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    I do not mind if someone stand in place or go back in development

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    After a Easter holiday off would be fitting to continue the construction -brain storm- thesis (although, some are terribly pesky of that) of the machinery of new technology development in technical and social economic issues.
    What this means new, it represents a modern, means more efficiently and very effectively to meet the needs of most desirable of all concerned without interfering with other needs and indeed it should be also inspiring and encouraging.
    There will be not good technology without proper social facilities, and vice versa, without the right technology, we will continue the troglodytes of the Stone Age. Lack of proper communication technology, telecommunications hampers effective policies to support the expansion and any technology, economic and social development.
    And in terms of technological progress, this was done, and done in the mutual dependence of the potential of human thinking and its tool-at the very beginning only his hands (as indeed it remains until today). We lack the better, more modern (as defined above) handy tools, which development were neglected - for investments in robotics and indeed in pro civic policy, using widely understood economic awareness in support of the development of civilization, technological, pro ecological..
    For a real explosion in technological advances we are lacking these efficient flexible, constantly developed manually hands, but not those of the Stone Age, but these automatic, automatic teams of robots on Earth and beyond.
    We are talking about a team of robots and -comfortably shortly describing- printers 3 D, of which the main – printer, the kernel of this new technology in our new artificially living cell, for further management, construction, modeling and subsequent duplicates not only in their development, supported and newer , more modern (moments ago I wrote a usable definition of modernity) autonomous and remote-controlled programs.
    Maybe that's not the moon but first the earth will force us to take firm response and decisive action of the new age technology.
    Do not worry, I never resign from my planning to take a two-week trip to Moon in about 10 years, but only in conditions of safety, comfort, economy and ecological affordability- after the right new age technology revolution.
    That planetary engineering , that take place first in our planet- mega investments automated complexes for shaping the climate and … tectonic !! ...that not even preached yet, constructions of mega ecological cities on deserts and oceans.
    The fight against diseases such as cancer, regeneration of the body, taking over its functions by the armies of micro robots. That can well help in the expansion of space, when our bodies were effectively better
    immunized by these micro-robots that will be created from ,many experience of development of robotics for the purposes of planetary engineering, aerospace.
    This “autohand” may to face arising in these mega automated productions, backed by improved programs and applications due to the better and better automation and vice versa.
    Here, of course, talking about the subjugation of the self-replicating but growing structures, constructions, teams of robots, micro-robots (the concepts of self-replicating robots was also proposed at the of planning planetary engineering on the planet Venus, but was considered very futurological there was no idea how this effectively begin). Here is proposing the cellular system by printers 3D and robots, remote controlled by passing to the constantly recurring programs.

    We try to figure out the essence of the accelerator self-perpetuating automatically mega investment in space - at least on the moon, or on ours ground, here in terms of mega-environmental investments. In further stages I specifically write about medical or ultra futuristic space engineering aspects of these investments.
    The essence of these investments is programmed repeatability as on a production line, with the difference that it is done by robots, in a suitably programmed system. The pre-programmed system can modulate, improve - programs and machines, robots, which directly perform programmed referrals task, productions, businesses, factories, production lines of machines, robots, automation, construction, and is on the moon, sea, desert, etc. .
    Such fully automatic (it is not a remote control, which any way quite simply can be converted into a fully programmed) over the investment has never been because I did not seen such a need.
    But now, unfortunately, it keeps up the opportunity, where not only can, but must, it is our duty for such investments start! And it immediately!
    As a full it would be foolish to send astronauts to the moon or Mars without a powerful support with additional automatic safety bases, stations, spacecrafts on these sites and beyond.
    So full of crime would be a failure of investment - selected in one of the numerous offers of “MADEINMOON” project - , where it is proposed to boot with the construction of automatic string manufacturing production line of solar panels, drones and equipment for distributing powdered sand on the upper layers of the atmosphere for a general cooling Earth's atmosphere ( the investments that would grow exponentially) in the desert of the Sahara, starting from states, that most willing and prepared to provide conditions for the mega project.
    Previously, international organizations, state foundations supported by citizens, businesses (ecological tax breaks) would prepare an action program and the mega investment for immediate action.
    I call, calls to the emergence of social, scientific, political, worldwide movements (my suggestions recently come to tens, hundreds of thousands of people in almost all countries of the world) to the pressure for immediate action to stabilize the climate. - Then we can seriously think further about further expansions spacecraft to the moon and beyond.
    Decisions as to materials, components and preparation of the first living cell accelerator of this mega ecological investment, should be under no delay, as if started World War III. In this case, perhaps even more dangerous - climatic disaster.

