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Buttercup
2011-Sep-14, 07:17 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/hilariously-bad-art-1315956445-slideshow/

An 11 item slideshow. The title speaks for itself. :doh:

starcanuck64
2011-Sep-14, 08:05 PM
Some of them are from here:

http://www.museumofbadart.org/

NEOWatcher
2011-Sep-14, 08:10 PM
With as much bad art as there are in the world, what makes these notable? I've seen worse museum art. (although; I know nothing about being an art critic)

There's a reason that most of them were found in the trash.
I wonder if the one's that are "donated by the artist" were donated when the curator saw them on thier way to put them in the trash.

Fazor
2011-Sep-14, 08:12 PM
You know what though? There's a few that I sort of like. The On a Windy Day painting I find absolutely charming. Yeah, the perspective and the proportion are all wrong. But I think it has a wonderful "illustrated children's book" feel. It might not be good in the technical sense, but I like looking at it. To me, that's the important part.

And that's what makes art such a subjective thing.

pzkpfw
2011-Sep-14, 08:25 PM
...

I generally hate "me too" posts, but I simply could not resist saying, Fazor, I agree with every single word you wrote in that post.

Fazor
2011-Sep-14, 08:41 PM
. . . Fazor, I agree with every single word you wrote in that post.

Uh oh . . . the phrase you just uttered is considered by the US Department of Health as being one of the first sure-fire signs of a serious mental illness. Just say'n you may want a check up just to be safe. ;)

SkepticJ
2011-Sep-14, 09:10 PM
With as much bad art as there are in the world, what makes these notable? I've seen worse museum art. (although; I know nothing about being an art critic)

Ditto.

I'm an art major, and these pieces are nothing compared to the garbage out there in museums like The Tate. A number of them I can't see what's bad about them--art doesn't have to be realistic. What makes a Picasso's wonky perspective any better than #4?

On a technical level, I don't see anything wrong with the Bruce Lee painting--it's not much more classy than a velvet Elvis though.

No, you want to see weapons-grade junk, you look up Mark Rothko, Yves Klein, Cy Twombly--people like that.

Paul Beardsley
2011-Sep-14, 09:18 PM
I, too, got an art degree, and I, too, am bewildered as to why these were singled out. I didn't like the Bruce Lee, but most of the others had a certain something - in the good sense!

Fazor
2011-Sep-14, 09:29 PM
I, too, got an art degree, and I, too, am bewildered as to why these were singled out. I didn't like the Bruce Lee, but most of the others had a certain something - in the good sense!

Why I found the whole thing yawn-worthy is that most (all?) of these are just hobbyist artists drawings. It's sort of like creating a list titled "Worst Architectural Designs EVER!" and then filling it with photos of children's LEGO creations.

ETA: Oh, and WRT to the Bruce Lee painting. It's certainly not my taste, but it's technically superior to LOTS of "professional" paintings I've seen.

Jim
2011-Sep-15, 12:11 PM
No, you want to see weapons-grade junk, you look up Mark Rothko, Yves Klein, Cy Twombly--people like that.

Actually, Cy Twombly is my son's favorite. There's a Twombly museum (http://www.menil.org/collection/CyTwomblyInDepth.php) here - across from and part of the Menil (http://www.menil.org/) - and I really enjoy some of his work.

As for Rothko, the Rothko Chapel (http://www.rothkochapel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=6) - inspired by his works - is just down the street from the Menil and Twombly (and was funded by the de Menil's) and it's a beautiful place.

All three are free; you should come visit.

Buttercup
2011-Sep-15, 01:05 PM
You know what though? There's a few that I sort of like. The On a Windy Day painting I find absolutely charming. Yeah, the perspective and the proportion are all wrong. But I think it has a wonderful "illustrated children's book" feel. It might not be good in the technical sense, but I like looking at it. To me, that's the important part.

And that's what makes art such a subjective thing.

Agreed. Of all of them, it's my favorite -- for the reason you stated ("illustrated children's book feel"). It is whimsical. :)

As for the Bruce Lee painting, it might have worked on black canvas.

grapes
2011-Sep-15, 01:22 PM
Actually, Cy Twombly is my son's favorite. There's a Twombly museum (http://www.menil.org/collection/CyTwomblyInDepth.php) here - across from and part of the Menil (http://www.menil.org/) - and I really enjoy some of his work.Also free of charge?

SkepticJ
2011-Sep-15, 02:31 PM
. . . and I really enjoy some of his work.

I could sell you the sheets of paper I clean my brushes off on, and get the technical pens' ink flowing with, if you'd like them.

Jim
2011-Sep-15, 04:22 PM
Also free of charge?

Yes.

captain swoop
2011-Sep-15, 04:42 PM
I like Rothko and Klein

SkepticJ
2011-Sep-15, 09:20 PM
I like Rothko and Klein

. . . why?

Rothko - boxes and stripes of color.

Klein - painted stuff in blue, in a shade of blue which I don't think he should actually be given credit for*.

He did get nubile women to take their clothes off, cover themselves in paint, and roll against things. Well done, sir, well done.

*He didn't invent ultramarine pigment, he didn't invent the polyvinyl acetate medium that binds it to surfaces, and he worked with chemists to develop it--which means they did the recognitionless geek-work that makes it possible. It should be called International Poindexter Blue.

