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aliensdidit
2011-Oct-23, 02:17 AM
I came across a really weird blog:

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/
http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/about/

Its very difficult to explain the content that is presented on this blog. Think of it as a mix of New Age, Conspiracy, Earth changes, aliens and UFOs ect. I will also say that this and the other links do have connections to the whole 28th October 2011 and sites such as these:

http://oct282011.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHHZkUiRP30

The first external link starts of simple enough (at least): http://www.welcomethelight.com/

Now where it really gets crazy is that it links to lots of people claiming to be channeling to some aliens of somme sort of Galatic Federation. You think, I'm kidding. Just take a look at these

http://www.paoweb.com/gfmember.htm
http://www.galacticfriends.com/
http://www.galacticmessages.com/blog/
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattstory.htm

I can't tell which people are suppose to be the aliens that are watching over us and the people who claim they can channel them and send them messages. I have realized that if you type in some of these names into google that some of thenames seem to have aa history. But that just blrus the line of reality. I keep getting links to stories about dark cabals, alienships that are trying to get rid of siad cabal. Earth changes that will happen on October 28th or next year. And even to thinks like NESARA. Which I have absolutly no idea what is it. I mean this link just summarise it all: http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/

If anyone one knows what the [heck] I am talking about. It would be great if you could decipher all of this becase at the moment its like some great big bowl of crazy.

Middenrat
2011-Oct-23, 03:18 AM
I'm afraid that clicking through these links only serves to strengthen the delusions of the blogger, who appears to have no grasp of reality.
The more hits received, the deeper goes the psychosis for the unfortunate nut job.
If quasi-religious la-la jottings were reliable dope, this chap would have the Pulitzer.
I hope my feelings are coming across regarding the content. It's not even good fiction.

Solfe
2011-Oct-23, 04:18 AM
Oh, the bad little boy in me urges all of you to click those links and visit that page daily.

This is the same vein of me begging the BAUTForum to write a book "proving" the existence of Nibiru... for fun and profit.

Van Rijn
2011-Oct-23, 04:31 AM
If anyone one knows what the [heck] I am talking about. It would be great if you could decipher all of this becase at the moment its like some great big bowl of crazy.

What are we supposed to decipher? Sorry, but I don't understand the point of looking at websites that are, as you say, "like some great big bowl of crazy." Some people make bizarre claims. So what?

Paul Beardsley
2011-Oct-23, 05:41 AM
Some people talk rubbish. Should we take them more seriously just because they're doing it on the internet?

aliensdidit
2011-Oct-23, 11:49 AM
Its not that I have never heard of people claiming to channel aliens and all that stuff. But this seems to to have been just crancked up all the way to 11

Nowhere Man
2011-Oct-23, 12:33 PM
I daren't visit your links, for fear of my own IQ points, but this is probably the equivalent of a deranged person standing on a soapbox in Hyde Park (or some such public area), ranting on about space aliens in your breakfast cereal. The fact that it's "cranked all the way up to 11" does not make it any more valid or true.

For comparison purposes, is the level of crazy higher or lower than that found in Time Cube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_cube)? (Wikipedia link; you can find the real site from there.)

Fred

Cougar
2011-Oct-23, 02:09 PM
It would be great if you could decipher all of this...

Garbage in, garbage out.

LaurelHS
2011-Oct-23, 02:46 PM
Are you repeating your claims from this closed thread for any particular reason, Aliensdidit?
http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/122018-Is-a-major-event-end-of-mayan-calender-about-to-happen-on-October-28th/page2

aliensdidit
2011-Oct-23, 05:15 PM
Well not really, its just I found these sites after the whole thing in the other thread.

People keep using the Timecube cliche (to be honest after what I have seen in the ast couple of months, Timecube ssems normal) but at least you know to an extent what it is. These website are a whole different level. I mean check out the Galatic federation of Light. Chech out the name SuLaSa and Mike Quinsey.. Is it the actual alien or the person just channeling them?

Paul Beardsley
2011-Oct-23, 05:36 PM
I mean check out the Galatic federation of Light.

Why?


Chech out the name SuLaSa and Mike Quinsey..

Why?


Is it the actual alien or the person just channeling them?

Well I suppose it must be one or the other. It's not like there could be a third possibility... or could there?

aliensdidit
2011-Oct-23, 08:39 PM
Ok, here is a post from one of the blogs, I'm not sure whether the original blog I linked also claims to have contacts with aliens, but this post mmight give a hint:

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/a-message/


This has just started to come through. Did not expect anything tonight, as it is late here. But here it goes.

覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧

Welcome, to those who come from the stars.
Welcome, also to those who come from Inner Gaia.
Welcome, also to those who have no idea about these things

You are all participating in a massive undertaking, we call it, as it is larger than any that this planet has encountered. Please be honored that you are partaking in this. It is your Light and your focused Intention which is the most value to us.

Very soon events begin to happen which for some will be more startling and shocking than even the event you call 9-11″. These transformative points in time are to be encountered in rapid succession. This first wave of events will be followed by a second wave, and prior to the end of the so-called Calleman calendar, you will have passed through the third and a fourth. Each wave continues increasing in disruption of all old consciousness patterns, until October 28th when all of this old system will have been dissolved.

