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Fazor
2010-Jul-21, 01:49 AM
Inspired by the fact that I'm stuck here with 'Make it or Break it' on tv. In fairness, Tara was going to spare me but I said it was fine since I was on the laptop anyway.

We have a lot of threads about things we like to read, or movies and television we enjoy watching. But me? I like to complain, dag'nabbit! So what about television shows we absolutely cannot stand. I don't just mean bad -- many of us already think the *majority* of television is bad. I want to know what everyone thinks is the cream of the crap. The sultans of stink. The Brittany Spearses of the tube.

I have three that Tara watches that I absolutely hate. The aformentioned 'Make it or Break it' is one. Like the title, it's contrived. It's poorly written and even more poorly acted. And worst of all, it's a high-school girl drama!

Yet this is the least offending of the three. The other two are probably a tie. She watches 'Toddlers in Tiaras' which litterally enrages me at how most of those parents are completely screwing up their kids. She thinks these little three and four year olds throwing "Diva tantrums!" is funny; it's like she doesn't understand that these are the exact kids that end up being the self-important, obnoxious, entitled wastes that plague our youth. She says "Yeah, but their not my kids" -- she doesn't seem to make the connection that we still end up having to deal with them every day. Argh!!! And the parents! I can't even talk about them without getting myself banned here . . .

The second is 'Ghost Whisperer', which thankfully has been on hiatus for a while. Bad acting. Repeatative plots. Bad acting. Shallowness of character. Bad acting. Repeatativeness. Bad acting. It's repeatative. And the acting is bad. I hope I got my point across! UGH!

Okay, I feel a little better now. And likely there's someone out here that likes one or more of these shows. Don't worry; I won't hold it against you! (Or I secretly will, but really, what does *my* opinion matter?)

So what shows do you all hate?

LaurelHS
2010-Jul-21, 02:44 AM
Ghost Whisperer isn't on hiatus, it's cancelled. I hope this news doesn't upset you...

danscope
2010-Jul-21, 02:59 AM
Some stuff on television is simply poisonous. Do we really need csi ...(you fill in the city ) and soap opera ?
Oh welcome, welcome Public Television .
Frankly , I can enjoy a good book, and often listen to Pandora ...which I can program myself and screen that which I dislike. Maybe we should do that with television . :)

Dan

Solfe
2010-Jul-21, 03:08 AM
I stopped watching Caprica and Stargate Universe. They both had the potential to be good, but didn't get there fast enough for me. Neither was horrible, just not good enough to keep me coming back.

I watched some of Dual Survival in the hopes it would have ended like the Donner Party. No luck; I will never get those 15 minutes back. :)

My wife forces me to facebook while she watches Dr. G, Medical Examiner. Dr. G autopsies blur, someone has to do it I guess.

Solfe

Fazor
2010-Jul-21, 03:19 AM
Ghost Whisperer isn't on hiatus, it's cancelled. I hope this news doesn't upset you...
You've just made my year. Thank you.

Swift
2010-Jul-21, 04:07 AM
She watches 'Toddlers in Tiaras' which litterally enrages me at how most of those parents are completely screwing up their kids.
The only time I've seen any of it is from bits on The Soup, but even those bits are beyond creepy. Its like watching child molestation in action.

I can't abide any of the the "Real Housewives" shows, though my wife likes to watch them sometimes. "Get a life" doesn't even come close to what any of those women need.

Atraveller
2010-Jul-21, 05:20 AM
So what shows do you all hate?

Aside from virtually any fiction (shallow, repetative plots have already been mentioned, but any show where some one is murdered is going to be derivative...) the worst crap on the tube has to be the "Reality" shows - suvivor, idol, dancing, apprentice, and the big one here in OZ is masterchef - could there possibly something more mindless than a reality survivor style cooking show?

You!! Off My Island!!!

:lol:

Spoons
2010-Jul-21, 05:54 AM
Aw haw haw haw - island, like in the kitchen. I get it!

