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Barraged
2004-Mar-18, 02:25 AM
Wow, these were pics from last year...stretching it a bit aren't they???? 8-[


http://homepage.eircom.net/~gulufuture/future/neat_flyby1.htm

Manchurian Taikonaut
2004-Mar-18, 02:36 AM
I don't know, those comments below the article were insane,

"I've emailed SOHO admin"
"Are they all liars" ,
I think it may be inside the Sun? "keep the truth from the public is pure EVIL!! I looked in the sun´s direction today and was dazzled"

well, I haven't been reading about any rock or comet that going to hit us, has anyone else heard anything or seen anything?

Toutatis
2004-Mar-18, 02:48 AM
From the article’s sidebar:


In Twin Cities tonight, about 6:00 p.m., I saw our comet! To say it is big is putting it mildly. To the west and north a bit, you couldn’t miss it low on the horizon

Interesting! http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif If by 'Twin Cities' the writer refers to Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN then I must require the services of an ophthalmologist and an audiologist -- Inasmuch as I reside ~ 30 miles from said metropolis and neither saw nor heard tell of anything of the sort... But then maybe I need to get out more... ;-)

Seriously, prior to my participation on these fora (and their ilk) I had *NO* idea the sky was so frightening to so many folks?!?! --- Well… I suppose the demise of the USSR left the doomsayers at a loose end??? ;-)

Best Regards
Dan Sarandon

ToSeek
2004-Mar-18, 02:48 AM
There's just no gratitude, you know - all the work the SOHO team goes through day after day to make their data available in near-real-time, and they still get accused of participating in a cover-up!

frogesque
2004-Mar-18, 02:50 AM
I had my hopes up when I read about the CME but http://spaceweather.com/ has a low forcast for arora for the next few days :(

Stick to reading the Sunday Sport in the locker room guys, I don't buy their or your garbage.

Barraged
2004-Mar-18, 03:08 AM
wasnt the neat comet last year or something to that effect anyway?

It amazes me that this is still out there!!

Toutatis
2004-Mar-18, 04:21 AM
NEAT is an acronym for Near Earth Asteroid Tracking --- A service of NASA's JPL...

NEAT have discovered many comets --- Hence any reference to 'Comet NEAT' is ambiguous sans further designative info...

BTW -- Please don't worry about the article - I assure you it’s pure ** start to finish!!! -- And, I might add, a great discourtesy to the SOHO team!

Sincerely
Dan Sarandon

tracer
2004-Mar-18, 07:14 AM
There's just no gratitude, you know - all the work the SOHO team goes through day after day to make their data available in near-real-time, and they still get accused of participating in a cover-up!
Yeah! And you never read about their heroic efforts in the news, either. They're always living in the shadow of the team that planted the gigantic human face on Mars.

jami cat
2004-Mar-18, 02:00 PM
I dont see what they are talking about...
:roll: http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2003_02_12/
Heres another...
#-o http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/

calliarcale
2004-Mar-18, 02:39 PM
Interesting! http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif If by 'Twin Cities' the writer refers to Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN then I must require the services of an ophthalmologist and an audiologist -- Inasmuch as I reside ~ 30 miles from said metropolis and neither saw nor heard tell of anything of the sort... But then maybe I need to get out more... ;-)

Hey, groovy! We're practically neighbors. ;) I live in Bloomington.

I must also require the services of an optometrist. (Okay, I regularily do; I'm very nearsighted, but correctable to 20/15.) I haven't seen a thing. I did visit an audiologist recently for unrelated concerns, and was told that I have excellent hearing. Hmmm.... Maybe the website is wrong or invented the quote? Naaaaah!