    So we already know, how this new age technology mechanism, which as at the time first car (after the Polish language car means auto !), first bulb had gone civilizations forward a little in this vale of Earth, that in this case gives a chance for transformation striking even the biggest dreamers and visionaries.
    These new age technology like a super virus with a super gene which is our whole wisdom and it strength infinitely quickly aggravated mutually growing replicating robotics mega, automation productions using 3 D-arranged programmed - partly remotely controlled, then only controlled by appropriate indications production according to wishes of interested - production lines, positively "infecting" our entire development plans at the macro level, such as engineering planetary climatic, tectonic, concerning mainly ( at start) our planet and at time all other objects in space, at micro level, such as increasing development towards micro robotics to fight cancer and other diseases, regeneration and improvement in human body infinitely .
    We need usual desire or courage to develop the programs, that first virtual flat, later in 3d to start the revolution. We have the intelligence and it capabilities, we need new hands, not only those billions living human also indeed useful hands, but these new automated trillions trillions trillions hands!, which will change face of our civilization from passive point in space until mega powerful factor infinitely positively influencing active new face of human development in infinite time and infinite space.
    O yes intensive cosmic investments give better chance for fresher (technological) look at problems of our planet and its effective solving
    Saying Yes we can we should find substitute Yes we can and we have to do it especially for the weakest. It does not have to be at once the best technology but the technology to achieve tangible chances for better troubleshooting
    Where to start the lunar revolution.
    First of all, it has to be not oppressed any task or mission, on which we toil in sweat of his brow, and in some stress. We have someone here to overthrow, change in strength systems. This revolution has to be flexible. The strength of complying with changes in information technology and manufacturing. Proposed autarkic economical and ecological at the same time (at the end but also pro economic) mega investing them in deserts, the oceans and outside the earth primarily on the moon.
    Earlier in form of virtual play games, games and competitions, simulation, educational programs will be- by first stage- the whole process of the peaceful revolution of technology affect positive changes in the relations of economic, social, political or religious. And thus I hinted that the universality of the peacekeeping investment marginalize the importance of traditional citizenship, traditional national boundaries, class divisions, divisions of wealth in the era of the mega production and indeed time mega race for protecting health of our and our loved ones health through investments not only in the direction of the macro but also micro-cosmic spaceship artificially cells and micro body spaceships , that replicating itself, improving us with their own materials (worn-out cells of the human body) and external quenched materials.

    To be continued - must follow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonnow View Post
    After a Easter holiday off would be fitting to continue the construction -brain storm- thesis (although, some are terribly pesky of that) of the machinery of new technology development in technical and social economic issues.

    What this means new, it represents a modern, means more efficiently and very effectively to meet the needs of most desirable of all concerned without interfering with other needs and indeed it should be also inspiring and encouraging.

    There will be not good technology without proper social facilities, and vice versa, without the right technology, we will continue the troglodytes of the Stone Age. Lack of proper communication technology, telecommunications hampers effective policies to support the expansion and any technology, economic and social development.

    And in terms of technological progress, this was done, and done in the mutual dependence of the potential of human thinking and its tool-at the very beginning only his hands (as indeed it remains until today). We lack the better, more modern (as defined above) handy tools, which development were neglected - for investments in robotics and indeed in pro civic policy, using widely understood economic awareness in support of the development of civilization, technological, pro ecological..

    For a real explosion in technological advances we are lacking these efficient flexible, constantly developed manually hands, but not those of the Stone Age, but these automatic, automatic teams of robots on Earth and beyond.

    We are talking about a team of robots and -comfortably shortly describing- printers 3 D, of which the main – printer, the kernel of this new technology in our new artificially living cell, for further management, construction, modeling and subsequent duplicates not only in their development, supported and newer , more modern (moments ago I wrote a usable definition of modernity) autonomous and remote-controlled programs.

    Maybe that's not the moon but first the earth will force us to take firm response and decisive action of the new age technology.
    Do not worry, I never resign from my planning to take a two-week trip to Moon in about 10 years, but only in conditions of safety, comfort, economy and ecological affordability- after the right new age technology revolution.

    That planetary engineering , that take place first in our planet- mega investments automated complexes for shaping the climate and … tectonic !! ...that not even preached yet, constructions of mega ecological cities on deserts and oceans.

    The fight against diseases such as cancer, regeneration of the body, taking over its functions by the armies of micro robots. That can well help in the expansion of space, when our bodies were effectively better immunized by these micro-robots that will be created from ,many experience of development of robotics for the purposes of planetary engineering, aerospace.

    This “autohand” may to face arising in these mega automated productions, backed by improved programs and applications due to the better and better automation and vice versa.

    Here, of course, talking about the subjugation of the self-replicating but growing structures, constructions, teams of robots, micro-robots (the concepts of self-replicating robots was also proposed at the of planning planetary engineering on the planet Venus, but was considered very futurological there was no idea how this effectively begin). Here is proposing the cellular system by printers 3D and robots, remote controlled by passing to the constantly recurring programs.