Yeah, I avoid all that reality stuff. And the tv shows.

The annoying housemate loves all those reality shows, like the Tori Spelling one (wow, rich girl has rough day, has to buy new earrings for the babyshower - interesting!), Jersey Shore, or is it Jersey Boys? (hairy guys ham up their ethnicity - jeez, that's so interesting. Wait, no, I mean tedious), Friends and Will & Grace (lobotimized studio audiences rock! those two get bonus points because they're repeated endlessely and no matter how many times the episodes air they MUST be watched every time - more of a beef with the housemate, I guess).

There are too many to rattle off actually. That's why I pay for Foxtel here - even though there's only 1 in a hundred shows I want to watch at least that means I can usually find one thing I like.

Atraveller
2010-Jul-21, 06:11 AM
There are too many to rattle off actually. That's why I pay for Foxtel here - even though there's only 1 in a hundred shows I want to watch at least that means I can usually find one thing I like.

You forgot "two and a half men" which never seems to end.... and I think the boy is bigger than Charlie Sheen...

Noclevername
2010-Jul-21, 10:39 PM
At this point I'm regularly not watching any show that doesn't start with "Myth" and end with "Busters".

Spoons
2010-Jul-22, 02:34 AM
Can't wait for the exciting comeback of MythDarma and Gregbusters!

vonmazur
2010-Jul-22, 03:06 AM
Waiting for House. Watching Beisbol...Atlanta Braves, Avoiding things like Ghost Hunters which has to be the worst example a pareidolia in the universe..

Dale

The Backroad Astronomer
2010-Jul-22, 03:53 PM
Let us wave our electrical detectors around a house with wires and jump to least likely thing it could be.

Buttercup
2010-Jul-22, 04:53 PM
I agree with you, Fazor, regarding the shows you've criticized; have never watched them but have seen advertisements. :sick: We're 10 years solid into "reality TV" and I still don't understand the appeal of it. While working in offices I'd had enough of dramas and petty stuff; who wants to go home and watch it on TV too?

Basically we stick to History Channel, Discover, TVLand, American Movie Classics, Weather Channel, Tru TV [particularly like "Forensic Files" and similar], CNN and MSN. Gameshows "Jeopardy" and "Wheel of Fortune." Mostly serious stuff.

Larry Jacks
2010-Jul-22, 04:56 PM
What am I not watching? Well, for starters, anything about vampires. After Buffy ended, I just don't care anymore. Second, I don't watch anything on network TV because I have not found anything worth my time.

Lately, I've enjoyed watching the old World at War series on the Military Channel. That, along with Mythbusters and The Deadliest Catch* are about it.

*I spent a year in the Aleutians. The weather was vile. That men go out in those waters in small fishing boats is something I can appreciate. I've never looked at crab in a restaurant the same way after watching that show.

Swift
2010-Jul-22, 04:59 PM
We're 10 years solid into "reality TV" and I still don't understand the appeal of it.
Me three. I also find ironic that they are for the most part less realistic than fictional shows. From what I understand, many are so edited or otherwise manipulated, if not flat out scripting, that they really are fiction.

I'm still waiting for a realistic reality show, with people working boring jobs, going to the bathroom, stuck in traffic, looking into the refrigerator wondering what to make for dinner, etc., etc. ;)

Buttercup
2010-Jul-22, 05:05 PM
'Toddlers in Tiaras' which litterally enrages me at how most of those parents are completely screwing up their kids. She thinks these little three and four year olds throwing "Diva tantrums!" is funny; it's like she doesn't understand that these are the exact kids that end up being the self-important, obnoxious, entitled wastes that plague our youth. She says "Yeah, but their not my kids" -- she doesn't seem to make the connection that we still end up having to deal with them every day. Argh!!!

