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RGClark
2010-Nov-28, 02:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isc5cKwi3GU

(I'll be forgiven for posting this without a disclaimer as I'm sure someone will post the real story on the video soon enough.)


Bob Clark :lol:

Extracelestial
2010-Nov-28, 03:22 PM
Hi Bob,

me LOL as well! :clap:

This is quiete clearly a skillful fabrication. The alleged mars-craft is the ISS; I spotted the attached ATV, a manipulator arm and probably the Piers module.
The background has been cleverly photo-shopped: the Arabian peninsula with a sand storm coming from the west and of course Valle Marinaris and probably the rim of Gusev crater.

A fabrication as I said - nice job though.

Ex

R.A.F.
2010-Nov-28, 04:23 PM
I don't tend to experience motion sickness (air or sea), but watching these "type" videos always makes me ill. Hold the camera steady for cryin' out loud.

Reminds me of "shaky" UFO videos...

Garrison
2010-Nov-28, 05:28 PM
This is a short segment from a clip created by someone who goes by the name 'TheFakingHoaxer'. The full thing is like a brief video diary recorded by the crew of a 1970's Mars mission. He is also responsible for the rather grim 'Shuttle Scenarios' video, as well as several others essentially intended to show off his skills at video manipulation.
Here's his channel at Youtube including the complete Mars mission video:

TheFakingHoaxer (http://www.youtube.com/user/thefakinghoaxer#p/u/19/HUHmd26rPKs)

TJMac
2010-Nov-28, 08:50 PM
I wonder why YouTube videos tend to make me feel like "Red Foreman"?

Maybe the spouse is correct, and I'm just grumpy.

ZappBrannigan
2010-Nov-28, 11:43 PM
Nice! I'd sure like to see this for real someday. I should lose some weight so I live long enough.

RGClark
2010-Nov-28, 11:44 PM
I wonder why YouTube videos tend to make me feel like "Red Foreman"?
Maybe the spouse is correct, and I'm just grumpy.

I get the reference to Red Foreman, the grouchy father character on "That 70's Show." But why should they make you feel grouchy?

Bob Clark

NEOWatcher
2010-Nov-29, 03:36 PM
Since we've already been there, have the technology, and know what the issues and costs are involved, does that mean that all your threads about economical ways to get to Mars (and the moon) with mining facilities, depots, and the like are no longer applicable? :whistle:

Trebuchet
2010-Nov-29, 05:15 PM
Want to go to Mars? Easy! Just sign up for this seminar (http://www.joanocean.com/SYMP011/index.html). You can swim there with the dolphins. Or something.

Discussed on Pharyngula here (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/11/cheaper_than_nasa.php#comments). Comments can be, and frequently are, NSFW.

Garrison
2010-Nov-29, 06:47 PM
Want to go to Mars? Easy! Just sign up for this seminar (http://www.joanocean.com/SYMP011/index.html). You can swim there with the dolphins. Or something.

Discussed on Pharyngula here (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/11/cheaper_than_nasa.php#comments). Comments can be, and frequently are, NSFW.

Okay some has taken 'So long and thanks for all the fish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_Long,_and_Thanks_for_All_the_Fish)' way too seriously...

Trebuchet
2010-Nov-29, 08:17 PM
Okay some has taken 'So long and thanks for all the fish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_Long,_and_Thanks_for_All_the_Fish)' way too seriously...

That was one of the early Pharyngula comments, as well.

Garrison
2010-Nov-29, 08:43 PM
That was one of the early Pharyngula comments, as well.

I'd have been amazed if it wasn't. :)

tpeterson06
2010-Nov-29, 10:20 PM
Shocking though how good image manipulation has become for the amatuer. In another couple of years, how will we know what is real versus what is not? The better the image manipulation, the easier it is to convince a less skeptical masses.

Luckmeister
2010-Nov-29, 11:08 PM
Shocking though how good image manipulation has become for the amatuer. In another couple of years, how will we know what is real versus what is not? The better the image manipulation, the easier it is to convince a less skeptical masses.

Unfortunately, The less skeptical masses seem easily enough convinced without good video.

chrlzs
2010-Nov-30, 08:11 AM
Shocking though how good image manipulation has become for the amatuer. In another couple of years, how will we know what is real versus what is not? The better the image manipulation, the easier it is to convince a less skeptical masses.

I think it's great!

Why? I'm glad you asked....

Simply because it is *finally* making more people realise that images or videos are essentially worthless - unless they have supporting context and provenance.

There have always been good fakers - heck, even Billy Meier was regarded as 'good' by some people who should have known better..

So I'm glad that it is now relatively easy to generate believable cgi, as it means proper scrutiny is applied more often, and even true believers are starting to ask the questions that should have always been asked..

Gawdzilla
2010-Dec-06, 06:02 PM
"The camera never lies."

"Man will never fly."

"I see no need for more than six computers for the entire United States." (Yeah, I know, so what?)

"Cars can never go more than sixty miles an hour, faster will suck the air out of our lungs."

Gawdzilla
2010-Dec-06, 07:14 PM
Anybody notice that video does prove we've been to Mars, just near it?