    We try to figure out the essence of the accelerator self-perpetuating automatically mega investment in space - at least on the moon, or on ours ground, here in terms of mega-environmental investments. In further stages I specifically write about medical or ultra futuristic space engineering aspects of these investments.

    The essence of these investments is programmed repeatability as on a production line, with the difference that it is done by robots, in a suitably programmed system. The pre-programmed system can modulate, improve - programs and machines, robots, which directly perform programmed referrals task, productions, businesses, factories, production lines of machines, robots, automation, construction, and is on the moon, sea, desert, etc. .

    Such fully automatic (it is not a remote control, which any way quite simply can be converted into a fully programmed) over the investment has never been because I did not seen such a need.
    But now, unfortunately, it keeps up the opportunity, where not only can, but must, it is our duty for such investments start! And it immediately!

    As a full it would be foolish to send astronauts to the moon or Mars without a powerful support with additional automatic safety bases, stations, spacecrafts on these sites and beyond.
    So full of crime would be a failure of investment - selected in one of the numerous offers of “MADEINMOON” project - , where it is proposed to boot with the construction of automatic string manufacturing production line of solar panels, drones and equipment for distributing powdered sand on the upper layers of the atmosphere for a general cooling Earth's atmosphere ( the investments that would grow exponentially) in the desert of the Sahara, starting from states, that most willing and prepared to provide conditions for the mega project.

    Previously, international organizations, state foundations supported by citizens, businesses (ecological tax breaks) would prepare an action program and the mega investment for immediate action.
    I call, calls to the emergence of social, scientific, political, worldwide movements (my suggestions recently come to tens, hundreds of thousands of people in almost all countries of the world) to the pressure for immediate action to stabilize the climate. - Then we can seriously think further about further expansions spacecraft to the moon and beyond.

    Decisions as to materials, components and preparation of the first living cell accelerator of this mega ecological investment, should be under no delay, as if started World War III. In this case, perhaps even more dangerous - climatic disaster.

    So we already know, how this new age technology mechanism, which as at the time first car (after the Polish language car means auto !), first bulb had gone civilizations forward a little in this vale of Earth, that in this case gives a chance for transformation striking even the biggest dreamers and visionaries.

    These new age technology like a super virus with a super gene which is our whole wisdom and it strength infinitely quickly aggravated mutually growing replicating robotics mega, automation productions using 3 D-arranged programmed - partly remotely controlled, then only controlled by appropriate indications production according to wishes of interested - production lines, positively "infecting" our entire development plans at the macro level, such as engineering planetary climatic, tectonic, concerning mainly ( at start) our planet and at time all other objects in space, at micro level, such as increasing development towards micro robotics to fight cancer and other diseases, regeneration and improvement in human body infinitely .

    We need usual desire or courage to develop the programs, that first virtual flat, later in 3d to start the revolution. We have the intelligence and it capabilities, we need new hands, not only those billions living human also indeed useful hands, but these new automated trillions trillions trillions hands!, which will change face of our civilization from passive point in space until mega powerful factor infinitely positively influencing active new face of human development in infinite time and infinite space.

    O yes intensive cosmic investments give better chance for fresher (technological) look at problems of our planet and its effective solving. Saying Yes we can we should find substitute Yes we can and we have to do it especially for the weakest. It does not have to be at once the best technology but the technology to achieve tangible chances for better troubleshooting

    Where to start the lunar revolution. First of all, it has to be not oppressed any task or mission, on which we toil in sweat of his brow, and in some stress. We have someone here to overthrow, change in strength systems. This revolution has to be flexible. The strength of complying with changes in information technology and manufacturing. Proposed autarkic economical and ecological at the same time (at the end but also pro economic) mega investing them in deserts, the oceans and outside the earth primarily on the moon.

    Earlier in form of virtual play games, games and competitions, simulation, educational programs will be- by first stage- the whole process of the peaceful revolution of technology affect positive changes in the relations of economic, social, political or religious. And thus I hinted that the universality of the peacekeeping investment marginalize the importance of traditional citizenship, traditional national boundaries, class divisions, divisions of wealth in the era of the mega production and indeed time mega race for protecting health of our and our loved ones health through investments not only in the direction of the macro but also micro-cosmic spaceship artificially cells and micro body spaceships , that replicating itself, improving us with their own materials (worn-out cells of the human body) and external quenched materials.

    To be continued - must follow
    Again, I have inserted paragraph breaks to make it easier to read. If you can manage without them, your eyes are better than mine.

    I am seeing the same verbose manifesto you have presented in previous posts. It is internally vague and repetitious, and is in what I would describe as "broken English". Simply repeating it ad nauseam is not going to get much public support for it.