Another comment: I totally agree with you here as well. Awhile back I had to (briefly) deal with a woman about my own age, who apparently had been very spoiled and indulged as a child. She was like dealing with a bratty passive-aggressive 10 year old, constantly. Unfortunately she was also the head-honcho's wife. In fiction she'd be "a colorful character," fun to hate and lampoon, good for a laugh. But this was real life and she was a total pain; I'm rarely tempted to violence, but did once think of popping her in the nose. Judging by others' reactions, they felt the same way. Fortunately my association was voluntary and I soon departed; thank goodness it was not a workplace situation (although I think she'd have been fired).

closetgeek
2010-Jul-30, 02:09 PM
Reality shows and gossip shows make my skin crawl. I don't even have the dead raccoon on the side of the road-type morbid curiousity to watch a day in the life of some famous person reality shows. The absolute worst, IMHO, are the 'way to many kids for a set of parents to possibly be able to handle' and counting shows. I am sorry your life is chaotic, I am really sorry that your house isn't big enough...STOP HAVING KIDS!

Spoons
2010-Jul-30, 02:26 PM
These types you just mentioned are candidates for the first human farms.

"Ol' Bessie here has had one hundred and sickty twoooo!"

TJMac
2010-Aug-01, 09:45 AM
I have a few basic rules, with rare exceptions. If it has a laugh track, its not watched. If it's about "real" people living life, I don't watch it, I dont care if you are a midget, or have too many kids, or live in the playboy mansion. Any show that keeps complaining about a "deadline", to finish something, not watched.

I saw preview the other day for some "chef" show, with one guy's face inches away from another's, screaming at him. Real world, I would head butt that guy in a second, and probably stomp him when he went down. :evil:

I am really, really getting tired of "we hunt serial killer" shows. That's not entertainment, in reality, that is sick and terrifying stuff. Remind me again why it is entertaining to watch people being killed and tortured?

And WifeSwap.... good grief. Words fail me.

"What would you do?" Another stupid, imo, show.


I am about down to only watching Dr. Who.

Fazor
2010-Aug-04, 02:16 PM
I am really, really getting tired of "we hunt serial killer" shows. That's not entertainment, in reality, that is sick and terrifying stuff. Remind me again why it is entertaining to watch people being killed and tortured?
We started watching 'Criminal Minds' last season (and caught up on most of the older season(s?) through re-runs.) I liked it at first because the cast is good (IMHO), but I have a very hard time watching the graphic depictions of violence. I'm getting more and more tired of being reminded that, while relatively rare (serial killers), these kinds of murders happen as isolated incidents every day.


I saw preview the other day for some "chef" show, with one guy's face inches away from another's, screaming at him. Real world, I would head butt that guy in a second, and probably stomp him when he went down.
Sounds like Gordon Ramsey's 'Hell's Kitchen'. I like a lot of cooking competition shows, but not for the competition 'drama'. For the food. I get a lot of neat ideas on stuff to make or try, and I also enjoy mentally playing along to the challenges and coming up with dishes I'd make. Hell's Kitchen, however, is not a show I even remotely enjoy. It went from mildly entertaining to a once-a-week, hour-long swear-fest as the "hardass" Gordon faces off against over-inflated egos of the contestants. Cooking is incidental; it could be a knitting competition at this point and I don't think a viewer would notice.

The sad thing here is, Gordon really does (or did?) have a great personality. I loved the 'Kitchen Nightmares' series -- when it was a British show. He was still "Mr Tough Love", but he never yelled or screamed at anyone who didn't need it, and you could see he honestly cared about helping these restaurant owners to turn their businesses around. When they brought the show over to the states, in typical US style, they decided that stupid Americans just want (manufactured) drama and swearing. It was immediately obvious that the 'resistance to change' and fighting between the owner and Gordon was scripted, and instead of any real help it was just a shouting match to show how much of a tough guy Gordon is. So basically, the two American shows were one in the same. I don't know that 'Kitchen Nightmare' is still around though.

