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Larry Jacks
2010-Mar-22, 08:01 PM
I wonder how much this study costs: Women do make men throw caution to the wind, research confirms (http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-03/sp-wdm031810.php)

When skateboarders attempt tricks, they make a split-second decision about whether to abort the trick or try to land it, based on a mid-air evaluation of the likelihood of success and on the physical costs that failure might bring. It was that moment the researchers sought to examine because it resembles the type of risky decisions that young men make when behind the steering wheel of a car or when in physical confrontations with each other.

Consistent with predictions, the young men took greater risks in the presence of the attractive female even when they knew there was a greater chance that they would crash. Testosterone levels were significantly higher in these men than in the men who were in the presence of another male.

"This experiment provides evidence for an effect that has existed in art, mythology, and literature for thousands of years: Beautiful women lead men to throw caution to the wind," write authors Richard Ronay and William von Hippel. "These findings suggest that, for men, the adaptive benefits gained by enticing mates and intimidating rivals may have resulted in evolved hormonal and neurological mechanisms that facilitated greater risk taking in the presence of attractive women."

It must have been conducted by the Department of Duh. Small head thinking wins again. It's the reason why "Hey everybody, watch this!" are some of the most common last words ever said by young men.

BigDon
2010-Mar-22, 08:15 PM
They proved this with guppies back in the seventies.

This wouldn't happen if the females didn't play their own part in the big dance o' life.

The Backroad Astronomer
2010-Mar-22, 08:18 PM
There was a song a couple of years ago that sums it up nicely, Because chicks dig it.

Swift
2010-Mar-22, 08:48 PM
They proved this with guppies back in the seventies.
I'm sorry, I find that hard to believe. I might throw caution to the wind for a human female, but I wouldn't for a guppy (even a very pretty female guppy). But maybe, that's just me.

:whistle:

korjik
2010-Mar-22, 10:08 PM
I'm sorry, I find that hard to believe. I might throw caution to the wind for a human female, but I wouldn't for a guppy (even a very pretty female guppy). But maybe, that's just me.

:whistle:

I dont get it. I thought he meant that skateboarding guppies would take more risk when there was a human female nearby.

:D

tdvance
2010-Mar-22, 10:10 PM
Simpson's proved this years ago: stuntman in hospital tells Bart that chicks dig scars, so Bart decides to jump Springfield Gorge.

mike alexander
2010-Mar-22, 10:12 PM
Chicks are cute, but I prefer more mature hens.

rommel543
2010-Mar-23, 02:23 PM
http://sites.google.com/a/woodfield.ca/storeage/_/rsrc/1269354136024/Home/imagestorage/gonzo.gif

Yaa but did you get a look at the legs on her.....

Dgennero
2010-Mar-24, 05:54 PM
Evolutionary vestiges. Goes for high risk behavior in mating rituals as well as the fight-and-flight impulse in modern situations (as in a traffic jam) where neither is advisable. Road rage and showing off in front of possible mating candidates have a lot in common.

BigDon
2010-Mar-24, 10:00 PM
Evolutionary vestiges. Goes for high risk behavior in mating rituals as well as the fight-and-flight impulse in modern situations (as in a traffic jam) where neither is advisable. Road rage and showing off in front of possible mating candidates have a lot in common.

Evolution still uses that a lot, in a huge variety of vertibrates. How is that a vestige? Humans are different from other vertibrates how, when they are demonstratedly not? (Except a fat brain and spindle cells)

With guppies, researchers used a set of partitioned aquariums with onlooking females and a Belonesox belizanus* as a threat. The females not only remembered the males who danced their finny little backsides in front of the topminnow and "lived", they were more than a third more likely to be allowed to mate than males not observed doing that. Significant boost to gene selection.

That's why cleaning a tank full of guppys can be annoying. You and your cleaning gear become "the topminnow" and the males start to take turns bouncing off your arm or trying to get as close as they can to the siphon.

Tarpon have been observed doing this with bullsharks in Florida.

Do not forget that ALL tetrapods are hyper-evolved fish. From the komodo dragon to the thompson's gazelle to the golden eagle.

Fish, every one. That pretty much just leaves the molluscs, the annelids and the dinocarids as the rest of animalia big enough to see with the naked eye.

Fish, snails, worms and bugs. Iterate that 400 million spins around the Sun and look what you get.

Internet porn.

Oh well, maybe next time. 14 billion years down, and at least 2,986 billion years left, before physics gets "funny" and not the ha ha kind.




*I always wante to get permission to try and breed these things for size and color. (resticted in California)They're just big guppies without any color breeding. Could you imagine six to eight inch guppies?

mike alexander
2010-Mar-24, 10:13 PM
Could you imagine six to eight inch guppies?

I think they'd be a lot like smelt.

Wonder how they would taste?

mugaliens
2010-Mar-25, 11:53 AM
Yaa but did you get a look at the legs on her.....

Apparently, Gonzo did.

Noclevername
2010-Mar-25, 01:45 PM
"New study confirms, tests of the obvious tick everyone off as wastes of time and money."

Ivan Viehoff
2010-Mar-26, 11:48 AM
Obvious things still need scientific demonstration. There are plenty of things that are obvious but false on closer examination.

I think it was good science to develop an experiment to demonstrate that this is actually a behavioural attribute demonstrable in humams. I was impressed by it.

DonM435
2010-Mar-26, 04:48 PM
As Mark Twain supposedly said, it's the things we know that aren't so that get us in trouble.

mugaliens
2010-Mar-28, 06:50 AM
There are plenty of things that are obvious but false on closer examination.

Just as there are plenty of truthful things which appear false based on spurious examination and jumping to conclusions.