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Fraser
2010-Sep-01, 03:00 PM
The idea of the “Theory of Everything” is enticing – that we could somehow explain all that is. String theory has been proposed since the 1960’s as a way to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity into such an explanation. However, the biggest criticism of String Theory is that it isn't testable. But now, a [...]

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trinitree88
2010-Sep-01, 04:39 PM
The idea of the “Theory of Everything” is enticing – that we could somehow explain all that is. String theory has been proposed since the 1960’s as a way to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity into such an explanation. However, the biggest criticism of String Theory is that it isn't testable. But now, a [...]

More... (http://www.universetoday.com/72531/scientists-say-they-can-now-test-string-theory/)

Fraser. Does this mean they will now be able to produce a black hole in a laboratory? I have some pretty smelly garbage during the hot weather, that I put ammonia in to keep the feral cats and raccoons out, and a quantum entangled black hole would be real useful for a garbage disposal in the heat. There's some physics stuff I could trash there too. pete

dgavin
2010-Sep-01, 06:47 PM
Now that is cool

If it does pan out that string theory quantum entanglement predictions which match black hole predictions, would this possibly mean that instead of black holes collapsing into a singularity, that they are actually collapsing into a string-star (the core is a mass of entangled strings)?

Would this also fit with that some scientists modeling close orbiting black hole orbits, find the model matches the probability cloud orbits of electrons?

Nereid
2010-Sep-03, 03:04 PM
Looks like it's as close to pure hype as one can get.

Check out Researchers Discover How to Conduct First Test of “Untestable” String Theory (http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=3127), a Not Even Wrong blog entry (by Peter Woit).

dgavin
2010-Sep-04, 04:26 PM
Looks like it's as close to pure hype as one can get.

Check out Researchers Discover How to Conduct First Test of “Untestable” String Theory (http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=3127), a Not Even Wrong blog entry (by Lee Smolin).

That is just so disapointing, and it's liekly going to harm string theory in the future, people will come to think of it as junk science and best ignored. Which is doubly a shame as they have seem to have found a coorelation in strang theory math between entanaglment and black holes that should be investigated. Doubt that will happen now.

trinitree88
2010-Sep-07, 05:15 PM
Looks like it's as close to pure hype as one can get.

Check out Researchers Discover How to Conduct First Test of “Untestable” String Theory (http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=3127), a Not Even Wrong blog entry (by Lee Smolin).

Nereid. Yep. Just heave it into the trashbin. Not even wrong.
It ought to be incumbent upon the science community to have a better handle on press releases, not to be censoring freedom of the press, but perhaps putting a rating on the release much in the same manner that movies are categorized as PG,R,etc...by a consortium of mixed reviewers. It erodes the faith of the public in the enterprise of science to have the hype and then see it leak like air out of a balloon.Not just disappointing, a waste of time reading.

pete

EDG
2010-Sep-07, 10:26 PM
Nice to see people here being open-minded as usual. :doh:

trinitree88
2010-Sep-09, 10:00 PM
Nice to see people here being open-minded as usual. :doh:

EDG. Not quite so fast. String theory has been a much heralded venue for thinking for ~ 30 years and has produced not a thing by way of predictions in the lab. Supersymmetry ditto....34 particles and antiparticles, none of which has ever been seen in an accelerator or cosmic ray detector. This is science. The proof is in the pudding...or not. I'll take the Missouri farmers' position. Show me. pete


SEE:http://www.netstate.com/states/intro/mo_intro.htm

SEE:http://hitoshi.berkeley.edu/public_html/susy/susy.html


SEE:http://quantumfieldtheory.org/

EDG
2010-Sep-09, 10:42 PM
EDG. Not quite so fast. String theory has been a much heralded venue for thinking for ~ 30 years and has produced not a thing by way of predictions in the lab. Supersymmetry ditto....34 particles and antiparticles, none of which has ever been seen in an accelerator or cosmic ray detector. This is science. The proof is in the pudding...or not. I'll take the Missouri farmers' position. Show me. pete

Give them a chance and maybe they just might. Let's see if this thing really can predict anything. Don't just mock and sneer and dismiss it out of hand before then. Investigating is the scientific way, dismissing without evidence is not.
And also, so what about the blog article posted earlier? Scientists are always disagreeing with eachother. Is this random guy any more of an authority on it just because he's written a book slagging off string theory?