The Backroad Astronomer
2010-Aug-04, 04:06 PM
This is the first time I have seen "Hell's Kitchen" and to me it seems they have half the crew that seemed to know how to cook well enough for Ramsey and the other half that seemed to how to cook but were just out of there league. I have to admit I did get sucked into the drama a little. I have seen "Kitchen Nightmares" and Ramsey's caring side does come out better there. I think much of the scripting Fazor is talking about comes mostly from the editing room. There is another series called "Master Chef" where they have people with no cooking background compete for the title of Master Chef whatever that is.

Fazor
2010-Aug-04, 04:32 PM
There is another series called "Master Chef" where they have people with no cooking background compete for the title of Master Chef whatever that is.
I saw the previews for that last night, but didn't end up watching it (it's new, if you didn't catch that. Last night was the first episode.) I watch 'Top Chef', 'Next Food Network Star', and 'Chopped', though I've long since given up on 'rooting for' anyone on those shows because it's always painfully obvious that despite performance in the later stages, winners are picked "behind the scenes" based on things like what will create the most 'drama'. For instance, the one underhanded, totally unlikable, mean person will always make it to at least the final three, because that generates the "Oh, I hate so-and-so soooo much! I hope they get 'voted off' this week!" hook to keep viewers talking. If everyone like every contestant and agreed on who was the best, there'd be no reason to watch. On the one hand, you can't blame the network. On the other, it can be very annoying. But I love to see some of the creative ways to use various foods and techniques.

redshifter
2010-Aug-04, 04:35 PM
Tough to pick out of the crop of horrible TV shows, but I'll go with just about any reality TV show, esp. any reality show with the word 'housewives' in the title.

With three foster kids in our home, the TV hasn't even been turned on in weeks, except for an occasional DVD.

danscope
2010-Aug-04, 05:28 PM
Yes. In my opinion, they do a genuine disservice to our beloved housewives without whom civilization would crumble quickly. Fact.

The Backroad Astronomer
2010-Aug-05, 02:17 AM
Another show I don't normally watch but watching this summer is "America's got Talent" just for this group (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBx2wkg9nhk).

NEOWatcher
2010-Aug-05, 03:30 PM
Another show I don't normally watch but watching this summer is "America's got Talent" just for this group (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBx2wkg9nhk).
Yeah, that was mentioned on another thread. Although; thanks for bringing it up here since it's a better place for some of my comments.

After watching that segment, I'm still not interested in watching. Particularly because of the response of Sharon Osborne.

"Too Technical"? Huh? what the heck does she mean by that. It's not like you have to understand anything technical to be entertained by it.

Based on the fact that she buzzed before they got to the arcing tells me she was just covering herself for buzzing too soon. (although; I do think they had way too long of an intro to the arcing)

As far as the band... I'm not sure if it's the selection that they had, but I didn't notice any music coming from the tesla coil. It was either overshadowed by the other instruments, or was only there for the visual.

The Backroad Astronomer
2010-Aug-05, 06:54 PM
Well Sharon was the swing vote this week and decided to go with arc attack.

NEOWatcher
2010-Aug-05, 07:44 PM
Well Sharon was the swing vote this week and decided to go with arc attack.
I actually didn't click on the OP here thinking it was the same performance as the other thread (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/60710-Tesla-Coil-Making-Music). ( Other link to the audition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ee5rZ0PzeI) ). She hated the initial music, buzzed, then looked absolutely agape when the coil started, and said it was fabulous, then still rejected it.

This one, they started off right away with the coil. It was a much more impressive performance.

SkepticJ
2010-Aug-05, 11:34 PM
The Colony - it's not "real" reality TV, it's fake reality TV.

danscope
2010-Aug-06, 06:52 PM
Today I am not watching court tv or fox nooze . Gee, I feel better already. :)

Moose
2010-Aug-06, 06:59 PM
Pretty much everything, at the moment. What little TV I watch is between seasons.

danscope
2010-Aug-07, 03:17 AM
Pretty good golf from Akron, Ohio. I passed on ' Buffy the vampire slayer' .

closetgeek
2010-Aug-09, 01:53 PM
Today I am not watching court tv or fox nooze . Gee, I feel better already. :)

I actually get hooked on watching those court cases. I just wish they would get rid of the commentators. I can't stand how they decide the verdict from the start and then try to sway public opinion to that side while pretending to be objective.

