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roidspop
2002-Apr-14, 02:26 AM
I have a correspondent who directs me to some very odd sites, the latest being http://www.metaresearch.org by a fellow named Tom Flandern, apparently an astronomer and a very loud proponent of the Face on Mars.

I read his article about the speed of gravity, and it seemed sound, but I wouldn't be able to sort out the chaff in something that technical. But then he comes on with all this stuff about the FOM, glass tubes, cities and so forth.

I gather he's made this into a career with books, television appearances and speaking engagements. What is with this guy? Any good debunkings heaped upon his head here or elsewhere?

DStahl
2002-Apr-14, 03:35 AM
Actually, buried on the "Flat Earth Theory...need I say more?" thread is a long and (ahem!) quite good discussion of his superluminal gravitation theory. It really heats up on page 3 of the thread.

I have to do a quick plug here: I've learned a great deal in researching material for that discussion, so regardless of whether Van Flandern is right or wrong it has sure benefitted me personally. And, for the BA's info, that's one of the most important functions of science forums for me, and one reason I write a lot--for a full-time working chap with a family and no time to take college courses just for fun, this fills the function of an online Q&A seminar.

--Don Stahl

2002-Apr-14, 08:38 AM
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On 2002-04-13 23:35, DStahl wrote: To: http://www.dailyemerald.com
Looking up http://www.metaresearch.org
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http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/asteroids/near/NEARC
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http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/asteroids/near/NEARChallengeUpdate151298.asp

lpetrich
2002-Apr-15, 10:15 PM
Tom van Flandern is dead wrong about the speed of gravity. General relativity clearly states that gravity disturbances travel at the speed of light in a vacuum. This is because that speed is built into the geometry of space-time.

Wiley
2002-Apr-15, 10:23 PM
On 2002-04-15 18:15, lpetrich wrote:
Tom van Flandern is dead wrong about the speed of gravity. General relativity clearly states that gravity disturbances travel at the speed of light in a vacuum. This is because that speed is built into the geometry of space-time.



You're preachin' to the choir, here. As DStahl pointed out, there's a thread where this is discussed more fully: "Flat Earth Society ..." The obvious place to look for this discussion. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif