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icarus2
2010-Dec-13, 04:15 PM
Hello
I’m sorry. I can’t English well. My native language is not English.

[Birth of the Universe from “Nothing”]

[ Birth of the Universe from the Zero Energy State ]

1)There was a pair creation of positive and negative energy in the early universe.

2)The total energy of universe is 0.
Stephen Hawking and Alan Guth et al. argued that gravitational potential energy is negative energy, and that such gravitational potential energy can offset all positive mass energy during a period of inflation.

3) The acceleration in the expansion of the universe observed suggests the existence of positive energy out of mass energy, and alternatively, it corresponds to what the overall gravitational potential energy of the universe has positive value, indicating that gravitational potential energy will not able to offset positive energy.

4) Nothing but the gravitational potential energy doesn’t completely offset mass energy. And for the birth of the universe from “nothing” and energy conservation at the birth of the universe, “negative mass”, which corresponds to “negative energy”, is needed.

5)The basic principle of physics of “lower state of energy is stable!” is wrong. So it should be modified to “lower state of energy as far as positive mass is concerned and higher state of energy as far as negative mass is concerned is stable!”.

6)“Transition to the energy level of minus infinity”, which was used to deny the existence of negative mass, did not occur, whereas a. Relativistic energy eq., b. Dirac eq., c. field equation existed, suggesting the existence of negative mass.

[ Void Structure results from~ ]
1)The presence of primitive void due to a pair annihilation of positive mass and negative mass.
2)The presence of void due to gravitational contraction between positive mass and repulsive effect between negative mass.

[ Birth and Expansion of the Universe from singular point(or domain) ]

1)Even though all the mass of the universe come together in one small area on Big Bang, it does not have the same density as the black hole due to offsetting of density between positive mass and negative mass. Therefore it can be expandable.

2)The law of motion of positive mass and negative mass naturally explains that “expansion after birth” is the essential characteristics of the universe.

3)The expansion of the universe takes place in the state of total rest mass energy of “0” and, clusters of galaxies and the void structure can be achieved.

4)Energy conservation and momentum conservation exists without giving the initial velocity, and expansion of the universe occurs.

5)It does not require any other force except already known force, gravity.

---Icarus2

forrest noble
2010-Dec-17, 01:29 AM
This, or something like it, has been proposed a great many times concerning alternative mainstream ideas. The logical problem with such ideas concerns the creation of the whole universe from the ZPF with no explanation concerning the source of the ZPF itself in the first place, or the seemingly fantastic beginning mechanics for such a proposal. This is a very difficult proposal to defend since we seemingly never could have unequivocal evidence of any particular beginning. Such proposals stem from the "false" idea that the beginning cause must itself have a clear explanation. The fallacy of this logic becomes apparent as questions continue. If that is true then what was the cause of that? and so on. The result of such unending questioning is an infinite beginning or cycle of some kind which certainly is a logical possibility but all the "steps in the middle" can be logically eliminated to make the simplest proposals concerning an infinite beginning.

forrest noble
2010-Dec-17, 01:36 AM
Hello
I’m sorry. I can’t English well. My native language is not English.

[Birth of the Universe from “Nothing”]

[ Birth of the Universe from the Zero Energy State ]

1)There was a pair creation of positive and negative energy in the early universe.

2)The total energy of universe is 0.
Stephen Hawking and Alan Guth et al. argued that gravitational potential energy is negative energy, and that such gravitational potential energy can offset all positive mass energy during a period of inflation.

3) The acceleration in the expansion of the universe observed suggests the existence of positive energy out of mass energy, and alternatively, it corresponds to what the overall gravitational potential energy of the universe has positive value, indicating that gravitational potential energy will not able to offset positive energy.

4) Nothing but the gravitational potential energy doesn’t completely offset mass energy. And for the birth of the universe from “nothing” and energy conservation at the birth of the universe, “negative mass”, which corresponds to “negative energy”, is needed.

5)The basic principle of physics of “lower state of energy is stable!” is wrong. So it should be modified to “lower state of energy as far as positive mass is concerned and higher state of energy as far as negative mass is concerned is stable!”.

6)“Transition to the energy level of minus infinity”, which was used to deny the existence of negative mass, did not occur, whereas a. Relativistic energy eq., b. Dirac eq., c. field equation existed, suggesting the existence of negative mass.

[ Void Structure results from~ ]
1)The presence of primitive void due to a pair annihilation of positive mass and negative mass.
2)The presence of void due to gravitational contraction between positive mass and repulsive effect between negative mass.

[ Birth and Expansion of the Universe from singular point(or domain) ]

1)Even though all the mass of the universe come together in one small area on Big Bang, it does not have the same density as the black hole due to offsetting of density between positive mass and negative mass. Therefore it can be expandable.