Fazor
2010-Aug-09, 02:05 PM
I actually get hooked on watching those court cases. I just wish they would get rid of the commentators. I can't stand how they decide the verdict from the start and then try to sway public opinion to that side while pretending to be objective.

I can't stand how they pretend to be any sort of real legal proceeding. *shrug*

danscope
2010-Aug-09, 08:17 PM
Yes, you have got the very heart of the matter. They don't give you credit for thinking for yourself.
" The mind is an extraordinary muscle which demands frequent exercise." Danny Bessette ...or somebody like him . :)

closetgeek
2010-Aug-12, 01:42 PM
I can't stand how they pretend to be any sort of real legal proceeding. *shrug*

I don't know if we are talking about the same court type tv. I am talking about In Session on Tru tv. They are real court cases but the break every now and then with commentators that have already decided the outcome.

Fazor
2010-Aug-12, 02:14 PM
I don't know if we are talking about the same court type tv. I am talking about In Session on Tru tv. They are real court cases but the break every now and then with commentators that have already decided the outcome.

Oh. I thought you were talking about 'Judge Judy' or 'Judge Joe Brown'. Blah. :)

closetgeek
2010-Aug-13, 03:45 PM
Oh. I thought you were talking about 'Judge Judy' or 'Judge Joe Brown'. Blah. :)

Oh gosh no! Those shows feel like a partial lobotomy. I may have been misunderstanding Danscope, though.

swampyankee
2010-Aug-13, 04:00 PM
Golf

Fazor
2010-Aug-17, 07:17 PM
Ha. I thought this 'Loose Parts' comic (http://www.gocomics.com/looseparts/2010/08/17/)would be appropriate for this thread (I think it's okay to link to, seeing as I got the link from their "share" button).

danscope
2010-Aug-18, 01:32 AM
Well, instead of broadcast triffle, my wife and I are watching a fine movie called " The Quiet Man " . This is a marvelous film and is
highly recomended . Maureen O'Hara and John Wayne along with Barry Fitzgerald and Ward Bond are superb.
Best regards ,
Dan

swampyankee
2010-Aug-18, 02:41 AM
Well, instead of broadcast triffle, my wife and I are watching a fine movie called " The Quiet Man " . This is a marvelous film and is
highly recomended . Maureen O'Hara and John Wayne along with Barry Fitzgerald and Ward Bond are superb.
Best regards ,
Dan


The Quiet Man is probably one of John Wayne's best performances, too. Great movie.

danscope
2010-Aug-19, 09:14 PM
Yes, it was from a kind and gentler place ! If only I could fly fish for salmon over there.
Best regards,
Dan

closetgeek
2010-Aug-25, 01:55 AM
With three kids in the house, I get to watch a lot of tween/teen programming. I hate to admit it but some of them, I actually enjoy; iCarly, Wizards of Waverly Place, and Chowder. I finally felt my first complete disconnect from that generation. There is this newer show out Adventure Time, it's painfully stupid. All my kids watch it, their friends watch it, they all look like zombies watching it but I just don't get the show. It's terrifying, what's occupying kids on television.

Spoons
2010-Aug-25, 07:22 AM
I heard of that iCarly show, but I can't bring myself to look at anything with that annoying iPrefix. This causes trouble in traffic here, with Hyundai bring out those annoying little i30's, i45's iLoad etc - I've had a few close shaves, but I'm sticking to my guns.

It's really not that bad, is it?

