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p9107
2002-Apr-18, 07:24 AM
All this talk of the BIG BANG, has made me wonder, maybe the universe has always been like this. i researched it and found out that it was called the Steady state theory. has anyone heard of it?

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GrapesOfWrath
2002-Apr-18, 11:06 AM
Sir Fred Hoyle's baby (http://www.schoolsobservatory.org.uk/study/sci/cosmo/internal/steady.htm)?

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p9107
2002-Apr-18, 11:25 AM
Sorry, dead link. I tried searching for Fred, but it came up with things about flint...? Can you tell me the name of the site.

GrapesOfWrath
2002-Apr-18, 11:55 AM
LOL! I fixed the link, sorry about that.

I searched google for +"Fred Hoyle"+"steady state" and came up with that site. There are lots of others.

Argos
2002-Apr-18, 11:57 AM
I'd love if it was true. The everyday changings make me nervous.../phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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John Kierein
2002-Apr-18, 12:50 PM
I like the static universe better than the steady state. At least in the static universe we conserve energy and mass and don't have to have mass created from nothing.
http://www.angelfire.com/az/BIGBANGisWRONG/index.html

p9107
2002-Apr-18, 02:25 PM
Does anyone know how he did this:
http://www.badastronomy.com/pix/suit3.jpg

ToSeek
2002-Apr-18, 02:53 PM
On 2002-04-18 10:25, p9107 wrote:
Does anyone know how he did this:
http://www.badastronomy.com/pix/suit3.jpg


He mentions somewhere that it's a stand-up image with the head cut out so you can stand inside it - think it's at the Kennedy Space Center.

ToSeek
2002-Apr-18, 02:54 PM
On 2002-04-18 03:24, p9107 wrote:
All this talk of the BIG BANG, has made me wonder, maybe the universe has always been like this. i researched it and found out that it was called the Steady state theory. has anyone heard of it?


When I first started getting interested in astronomy (in the 60s), the books still gave equal billing to the Big Bang and the Steady State. With the discovery of the cosmic background radiation and other findings, though, there are very few astronomers still supporting the Steady State - and most Steady State models still being considered look ever more like the Big Bang.

Pi Man
2002-May-11, 01:21 AM
The steady state theory also requires that matter and/or energy is continually being added to the universe(or so I last heard). This breaks the conservation of matter and energy, but the theory is still around. "Why?", you might ask. Because if you do the math, it turns out that it only requires a few particles per cubic light year per several thousand years to "pop up" out of nowhere. No instruments are precise enough to measure that.