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    What Happened At The New Mexico Solar Observatory?

    I've been reading this in the local papers from New Mexico, as I read local papers from all over the world, as opposed to the major news outlets, and I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else!


    https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news...inues/5069947/

    The FBI shut down an observatory, and didn't even let the local law enforcement in on what's happening!

    Anybody have a clue?
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    A ton of Woo Tinfoil alien talk about Conspiracy with Solar Observatory in Sunspot NM

    A lot of chatter on blogs, coast to coast am style websites, also some chat the notorious hacker anonymous website 4chan. You also have 'news' of sorts on this 'event' on Indian Asian astrology 'science' websites/blogs, newslocker dot com, an internet forum called abovetopsecret.com and Vice Media News a also a bunch of viral amateur conspiracy vids from youtube & facebook. Even some newspaper websites are starting to cover the strange theories as 'news' . Alien conspiracy theories swirl after FBI evacuates space observatory and refuses to say why https://www.msn.com , https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird...pot-new-mexico
    "We've got people up there (at Sunspot) that requested us to standby while they evacuate it, nobody would really elaborate on any of the circumstances as to why.
    Other posters suggest the site was hacked or taken over by Soviet communists or Russians?

    There is the usual planet X talk in these videos and a website called disclose dot tv talks about an invasion maybe a fleet of alien ships coming out of the Sun or armada of UFOs emerging out something near the Sun?


    Also chat about a vortex/worm hole and 'Nibiru is coming'
    "The FBI were up there. What their purpose was nobody will say."

    He also described the mysterious scene as the FBI swooped on the facility.
    https://www.coasttocoastam.com/artic...acy-theorists/

    also silly chat on all sorts of stuff including rumors of a chemical, bio or some kind of 'spill' and the usual CERN tied to Fermilab particle conspiracy theory

    hints of a conspiracy of a Doomsday Apocalypse Solar Storm ?

    '...individuals have even theorized that the observatory managed to discover aliens, presumably by accident, and that the FBI quickly descended'

    ' Many suspicious individuals have posited that the closure of the site is somehow connected to a solar storm set to strike the planet this week.'
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    A nearby Post Office is also shut down, which makes me think "suspicious package" destined for someone at the observatory. But the resolution to all the activity will likely be quite mundane.

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    Merged BD's thread from the Astronomy forum with this one.
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    A ton of Woo Tinfoil alien talk about Conspiracy with Solar Observatory in Sunspot NM

    Quote Originally Posted by schlaugh View Post
    A nearby Post Office is also shut down, which makes me think "suspicious package" destined for someone at the observatory. But the resolution to all the activity will likely be quite mundane.
    I was leaning toward it being a raid to collect evidence of financial malfeasance of some type.

    ETA: The evacuation has lasted several days, so that theory is probably wrong.



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    My educated guess is that it is a mundane earthly criminal incident of some sort, and of course the FBI will keep things hush-hush to avoid tipping off the suspect as much as possible. Those in the woowoo fringe must be grasping at straws.

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    This is what a local newspaper had online about it yesterday

    Sunspot Observatory was closed and evacuated Sept. 6 due to an undisclosed security risk. Officials aren't saying why it was closed and that's led to media coverage and plenty of speculation.

    Authorities remain tight-lipped.

    “Nothing’s changed from last week,” Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy, or AURA, spokeswoman Shari Lifson said by phone Thursday afternoon.

    Lifson offered no further information.
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    A point of procedure, if I may.

    I would have preferred if Launch Window's thread was folding into mine in Astronomy, as I don't see a conspiracy of any sort here at all, just a mystery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDon View Post
    A point of procedure, if I may.

    I would have preferred if Launch Window's thread was folding into mine in Astronomy, as I don't see a conspiracy of any sort here at all, just a mystery.
    A point of procedure back at you - it would have been much better if you had used the Report button, for example Reporting slang's post, rather than post this in this thread. It assumes that moderators read every thread and that is not a good assumption.

    But, to address your point: one thread was in Astronomy, one was in CT, and slang made a judgment call, trying to guess which way the discussion would turn. There are certainly CT aspects to this, just look at the link in Post 2 or google the incident. But if the thread turns sharply to Astronomy, we can move it again.
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    Either Chupacabra illegally crossing border 60 miles to south, or rats causing the observatory's foundation to sink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squink View Post
    Either Chupacabra illegally crossing border 60 miles to south, or rats causing the observatory's foundation to sink.
    Hey, Squink, chupacabras are no joke!