Fazor
2010-Aug-25, 12:49 PM
I'm a sucker for stupid cartoons; Spongebob. Chowder. Fairly Odd Parents. Whatever. But the promos and about 2 minutes worth of an episode I caught of 'Adventure Time' were . . . Well, god knows what they were. Other than awful anyway. So I'm with you on that one, Geek.

Tara watches a lot of those other ones you mentioned. Wizzards and iCarley specifically. Both have more than a few redeeming qualities, but I wouldn't watch either myself.

closetgeek
2010-Aug-25, 01:35 PM
I heard of that iCarly show, but I can't bring myself to look at anything with that annoying iPrefix. This causes trouble in traffic here, with Hyundai bring out those annoying little i30's, i45's iLoad etc - I've had a few close shaves, but I'm sticking to my guns.

It's really not that bad, is it?

iCarly is cute and relatively wholesome.

Adventure Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtyJi3lExo0&feature=related) though I don't recommend watching it by yourself. Once the process starts, the IQ droppage increases exponentially.

Fairly Odd Parents, I don't even need the kids around as an excuse to watch. The show is funny.

ETA *sound warning* that link is to the pilot episode of Adventure Time, incase anyone is at work. Sorry, my bad.

Fazor
2010-Aug-25, 01:43 PM
Fairly Odd Parents, I don't even need the kids around as an excuse to watch. The show is funny.
And I forgot to mention "The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack" ! I enjoy "Phinneus and Pherb" as well.

closetgeek
2010-Aug-25, 01:54 PM
And I forgot to mention "The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack" ! I enjoy "Phinneus and Pherb" as well.

"Mom! Phineus and Ferb are doing a title sequence."

Spoons
2010-Aug-25, 02:13 PM
iCarly is cute and relatively wholesome.
Ah, well, fair enough. I just wish they'd picked a better name.


Adventure Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtyJi3lExo0&feature=related) though I don't recommend watching it by yourself. Once the process starts, the IQ droppage increases exponentially.
I'd feel super creepy watching this, or probably any of them, since I don't have kids. The feds might bust through my door, and how would I explain watching little kids shows in my boxer shorts. I suppose I could put extra clothes on, but I like relaxing in my boxers, dang it!

Tonight I didn't watch the Ben Cousins special on TV. It was a special doco on a drug addict footy player in Australia, who gets special attention, either slagging him off more than others or defending him because he's a "sporting hero". To me it's no big deal - just another addict. I'm more interested in who makes the money from the show. If a former(?) addict, most likely dealer too, makes money off his crimes, in this country that is supposed to be illegal. Chopper had a lot of trouble getting his books out, and the government tried to take his sales profits off him, though I'm not sure how that all panned out.

NEOWatcher
2010-Aug-25, 02:20 PM
Ah, well, fair enough. I just wish they'd picked a better name.
But it fits the theme of the show.
Besides, I think it's clever because it can double as meaning <me>Carly.

Spoons
2010-Aug-25, 02:25 PM
Okay. I will trust you're right. I can also see what you mean about the double meaning. I still can't bring myself to watch it though. It just bugs me, seems unoriginal.

closetgeek
2010-Aug-25, 09:17 PM
I'd feel super creepy watching this, or probably any of them, since I don't have kids. The feds might bust through my door, and how would I explain watching little kids shows in my boxer shorts. I suppose I could put extra clothes on, but I like relaxing in my boxers, dang it!


*my bold*

The scarey part is it seems to appeal to an older audience. My kids are 10, 11, and 13, they watch it, their friends watch it, my boyfriend's housemate's daughter and her friends watch it (12/13). I don't get it.

Spoons
2010-Aug-26, 12:23 AM
Now that I'm an old man, anyone under 15 is a little kid. Anyone from 15-18 is a whippersnapper. Anyone older than that but younger than me was just lazy getting out the womb.

The Backroad Astronomer
2010-Aug-26, 01:27 AM
Well, Arc Attack did not get to final the top ten.

