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Grand_Lunar
2004-Mar-02, 06:15 PM
These might have been addressed before, but I don't have time to look them up on the forums. Anyway, these deal with Star Trek 4 and First Contact.
In First Contact, after the Phoniex reaches orbit and seperates from the first stage, it keeps going up. Unless they activated impulse drive or something, they wouldn't have the momentum to keep in orbit for long, not to mention LEAVING orbit!
In ST:4, the bird-of-prey warps out of the atmosphere. I'm sure even with "aerodynamic shields" of some kind, that that would make a fairly loud sonic boom! Just a boom from an F-14 going 800 mph is considerable (belive me, I experinced it first hand.)
And here's a miscellanous bit. The ship seen in Alameda isn't the real Enterprise. That's the USS Ranger, an Independence class carrier now decommisioned. The real USS Enterprise has a distinct island design (that's the tall thing on the flight deck.) The Enterprise's island is more or less cube shaped, with a smaller "neck" attaching it to the flight deck. Belive me, I know. I work there!
And their you have it!
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jamestox
2004-Mar-02, 07:47 PM
Yes, that was the Ranger in ST4...

However, the USS Enterprise (CVAN-65, later CVN-65) lost its distinctive block-style island in the early 1980's for the more conventional island used in the Kitty Hawk class - during the 1979-1982 refit.

See:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/cvn-65.htm

The "before":
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/026519.jpg

The "after":
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/026527.jpg

(you may have to cut and paste the above url's in your address window to get there...)

JT (former USN, ATKRON -87)

Grand_Lunar
2004-Mar-02, 07:54 PM
The didn't really loose the design. It lost the "beehive" dome on top and the billboard radars (the ancestors of the radars on Aegies ships). The island also had a lot of additions to it, a bunch of little radars. But the general shape sort of a cube, even if not a perfect one as before.
Its not a rectangle like the Kitty Hawk or Nimitz classes. Trust me, I'm one of the crew, been here 2 years. ;)