Seriously, the article does appear to have invented things out of whole cloth, so I find the quote a little suspicious even without considering the fact that I'm an amateur stargazer in the Twin Cities who saw nothing of the kind.

tofu
2004-Mar-18, 03:09 PM
Heres another...
#-o http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
I hope this isn't an ignorant question. Why does the path of the comet appear to be a straight line? I know it has to be an ellipse so this must be a perspective issue. But I can't figure out how you can arrange Earth, Sun, and an orbital path so that the path looks like a straight line without having the path go between or behind the Sun.

jami cat
2004-Mar-18, 04:25 PM
Heres another...
#-o http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
I hope this isn't an ignorant question. Why does the path of the comet appear to be a straight line? I know it has to be an ellipse so this must be a perspective issue. But I can't figure out how you can arrange Earth, Sun, and an orbital path so that the path looks like a straight line without having the path go between or behind the Sun.

I would only suspect that its because of the large orbital path, and your only seeing a small arc of it.

Or, it's just easier to make a straight line in photoshop :-?

Musashi
2004-Mar-18, 04:27 PM
It's probably not orbiting in the same plane we are. I don't think I am good enough with words to describe the situation, but later, if it hasn't been covered, I can draw some pictures.

Kaptain K
2004-Mar-18, 04:31 PM
Heres another...
#-o http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
I hope this isn't an ignorant question. Why does the path of the comet appear to be a straight line? I know it has to be an ellipse so this must be a perspective issue. But I can't figure out how you can arrange Earth, Sun, and an orbital path so that the path looks like a straight line without having the path go between or behind the Sun.
1) It appears to be a straight line. A small section of an ellipse will approximate a straight line.
2) The comet very probably is either in front of or behind the Sun. Notice that the CME had no effect on the comet, therefore, although they appear to be very close, this is a perspective effect of 2D projection of a 3D event.

Barraged
2004-Mar-18, 04:42 PM
I am fairly certain the photos they are showing were from a comet that was around this area back in like May or June or last year when one of large solar flares hit, but I am not sure.

I dunno,l either way, looks like crap to me.

Kaptain K
2004-Mar-18, 04:54 PM
Hey, groovy! We're practically neighbors.
and my stepfamily lives between you in Stillwater. Small world, huh?

sts60
2004-Mar-18, 08:54 PM
I noticed this guy claimed Feb 2003's weather shutdown was some sort of conspiracy. The late, unlamented Chaiyah banged that drum too.

This was thoroughly debunked by people like nebularain and myself who actually live in the GSFC area. Yes, the weather emergency was real. The Governor ordered non-essential traffic off the roads, subject to a $1000 fine.

Just one example of the kind of flimsy conspirabull promoted on that site.

tracer
2004-Mar-18, 09:18 PM
There's just no gratitude, you know - all the work the SOHO team goes through day after day to make their data available in near-real-time, and they still get accused of participating in a cover-up!
Yeah! And you never read about their heroic efforts in the news, either. They're always living in the shadow of the team that planted the gigantic human face on Mars.
Woops! Um ... I accidentally misread ToSeek's post as saying:

"There's just no gratitude, you know - all the work the SOHO team goes through day after day to make falsified data showing UFOs hovering around the sun available in near-real-time, and they still get accused of participating in a cover-up!" ;)

I think I'd better swear off the Giggle Juice for the next eon or so....

Toutatis
2004-Mar-19, 07:52 AM
Re: the 'Comets NEAT' referenced on this thread:

C/2002 V1 - Has an orbital period of ~ 34,000 years, is presently at a (solar) distance of ~ 5.8 AUs and OUTBOUND.

C/2002 X5 - Has an orbital period of ~ 45,000 years, is presently at a (solar) distance of ~ 6 AUs and OUTBOUND.

Hence any untoward effects (Re: Earth) produced upon either of said bodies by CME(s) or other solar 'interference' (while at perihelion) will not be manifest for at least ~ 340 centuries.

So… To anyone really worried about this - I'll have your brand of vitamins!!! ;-)

//////

BTW Calliarcale??? --- I reside in that burgh having the (dubious?) distinction of being "The summer home of the KC Chiefs" --- But alas! Not being a sports fan - said 'distinction' is lost on me – however I daresay it conveys my locale??? http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Very best regards
D. Sarandon