SkepticJ
2010-Aug-26, 01:37 AM
It just bugs me, seems unoriginal.

I tried watching an episode, and it was like a million pieces of chalk screeching across the blackboard of my mind.

To be fair, though, any show with laugh-tracks makes me feel that way.

Spoons
2010-Aug-26, 03:17 AM
To be fair, though, any show with laugh-tracks makes me feel that way.

I know what you mean... none of them can live up to the genius that was "Full House" anyway. *aaaaaaw*

The Backroad Astronomer
2010-Oct-14, 02:07 AM
Not much of the new season shows really appeal to me. Also not watching much of The Daily Show because they changed the time they air it here in Canada. I try to catch it when it is rebroadcast. Most of the time during the days I normally turn off the TV after only watching an hour or two. Listening to more and more podcasts over the last two years (curse you Phil Plait for introducing me to these). One web show that I have started watching in the last couple weeks is The Guild but I have already watched all 5 seasons of it.

Barabino
2014-May-04, 09:41 AM
I hate most cooking realities because they focus on a "100% visual" cuisine (you know: decorated wedding cakes etc)... "Best bakery" is slightly better because at least focus on taste and not only on sight...

19512

Barabino
2014-May-04, 09:47 AM
I hate most cooking realities because they focus on a "100% visual" cuisine (you know: decorated wedding cakes etc)...


19512

"Best bakery" is slightly better because at least they focus on taste and not only on sight...

Paul Beardsley
2014-May-04, 11:11 AM
Trying to decide whether to continue with Believe. So far I've seen about four episodes, and they are all the same - identical plots and "character moments". In my opinion, J.J. Abrams does not have a good track record - and I prefer my opinion to other people's in such matters. Believe does little to seduce me into suspending my disbelief, no pun intended, because the "what if" element is hackneyed. But Clare is persevering so I'll give it another episode to improve.

jokergirl
2014-May-04, 11:14 AM
I don't have a TV, but even so I don't follow what most of my TV-denying geek friends watch, game of thrones. I read the first books, browsed through the next few and just lost interest in fantasy soap or any of its protagonists. I don't find the writing particularly good, either.

Barabino
2014-May-05, 04:17 AM
I did not watch Game of Thrones because I hate Fantasy (blame Michel Moorcock's judgement of Tolkien), but i'm repenting of that...

Shaula
2014-May-05, 05:34 AM
I don't have a TV, but even so I don't follow what most of my TV-denying geek friends watch, game of thrones. I read the first books, browsed through the next few and just lost interest in fantasy soap or any of its protagonists. I don't find the writing particularly good, either.
Surprisingly this is one of those rare examples where I think the TV version is actually a bit better than the books.

jokergirl
2014-May-05, 07:24 AM
It is a bit better (I've watched the first season and still can't escape the updates of the current status on the net.). It's a bit more compressed and thus flows a lot better. But it still fails to convince me that the story is actually going anywhere or coming nearer a resolution (or even joining the two plotlines that currently are on two separate continents and don't even know of each other's existence) any time soon.

;)

Shaula
2014-May-05, 08:36 AM
It is a bit better (I've watched the first season and still can't escape the updates of the current status on the net.). It's a bit more compressed and thus flows a lot better. But it still fails to convince me that the story is actually going anywhere or coming nearer a resolution (or even joining the two plotlines that currently are on two separate continents and don't even know of each other's existence) any time soon.
There is one interesting outcome that might come from this - it is a virtual certainty that the TV series will end well before the books. So they will effectively be writing the series ending (they have already made plans to do this, confirmed in interviews). I think it will be better than the books!

jokergirl
2014-May-05, 11:35 AM
There is one interesting outcome that might come from this - it is a virtual certainty that the TV series will end well before the books. So they will effectively be writing the series ending (they have already made plans to do this, confirmed in interviews). I think it will be better than the books!

Indeed. I might watch it again once the series catches up with the end of what I have read, out of curiosity on where they will take it.

;)