    Early in this post you appeared to be characterizing your fellow citizens of Planet Earth as troglodytes of the Stone Age. That really rubs me the wrong way, as I have personally observed phenomenal technological advance in my lifetime, along with equally phenomenal technological advances on display from the prior century in the Smithsonian Institution museums in Washington.

    Any system of self-replicating and automatic robotic technology is only as good as the people who design and program it, and I can see significant potential hazards. One is an honest error in the design of HAL in the story "2001 A Space Odyssey", which caused the system to go nuts on its own. Another is the thought of the technology falling into the hands of a would-be despot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonnow View Post
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    Previously, international organizations, state foundations supported by citizens, businesses (ecological tax breaks) would prepare an action program and the mega investment for immediate action.
    I call, calls to the emergence of social, scientific, political, worldwide movements (my suggestions recently come to tens, hundreds of thousands of people in almost all countries of the world) to the pressure for immediate action to stabilize the climate. - Then we can seriously think further about further expansions spacecraft to the moon and beyond.

    ...

    And thus I hinted that the universality of the peacekeeping investment marginalize the importance of traditional citizenship, traditional national boundaries, class divisions, divisions of wealth in the era of the mega production
    Moonnow,

    Some of your statements (portions quoted above) are coming very close to our no politics limits. Advocating tax policy or political action or changes in national boundaries, is not within our very narrowly defined exceptions to our no-politics rule.

    And frankly, your entire thread comes off more as a political manifesto, rather than a discussion of science and technology.

    Please stick with technology, or the Moderation Team will need to take action.
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    What some may be bored by my economic and social digressions on topics related here to astronautics and astronomy, but unfortunately it is impossible to cut off those aspects of technology because we wouldn’t surely machine and cram like robots in this new era of technology. Precisely any of the revolutionary factors of this new era proposal, have immanent impact of each of us in its environmentally sustainable technological development socially and mentally.
    Obviously and logically I not fail to convey further technical details of proposals – no ancient way solutions. – We see stars, cancer but we cannot effectively gain it by ancient tools.
    I mentioned in the first posts on formation of urban space bases (in a certain period also on earth) in blink of an eye by help of gear speed of construction growth, which would start with the self driving up production of replicating robots, bases et cetera, on the moon using sources of raw materials and energy ( solar energy) ever faster.
    So for a large margin, to begin mass expansion space - billions, trillions space flights from the earth - we have to try about equally - mentioned earlier posts - mega ecological investments In deserts , oceans for lower the temperature above the earth.
    As already mentioned instruments and methods of cell formation of large production and mine centers, solar panels, companies of space bases in space, on the moon and beyond
    We continuing further look at this mechanism of driving of automatic investment on earth and beyond.
    Automatic plants are exist already , but partly remotely controlled - that is not fully automatic, means not fully dependent on the full programming of production, and if it is already the software, it is for short production lines for the production of parts, components for consumer purposes, not further direct investment in more efficient automation.
    This lack of investment in the automatic driving, is result of collective social economic habits. No one will has mood to invest for the sake of further investment. But this way of investments existed often in the socialist East Bloc countries, where investments actually went full steam including astronautics in the Soviet Union, which in relation to its economic strength, was much ahead compared to USA and other countries.
    That is why the moon is the lifeline for the efficient development of our civilization. Here there will be no but it pays off or not, it makes sense or not. Because the moon by only such investments, including the extraction of materials, use of solar energy as well as eg. nuclear, not abuse ecology, economics, or other systems of social or political, with consequences obviously positive here on earth through develop a more efficient robotics investments at the macro and micro scale.
    We may be tempted to the same drive automatic investments as I wrote in the field of ecological investments expansions here on earth….great self propelling expanding investment automated ecological construction mega polis in the oceans, seas, deserts and under the surface of them, plus energy used from the seas or the sun or the depths of the earth…
    We also in the experimental version can to try to start by smaller plants autoinvesting consisting of several 3D printers and a few vending machines and robots, small investment automated production, eg. in the directions of our interest such as micro submarines and drones with cameras, which can evolved to after continuing levels of developing auto productions, with increasingly better results of these productions for example for micro-medical robotics.
    Let us not forget that the proposed automatic investments are investments in the automatics hands of a new era – not from … ancient way of thinking and technology- to the feedback with contemporary by computer science will give enormous impetus ( not only by just in geometrical tempo of speed!!) to the development of our civilization in all directions!
    To be continued more about technology drafts of starting era of the self-replicate machines as ” new firsts grandchildren of Adam and Eva on …Moon ” – don’t worry about new machines!

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    Moonnow,

    I explained to you what you needed to do and you completely ignored that. You are obviously not here for a discussion, you are using CQ as your soapbox to spread your manifesto. This will stop.

    Do not bring up this topic again without permission of the Moderation Team. You are more than welcome to participate in all other aspects of this forum, but no more soliloquies.
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