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Lord Jubjub
2010-Feb-01, 01:08 AM
Just finished watching ID4 on a cable channel and it occurred to me that if a president actually flew such a mission, he would be the first sitting president to receive the Medal of Honor (maybe).

Then I thought, who else would receive the highest honor the U.S. could give. This is my initial thoughts:

President Whitmore (Bill Pullman)
Russell Casse (Richard Quaid)
Captain Hiller (Will Smith)

Would Levinson (Jeff Goldblum) receive the Congressional Gold Medal or a Medal of Honor? He was flying on a military mission, but was not military personnel.

swampyankee
2010-Feb-01, 01:50 AM
To get a Medal of Honor one must be in the US military, so no sitting US president could get one (they could, however, have gotten one in the past). Nor could Jeff Goldblum's character.

Ilya
2010-Feb-01, 03:57 PM
Or Russell Case either, even posthumously (unless he was restored to active duty status before getting into plane).

hhEb09'1
2010-Feb-01, 04:05 PM
To get a Medal of Honor one must be in the US military, so no sitting US president could get one (they could, however, have gotten one in the past). Which beggars the question, why isn't the commander in chief in the military? :)

Tog
2010-Feb-01, 04:31 PM
The Presidential Medal of Freedom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom) is the highest award available to non-military persons. You don't even have to be a citizen of the US.

Larry Jacks
2010-Feb-01, 07:03 PM
Which beggars the question, why isn't the commander in chief in the military?

Because in the US, we highly value the concept of civilian leadership and control over the military. This tradition dates back to the country's founding. The president is a civilian whose job is the commander in chief of the armed forces as well as head of the executive branch of government.

vonmazur
2010-Feb-01, 10:15 PM
Ectually; The POTUS is the CiC and like Reagan the fictional Pres was a Miltitary Veteran....A case could be made for the CMH in this case, in fact the reason that JFK's Body was taken from the Medical Examiner in Dallas was just that, as CiC, the President was under Federal Jusridiction, specifically the U S Military..

Dale

Larry Jacks
2010-Feb-02, 07:26 PM
Reagan was a military veteran under the definition from the VA but not a combat veteran. He wasn't exactly a fictional president, either.

CJSF
2010-Feb-02, 07:34 PM
Dale was saying that the fictional president in ID4, like Reagan, was a veteran.

CJSF

PetersCreek
2010-Feb-02, 08:03 PM
Here is the relevant section of Title 10, as it applies to the Air Force:




From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
[www.gpoaccess.gov]
[Laws in effect as of January 3, 2007]
[CITE: 10USC8741]

[Page 1928-1929]

Subtitle D--Air Force

PART II--PERSONNEL

CHAPTER 857--DECORATIONS AND AWARDS


Sec. 8741. Medal of honor: award

The President may award, and present in the name of Congress, a
medal of honor of appropriate design, with ribbons and appurtenances, to
a person who, while a member of the Air Force, distinguishes himself
conspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above
and beyond the call of duty--
(1) while engaged in an action against an enemy of the United
States;
(2) while engaged in military operations involving conflict with
an opposing foreign force; or
(3) while serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an
armed conflict against an oppos

[[Page 1929]]

ing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent
party.

(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 540; Pub. L. 88-77, Sec. 3(1), July
25, 1963, 77 Stat. 94.)