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    Where are the seeds coming from?

    A week or so ago, I took my shoes out of the closet. The right shoe had a number of seeds in it, looked like sunflower seeds. I have brought no such seeds into my condo to my knowledge.
    A couple days later, I pulled out a box of colored pencils to do an adult coloring book. I keep the box in a cabinet under my television. Along with the pencils were some more of the seeds in the bottom of the box. They were not there when I put the box away.
    What the HECK is going on?

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    I would guess mice.

    Mice collect food items and store them away. They particularly like dark, quiet hidey-holes. Boxes in closets are prime location. This is particularly common in the winter, when they come indoors for warmth.

    I suspect they are getting the sunflower seeds from a near-by bird feeder (or bird food storage), then carting them off to your nice, safe condo.

    Have you noticed small, chewed out holes in these boxes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swift View Post
    I would guess mice. ...
    In that case, are you sure those are seeds?
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    Yeah, mice. (ETA: I actually was already thinking "mice?" when I clicked on the thread title to read the OP.)
    Bait a mouse trap with some of the seeds. Place next to shoes or under television. Make mental note of presence of potential injurious devices next to useful objects. Wait.

    You might also take a look in your larder or food cupboard, to check for holes chewed in cartons or packets. In a condo, mice are quite likely to be locally resident rather than intruders from outside, and they don't generally cache food a long way from their nests. If the seeds aren't coming from your food stock, they may well be coming from a neighbour's.

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    I go with the mice theory too. Peanut butter is a good bait for traps. Several years ago we had this stinky smell of death around the fridge/stove area in the kitchen. It took me a few days of searching but after taking the stove's control apart I found a mouse that had electrocuted itself by walking across bare control wires leading to the range burner elements. I would have rather found some seeds.

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    You could bait a trap and then maybe it works; maybe you forget where it is and trip it yourself.

    A cat will get rid of the mouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msollot View Post
    A cat will get rid of the mouse.
    But then you have a cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    But then you have a cat.

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    So, win-win.

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    Maybe the seeds are baby pod people. Sleep well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noisy Rhysling View Post
    So, win-win.
    Depends on the cat's point of view, to a large extent. Some cats don't fit into some lifestyles (or some apartments). Whereas mouse traps are pretty low maintenance.

    Just after they were married, my parents moved into a rented flat in an old tenement, which was infested with mice. My mother was afraid of mice. The people in the flats above and below their flat owned cats, so their flat was Mouse Central. Figuring they could never trap out the entire mouse population of a very large building, they bought a cat.
    The cat was scared of mice. My mother describes seeing a mouse, trying to jump onto a chair (uncharacteristically true to 1940s female stereotype), and finding the cat there ahead of her. She picked up the cat, lobbed it towards the mouse, and swears that the cat contrived to turn around in midair like a boomerang, landing on the chair again. (Fear may have caused a certain amount of perceptual distortion, here.)
    So now during the night, they were kept awake not only by the sound of mice in the walls, but by the sound of the cat panicking and knocking things over.

    They gave the cat to someone who lived in a house with no mice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noisy Rhysling View Post
    So, win-win.
    (I'm an admitted cat person)

    Our previous cat was a great mouser. The only mice we ever saw had already shuffled off the mortal coil. When she started getting very old and infirm, we started seeing an uptick, and a big uptick when she was gone.

    When we got our two new ones, the mouse problem suddenly disappeared. The only mouse problem I ever noticed was Ginger walking around with a dead one in her mouth, and Maki trailing her, looking like the cat equivalent of "dad said I could play with it now".
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    When my wife and I started dating, I had an apartment that was surrounded by open fields. We adopted a stray female cat. She had not been spayed so she attracted a few feral male suitors. One morning I opened the front door to find one sitting on the porch, a dead field mouse at his feet.

    I'm still not sure which one of us he was trying to impress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swift View Post
    (I'm an admitted cat person).
    You know, a strong course of broad spectrum antibiotics helps with that...