    Personally, I believe them to be a remnant population of vampiric therapods that survived the extinction event that took the rest.
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    The FBI is involved? If Scully & Mulder are on the case it probably has something to do with that anomalist streak that appeared to cross the solar disk last week.

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    Its interesting. I imagine it might have something with an employee there being involved in something nefarious, but well see.


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    News a few hours ago:

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/0...ar-observatory

    no news, in other words
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    Its been reported that it will reopen this week, and that an employee was involved in criminal activity, though no news yet on what it was.


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    Sorry, maybe not an employee, perhaps a nearby resident?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens View Post
    Sorry, maybe not an employee, perhaps a nearby resident?


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    Perhaps, an alien?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superluminal View Post
    Perhaps, an alien?
    Then it would be ICE, not FBI.


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    Aura News
    http://aura-astronomy.org/news/news.asp?newsID=389
    AURA Statement about the Status of the Sunspot Solar Observatory at Sacramento Peak, New Mexico

    September 16, 2018


    Sunspot Solar Observatory is transitioning back to regular operations as of September 17th

    On September 6th, the Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA) and the National Science Foundation (NSF) made the decision to temporarily vacate the Sunspot Solar Observatory at Sacramento Peak, New Mexico as a precautionary measure while addressing a security issue. The facility closed down in an orderly fashion and is now re-opening. The residents that vacated their homes will be returning to the site, and all employees will return to work this week.
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    https://www.npr.org/2018/09/17/64880...mexico-reopens

    Observatory is open again, law enforcement isn't talking, investigation of "criminal activity" ongoing. Maybe someone was cooking meth in the telescope? Who knows. Twiddle our thumbs and wait.
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    Would you believe It was the janitor and child pornography?

    https://www.abqjournal.com/1222935/s...stigation.html


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    Though not specifically discussed in this thread, a lot of YouTube videos and conspiracy blogs tried to link the retrograde double eclipse witnessed by the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) on the 9th/10th of September to this incident as the "real" reason for the closure. In reality that eclipse was only visible from SDO due to its orbit, it was not visible from the surface of the earth. In an effort to combat that woo I wrote a Python program to automatically annotate SDO images based on its orbit and the relative positions of the sun, earth and moon. No surprise here, the program's prediction perfectly matched the observed double eclipse. I've now deployed this program as a bot which will automatically upload both annotated time lapse videos of the last ~48 hours of images (it does this daily to provide overlap in case it needs a reset) as well as prediction videos of future eclipses caused by the moon or earth a week before they occur. I generated some videos on the prediction playlist already by setting my computer clock to the relevant dates to test it, including the double eclipse from earlier this month. In the future if you ever see any woo about a new eclipse on SDO, you can cite this channel where there will be a prediction video showing that exact eclipse published about a week before it happened, as well as annotation of the eclipse itself verifying the prediction after it happens.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVKG1ZiirI0

    If anyone tries to claim the software itself is a conspiracy, I also published the source code to github.
    https://github.com/AstronomyLiveYt/SDO-Annotation

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    https://www.space.com/41888-new-mexi...stigation.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger E. Moore View Post
    https://www.space.com/41888-new-mexi...stigation.html

    It is sooooooooo important to hire good help.
    Wow. That would have been the last thing I expected.

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    The residents that vacated their homes will be returning to the site,
    An evacuation for a janitor & porn? Seems a bit extreme.

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    He apparently was making noises about hurting someone. That would be the big red flag.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacedude View Post
    An evacuation for a janitor & porn? Seems a bit extreme.
    From the CBS News story on it

    According to KRQE, the observatory director said that once the janitor realized his computer was no longer there, he started "feverishly started looking through the facility." The director said the janitor also started making comments about "lax security at the facility," said it was "only a matter of time before the facility got hit, and he "believed there was a serial killer in the area" and that killer might enter the facility and execute someone.

    The director said that's when he became concerned for his personal safety, and along with the agencies that operate the facility decided to evaluate it and shut it down.
    I read elsewhere that the facility is very remote and not quickly reached by law enforcement. I think the combination of that with the janitor's behavior and comments prompted the precautions.
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    Having worked in mental health off and on since 1977, yes, I can totally believe this.
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    A ton of Woo Tinfoil alien talk about Conspiracy with Solar Observatory in Sunspot NM

    Quote Originally Posted by schlaugh View Post
    He apparently was making noises about hurting someone. That would be the big red flag.


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    The Albuquerque Journal article I posted up-thread says he was making claims of a serial killer in the area.

    After his alleged behavior when the laptop disappeared, it would make me a little nervous.


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