View Full Version : How many non-UN Nations

Philippe Lemay
2011-Jan-14, 11:03 PM
I browsed Google and Wikipedia to the best of my ability but I simply cannot find an answer to my query. I simply want to know this... What portion of humanity is under the United Nations? Is it 100%? Is every human being on the planet represented? I did find this excerpt on wiki:
With the addition of Montenegro on 28 June 2006, there are currently 192 United Nations member states, including all fully recognized independent states apart from Vatican City (the Holy See, which holds sovereignty over the state of Vatican City, is a permanent observer).So how many people do the UNrecognized states make up? Are we talking like... a few million? I'd like an approximate percentage of all 6.8 billion humans.

Basically I'd like to know how successful the UN is as a representative of humanity as a whole. If aliens landed tomorrow and they asked to speak to a representative of all of us, would a UN representative satisfy that criteria? Or would some humans be left out? Even if it's the odd radical state like North Korea and rebels in developing countries.

2011-Jan-14, 11:14 PM
Good question. There seem to be 6.88 billion people covered.

ETA: There seem to be 3 none member nations and non nation territories such as tha Antarctica or unclaimed islands, people on ships and the likes:


2011-Jan-14, 11:34 PM
You've already mentioned the Vatican See, and a1call's link also mentions Kosovo and Taiwan--two nations whose "nationhood" is disputed by some other nations.

ETA: The United Nations website (http://www.un.org/en/members/nonmembers.shtml) also lists only two Permanent Observers Non-members, the Holy See and Palestine

EETA: The UN Membership Growth shows a handful of countries being added in the past ten years, including Switzerland, and Montenegro

Philippe Lemay
2011-Jan-15, 10:03 PM
6.88 billion is awfully impressive, especially since the World Population Clock only comes up to 6.86 billion, lol. We have fictitious members in the UN!

And yea, I ran across the Taiwan issue... talk about a confused mess! China's being a bit of a bully if you ask me.
This made me laugh though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Consensus That is the biggest case of agreeing to disagree I have ever seen. lol

2011-Jan-16, 05:04 AM
while i live in one of the main member nations of the UN, i don't consider myself to be "under" the UN.
in fact, i tend to just shake my head and think that there has to be a better way to do things every time i hear anything about the UN..

2011-Jan-16, 03:44 PM
The OP question was adequately answered, and a cross into value politics was inevitable. I suppose it's best we got that part out of the way early. Thread closed.