    Takes at least a year or two before it gets bad again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    When my wife and I started dating, I had an apartment that was surrounded by open fields. We adopted a stray female cat. She had not been spayed so she attracted a few feral male suitors. One morning I opened the front door to find one sitting on the porch, a dead field mouse at his feet.

    I'm still not sure which one of us he was trying to impress.
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    I recommend a great huge Siberian cat. The massive jowls and hideous teeth speak for themselves. They cause immediate terror among
    small rodents etc ... "Look at the bones !!! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    In that case, are you sure those are seeds?
    Could be mouse-eggs! I'm sorry. I'm trying to get the image of an adult coloring book out of my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slang View Post
    Could be mouse-eggs! I'm sorry. I'm trying to get the image of an adult coloring book out of my mind.
    Yeah. They're just colouring books, after all, no matter who's got the crayons. Unless, I suppose, it's a special box of flesh-coloured crayons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacedude View Post
    I go with the mice theory too. Peanut butter is a good bait for traps. Several years ago we had this stinky smell of death around the fridge/stove area in the kitchen. It took me a few days of searching but after taking the stove's control apart I found a mouse that had electrocuted itself by walking across bare control wires leading to the range burner elements. I would have rather found some seeds.
    At our previous address, We had a rat move into our garage. I bought an electric trap at the hardware store. I was skeptical, but after a day or two I noted a big tail sticking out of the trap. As the beast went for the bait, he indeed stepped on the charged part. After that, one just digs a grave and empties the trap. It's nice when something works as advertised.

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    Wow Don, y'all must have some bad rats down in Fla. First I've heard of an electrocution trap, now thaaat's a better mouse trap, aaah, Rat trap! Sounds a bit on the risky side, maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    But then you have a cat.

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    Then you can get a bear to swallow the cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens View Post
    Then you can get a bear to swallow the cat.
    By pleasing synchronicity, that's the theme of Tom Gauld's New Scientist cartoon strip this week. Robo-bees deployed to pollinate the flowers. Mecha-spiders deployed to control the robo-bees. Bionic weasels to control the mecha-spiders. CYBORG MONKEYS RIDING ANDROID ELEPHANTS to control the bionic weasels. (I think he's maybe unaware of the derivation of "android", but it's a good cartoon, anyway. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    By pleasing synchronicity, that's the theme of Tom Gauld's New Scientist cartoon strip this week. Robo-bees deployed to pollinate the flowers. Mecha-spiders deployed to control the robo-bees. Bionic weasels to control the mecha-spiders. CYBORG MONKEYS RIDING ANDROID ELEPHANTS to control the bionic weasels. (I think he's maybe unaware of the derivation of "android", but it's a good cartoon, anyway. )

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    Well, if you start getting peanuts in the house, you might have elephant. I'd rather deal with the mouse.
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    just leave a jar peanut butter out and see if the elephant leaves tracks in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    ANDROID ELEPHANTS . . . (I think he's maybe unaware of the derivation of "android", but it's a good cartoon, anyway. )
    Maybe he was thinking Ganesha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    By pleasing synchronicity, that's the theme of Tom Gauld's New Scientist cartoon strip this week. Robo-bees deployed to pollinate the flowers. Mecha-spiders deployed to control the robo-bees. Bionic weasels to control the mecha-spiders. CYBORG MONKEYS RIDING ANDROID ELEPHANTS to control the bionic weasels. (I think he's maybe unaware of the derivation of "android", but it's a good cartoon, anyway. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noclevername View Post
    "There was an old lady, who swallowed a fly..."
    I'm not sure I'd want that old lady near by. She could swallow large animals alive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampyankee View Post
    I'm not sure I'd want that old lady near by. She could swallow large animals alive!
    No worries, she's dead, of course.
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    If you plant those seeds would they grow shoe trees?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    No worries, she's dead, of course.
    Was swallowing the animals what killed her?
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