2)The law of motion of positive mass and negative mass naturally explains that “expansion after birth” is the essential characteristics of the universe.

3)The expansion of the universe takes place in the state of total rest mass energy of “0” and, clusters of galaxies and the void structure can be achieved.

4)Energy conservation and momentum conservation exists without giving the initial velocity, and expansion of the universe occurs.

5)It does not require any other force except already known force, gravity.

---Icarus2

I realize it's close to impossible trying to present a proposal in a different language. It's hard enough in the ATM section when English is your first language :) Good luck:)

This, or something like it, has been proposed a great many times concerning alternative mainstream ideas. The logical problem with such ideas concerns the creation of the whole universe from the ZPF with no explanation concerning the source of the ZPF itself in the first place, or the seemingly fantastic beginning mechanics for such a proposal. This is a very difficult proposal to defend since we seemingly never could have unequivocal evidence of any particular beginning. Such proposals stem from what I think is the "false" idea that the beginning cause must itself have a clear explanation. The fallacy of this logic becomes apparent as questions continue. If that is true then what was the cause of that? and so on. The result of such unending questioning is an infinite beginning or cycle of some kind which certainly is a logical possibility but all the "steps in the middle" can be logically eliminated to make the simplest proposals concerning an infinite beginning. The details of the model itself determines its "possibility" I think, not whether it is a finite or infinite model.

sirjon
2010-Dec-26, 04:10 AM
Hello
I’m sorry. I can’t English well. My native language is not English.

[Birth of the Universe from “Nothing”]

[ Birth of the Universe from the Zero Energy State ]

1)There was a pair creation of positive and negative energy in the early universe.

2)The total energy of universe is 0.

Are you suggesting that there is an equal or balance amount of positive and negative energy resulting to a total zero energy?
In a practical way, a battery will not work if there is a balance of electrons on both side of its poles. The positive polarity indicate a lack of electrons and the other side, the excess of electrons. if you connect a bulb, it will 'glow' because there is a flow of electrons. The 'uncertainty theory' suggests that there should be at least a minimal inequality in a system for it to 'work'. How can be a universe created in such 'condition'? Please elaborate more.

amazeofdeath
2010-Dec-27, 09:23 PM
The 'uncertainty theory' suggests that there should be at least a minimal inequality in a system for it to 'work'. Hmm, are your referring to uncertainty principle? Heisenberg? There can't be an even particle distribution in the early universe, if quantum mechanics has anything to say there.

icarus2
2010-Dec-28, 04:00 PM
Hello
I’m sorry. I can’t English well. My native language is not English.

Thanks forrest noble and sirjon

Are you suggesting that there is an equal or balance amount of positive and negative energy resulting to a total zero energy?
Yes!

In a practical way, a battery will not work if there is a balance of electrons on both side of its poles. The positive polarity indicate a lack of electrons and the other side, the excess of electrons. if you connect a bulb, it will 'glow' because there is a flow of electrons.
Yes! But gravity is special.
ma = -GMm/r^2
a=-GM/r^2,
Unusual, gravity is concerned with the acceleration

How can be a universe created in such 'condition'? Please elaborate more.
Phase transition which the gravity is separated(or birthed) was generated at the beginning of universe when vacuum state was Total Energy = (E-) + (E+) = 0, birth of gravity means the existence of mass(energy) at local domain.

At above simulation, we observed that universe is expanding, locally clustering and void structure from the zero energy state.

I think that gravity and electromagnetic force were born from “a complete state of nothingness without gravity and electromagnetic force”, the universe expanded and locally clustered, and void and galactic structure were formed.

In addition, I have some excuses for the causes of the birth of gravity and electromagnetic force from nothingness.

But, I don’t want to disclose them right now because
1. Maybe, I am likely to write a paper on this matter in the future.
2. I am going to say about these when people are ready to listen to what I say when the hypothesis of negative mass is more recognized by people than now.

I’m very sorry.
Have a nice day!

--- icarus2

sirjon
2010-Dec-29, 08:47 AM
Hmm, are your referring to uncertainty principle? Heisenberg? There can't be an even particle distribution in the early universe, if quantum mechanics has anything to say there.

Yes, it is.

Hello
I think that gravity and electromagnetic force were born from “a complete state of nothingness without gravity and electromagnetic force”,

It is similar to Alan Guth's hypothesis that the Universe is an "ultimate free lunch", see page 129, A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking. It also stated there, that 'gravity has negative energy' that balances the 'positive energy represented by matter'. Maybe, it is time to reconsider it but I doubt that it is the correct theory...