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    Starlite

    Is this a real thing, or is it bogus?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlite

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    The claim is real. If you read the wiki page you know as much as anyone else.

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    I think I vaguely recall this.

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    I seem to remember seeing this on on NBC

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    Is the description plausible?

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    I don't recall ever hearing of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mazanec View Post
    Is the description plausible?
    I guess if no one knows how it was made, nor the properties of it, nor that has samples of it, the working answer has to be "no". And no, it doesn't sound plausible that a material with that much organic content can stand such high temperatures.

    Under tests, Starlite was claimed to be able to withstand attack by a laser beam that could produce a temperature of 10,000 degrees Celsius.
    This sentence, is almost meaningless. "A laser that could produce a temperature of ...."

    What temperature some laser beam may or may not produce will be completely dependent upon what the laser is (frequency, energy density) and what the absorption/reflectivity of the material is. A piece of paper, whether it is black or white, will be a different temperature from the same laser beam. So, saying it "could" produce 10,000 C... well, if it is a highly polished surface, reflective at the frequency of the laser, it could produce a temperature of 10C (if the room is 9C).
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    Starlite is nothing.

    Once I witnessed one man saw another in half, move his two parts to opposite sides of the stage, and then restore him to wholeness.
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    [COLOR="#f9f9f9"]Testing... 1... 2... 3...[/COLOR]

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101001 View Post
    Starlite is nothing.

    Once I witnessed one man saw another in half, move his two parts to opposite sides of the stage, and then restore him to wholeness.
    Pictures or it didn't happen!

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    How different in numbers would it be from Aerogel? Combat-proven in the Stardust mission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slang View Post
    How different in numbers would it be from Aerogel? Combat-proven in the Stardust mission.
    I had thought they were one in the same material. I guess I was wrong. I don't know why I thought that, other than the description is pretty close.
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    This is the footage
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP62WMvrNhg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10C5oQiUU_U

    This stuff here looks like sawdust, cornstarch, maybe flour...?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htntNOiYcZU

    It's sacrificial. All we see is poor-mans PICA ablative.

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    If I remember, some of the early materials tested for manned spacecraft heat shields included phenolic-impregnated cork. These worked by pyrolysis of the material, i.e., its decomposition absorbing heat energy.

    Starlite is then kind of meh; been there, done that, moved on. A lot of very bright people simply don't do their homework, and that may well have been the case here.

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    I think Mir even had some wood in it.

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    Something like Starlite might wind up as pretty good armor though
    https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/0...nt-weight.html

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    One of the articles about it I read had a letter from someone who helped him test the material just 1 year before his death.... I CANNOT verify the authenticity of said letter but here it is. "Mr Ward came to my lab about a year before his death needing help to turn what was essentially a party trick into a useable & commercialy viable product. The problem he had was although the powder component did exactly as it said on the tin, he had found no way of applying a lasting coating. All he really has was some powder mixed with PVA glue, the problem being that although you could apply it to certain objects it's longevity was no more than 2 weeks. While testing we discovered that a sample he'd kept for almost 10 years could be destroyed in a matter of minutes under a methylacetylene-propadiene propane blowtorch. Unfortunately after many samples & tests we where unable to find a effective application method & we parted company on good terms. Sadly this is the true reason why Mr Ward was never able to sell or bring his incomplete product to market. But rest assured, as of this time I can say that there is at least 1 complete & superior product in testing, testing that so far is going remarkably well. So one day there will be a product on the market that will save life's while also having countless other uses. The inspiration behind this project.... Mr Maurice Ward "

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    I used to watch tomorrow's world and I think I remember the coverage. It's a sad case history of an inventor who killed his idea by refusing to let others in, too greedy perhaps.
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    I wonder if he worked on an oil rig. A recent Science Channel program featured the Perdido spar platform--and had a blurb on intumescent paint used of such rigs:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intumescent

    Not quite enough for spacecraft...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosp...entry#Ablative

    Looks like paint can do amazing things... https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/all-new...m-water-vapour
    Last edited by publiusr; 2017-Jun-16 at 08:03 PM.

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