Lord Jubjub
2011-Sep-16, 02:50 AM
You know what though? There's a few that I sort of like. The On a Windy Day painting I find absolutely charming. Yeah, the perspective and the proportion are all wrong. But I think it has a wonderful "illustrated children's book" feel. It might not be good in the technical sense, but I like looking at it. To me, that's the important part.

And that's what makes art such a subjective thing.

I'll will agree with you with every point and I'd be willing to part with a c-note or two to have that hanging on my wall.

grapes
2011-Sep-16, 04:52 AM
I'll will agree with you with every point and I'd be willing to part with a c-note or two to have that hanging on my wall.Is that because it's been certified, or because you like it? 'Cause for $200, I can do that. :)

Or, at least, get it done.

Jim
2011-Sep-16, 11:57 AM
$200. Pretty good profit, grapes, considering the Paint By Numbers kit is, what, $6.95?

Ilya
2011-Sep-16, 01:02 PM
You know what though? There's a few that I sort of like. The On a Windy Day painting I find absolutely charming. Yeah, the perspective and the proportion are all wrong. But I think it has a wonderful "illustrated children's book" feel. It might not be good in the technical sense, but I like looking at it. To me, that's the important part.

Yes, it could work as an illustration in a children's book. I certainly had seen worse.

And I actually like "Flying Forks"

Paul Beardsley
2011-Sep-16, 01:12 PM
$200. Pretty good profit, grapes, considering the Paint By Numbers kit is, what, $6.95?

Yeah, like you could keep the colours on the same side of the line!

;)

starcanuck64
2011-Sep-16, 04:49 PM
Why I found the whole thing yawn-worthy is that most (all?) of these are just hobbyist artists drawings. It's sort of like creating a list titled "Worst Architectural Designs EVER!" and then filling it with photos of children's LEGO creations.

ETA: Oh, and WRT to the Bruce Lee painting. It's certainly not my taste, but it's technically superior to LOTS of "professional" paintings I've seen.

IIRC one of the criteria for art pieces ending up on MOBA is that they were intended as serious works by the artist...

Some of the artist have pretty good technique but their subject matter may be a little bizarre:

http://www.museumofbadart.org/coll1/image02.php

http://www.museumofbadart.org/coll1/image11.php

NEOWatcher
2011-Sep-16, 07:39 PM
IIRC one of the criteria for art pieces ending up on MOBA is that they were intended as serious works by the artist...
But some of those pieces were yanked out of the garbage. How do they know what the intention was?
Besides, I'm sure many bad hobbyists intend to be serious about the work of thier hobby.




Some of the artist have pretty good technique but their subject matter may be a little bizarre:
Unless you know the joke.
I saw this one on thier site: 2-Terrapin pyramid (http://www.museumofbadart.org/collection/recent09.php)
Although I wonder if the artist knows the joke.

grapes
2011-Sep-17, 11:24 AM
Unless you know the joke.
I saw this one on thier site: 2-Terrapin pyramid (http://www.museumofbadart.org/collection/recent09.php)
Although I wonder if the artist knows the joke.Artist? Isn't that just a cute photo of someone's pets?

ETA: And what's the joke? :)

TJMac
2011-Sep-17, 01:08 PM
I will cheerfully admit my absolute and utter ignorance about art. It was proven in high school that I am incapable of making art, and probably incapable of judging it too.

I see "masterpieces" that just make me think, hmm, its a nice painting, but I don't get why it's special. (Mona Lisa?) I see Picasso, and I actually like some of his stuff, but I don't know how its better than other LSD induced visions put on canvas. (joke, I think :lol: )

I see stuff I like, and want to own, but I don't know that means it's any good.

A few of those I thought were amusing. I kind of liked the one of the clown that starcanuck64 linked to. I wonder if that says something about me.

TJ

TJMac
2011-Sep-17, 01:11 PM
Artist? Isn't that just a cute photo of someone's pets?

ETA: And what's the joke? :)

Only joke that comes to my mind is... It's Turtles ALL the way DOWN. Don't know if that's what was meant or not. :think:

TJ

starcanuck64
2011-Sep-17, 05:11 PM
But some of those pieces were yanked out of the garbage. How do they know what the intention was?
Besides, I'm sure many bad hobbyists intend to be serious about the work of thier hobby.




Unless you know the joke.
I saw this one on thier site: 2-Terrapin pyramid (http://www.museumofbadart.org/collection/recent09.php)
Although I wonder if the artist knows the joke.

I'm going by an interview I heard on the radio with someone from MOBA about four or five years ago. I think they go by how much detail and effort the artist seems to go to. Some of the artists are talented but their composition, scale, perspective, color etc... are just a bit off. Art is subjective but there's a range within most people are going to find something appealing.

Acrobatic turtles is kind of funny.:)

Fazor
2011-Sep-18, 01:21 AM
I see "masterpieces" that just make me think, hmm, its a nice painting, but I don't get why it's special. (Mona Lisa?) I see Picasso, and I actually like some of his stuff, but I don't know how its better than other LSD induced visions put on canvas. (joke, I think :lol: )

No, Picaso is more of the "This is what you see if you've had too many concussions" type artist. Salvador Dali's work is, quite literally, what happens when you mix paint and hallucinogens.

NEOWatcher
2011-Sep-19, 07:20 PM
Artist? Isn't that just a cute photo of someone's pets?
That's my opinion too. Why it's notable, I have no idea.


ETA: And what's the joke? :)
Like TJMac said. The first thing I thought of was turtles all the way down.