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jeff Mitchell
2011-Apr-03, 03:09 PM
1. Once upon a time there was a singularity?
2. Once upon a time the singularity decided to expand?
3. The universe is homogenous and isotropic except it has a void a billion ly's across discovered by the Lawernce Rudnick?
4. Galaxies are going away from each other faster and faster due to that pesky dark energy?
5. Galaxies can fly away from each other faster than the speed of light because space expands faster than the speed of light?
6. The universe expanded the same in all directions; except it expanded flat according to NASA. Must of run into "dark walls"?
7. The cmbr is proof of the big bang because because there are not enough stars to account for the radiation. Pieter van Dokkum, professor of astronomy at Yale and Charlie Conroy of the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics have stated the number os stars have been seriously miscounted, with the estimation there could be three times as many stars as previously thought?
8. Most of the matter in the universe is dark matter, we just can't find any here on earth?

Enough nails in the coffin. It's time to bury the sucker.

Shaula
2011-Apr-03, 03:16 PM
1) Nope. That point is simply extrapolated from the model but lies beyond the point at which the model breaks down. It is invalid to claim that the singularity exists for real.
2) Nope. See previous point and note that time wasn't well defined as far as we know before the event. Time and space are one.
3) On large scales it is.
4) Nope. That is due to expansion. Expansion is speeding up due to dark energy
5) Yep. See GR for why.
6) Flat is a comment on the geometry of space time. No idea what point you are trying to make here.
7) Not what the CMBR is about at all. And the stars estimate being off by a factor of three is not enough to slot into any theory I have seen as to a non-bang CMBR.
8) Yup. Just like for years we couldn't find neutrinos. Some things are hard to detect.

You need a MUCH better grounding in cosmology before you try to debunk it. Suggest you read up on the subject.

Tensor
2011-Apr-03, 03:23 PM
Shaula covers it very well, but just for fun:

7) Stars can't account for the power spectrum of the CMB.

Cougar
2011-Apr-03, 03:35 PM
Enough nails in the coffin. It's time to bury the sucker.

It is astonishing how someone can be so certain and confident, and at the same time be so ill-informed. Would you please expain how that works?

Perikles
2011-Apr-03, 03:38 PM
5. Galaxies can fly away from each other faster than the speed of light because space expands faster than the speed of light?



.5) Yep. See GR for why.
.Actually, you have lost me on this one. Are you saying you can have one galaxy receding at greater than c relative to another?

Anyway, shouldn't this thead be in the ATM section?

Moose
2011-Apr-03, 04:23 PM
jeff Mitchell, a) you may not post against the mainstream topics outside of the against the mainstream forum. As this is not the first time you've done so, you are being levied infraction points. Do not post ATM material outside of the ATM forum again.

b) You've also made/defended this claim before. You are entitled to one, and one only, 30-day proving unless you are bringing something substantially new to the table. Meaning, something not available at the time of your previous proving. As this is clearly not the case, the thread is closed.