Those who try to hold tightly to the old system will quickly see there is nothing familiar left to hold to. It will be shocking and so disruptive to some people痴 consciousness that they will choose to leave this planet. No one may 都urvive the new revelations and changes upon planet Earth unless they release all grasp to every single idea which they formerly held.

Remain unattached and you will be fine. And rise above the chaotic nodes. In fact, many will thrive, although not in a monetary sense, which is fortunate for them, as there will be none of the monetary system of old on which to hold. A transitional period of we would say in your time frame of 3 weeks will be required to emplace the so-called new system of finance, which will in itself be a transitional system.

We suggest that each one search within for their individual guidance for proceeding through the first transitional period. Follow not the fear-guides (there will be many most will ask for money), but follow the path of peace and joy and collaboration within the local community.

We honor each of you, and we are here for you. Please call upon us, as your Higher Guides, to guide in these soon to come times. You will be well.

And I guess it links things like this:

http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/breaking-astral-news/aspecialinterviewwiththearcturiansthecountdownhasb egun
http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/breaking-astral-news/theultimatescientificprooffortheaccuracyoftheascen sion-dateatthestargate111111
(By the way, are Stargate devices actually possible?)

I know that some people have claimed that they have made contact with aliens or even gotten messages from them. But is the Internet actually full of these people, how deep does the whole go? For example you know I mentioned something called the Galatic federation. Well these people really have brought these up. Have a group of people who take the messages and even have some sort of category system:

http://www.paoweb.com/index.html
http://www.paoweb.com/gfmarctu.htm
http://gfbymikequinsey.blogspot.com/

Strange
2011-Oct-23, 08:54 PM
I came across a really weird blog

Anyone can go to http://wordpress.com/, sign up and create a blog saying anything at all. Does that make it true?

Oh look: http://aliensdidit.wordpress.com/

aliensdidit
2011-Oct-23, 09:00 PM
Alsso something interesting iss this character called "SaLuSa". I don't know what it is apart from this page http://camelotforum.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=56&id=3839&Itemid=164. But he or she posts messages that are guiding humanity as indicated by this web page:

http://stevebeckow.com/2011/10/salusa-2012-for-beginners-repost/
And here are the messages:
http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm

How common is it on the internet to find these things?

LaurelHS
2011-Oct-23, 09:22 PM
Depends how much time you spend looking for them.

Strange
2011-Oct-23, 09:23 PM
http://stevebeckow.com/2011/10/salusa-2012-for-beginners-repost/

I was amused by this:

The “coming announcement about our existence” refers to the imminent disclosure of the reality of UFOs and our space family, probably by President Barrack Obama, on a date which no one can predict.

Obviously not a complete idiot then. Doesn't want to fall into the usual problem of "prophets" having to keep changing the date of their "predictions" when nothing happens. 'Cos that can be so bad for your credibility!

LaurelHS
2011-Oct-23, 09:25 PM
Spelling the President's name wrong really helps their credibility.

Swift
2011-Oct-23, 09:30 PM
How common is it on the internet to find these things?
Extremely. The ratio of nonsense to sense on the Internet is extremely high and without any effort at all one can find all kinds of garbage. Some of it is people who actually believe the nonsense, some are people pulling fast ones or pranks or jokes, some are trying to sell something.

Ok, now I'm going to put on my moderators hat...

aliensdidit - You are falling into a kind of behavior you were warned about before. You go searching the Internet, find some weird thing, post a link with a "what about this!!!!" comment, and then when people bother to check out the link and give you some information, you basically ignore them and just post some other "what about this!!!!!" link.

I understand you go get alarmed by this stuff, but this is not acceptable behavior on BAUT. You can not spam BAUT with every single stupid website and ask us to analyze it for you. At a minimum, you actually have to participate in the conversation about each one. And, if you argue with people about what they tell you, by ignoring what they say and posting another link with more nonsense, then you are advocating these ATM ideas and will be held to the rules of the ATM and CT forums.

You will need to figure out some way to get this behavior under control.

I will leave this thread here, for the moment, but if you continue this behavior, we will have to move it to the CT forum.

Van Rijn
2011-Oct-23, 09:50 PM
How common is it on the internet to find these things?

Very common. It was common before the internet existed too, but it's much easier to find stuff with internet search utilities, and much easier for people to start these things as well. Many claims are mutually contradictory, often based on one or another religion or with some fantasy, horror, or science fiction notion.

But as I said before, some people make bizarre claims. So what?

Seriously, I'd like to hear just why you are going out of your way to find these sites. What's the point of looking at these things?

Van Rijn
2011-Oct-23, 10:03 PM
(By the way, are Stargate devices actually possible?)


A suggestion: Look this one up yourself. If you still aren't sure of the answer after you've researched it, post your research and your *specific* questions. I'm willing to help with questions like this, but only if I see you've honestly attempted research yourself, and that you are willing to listen to the answers.

Frankly, your posts suggest that you need to learn to take a more skeptical view and develop your own fact checking skills. This would be a good place to start.

aliensdidit
2011-Oct-23, 11:11 PM
Oh its a long long story, and its not because I believe in these things. Its very hard to explain but I will give it a go.

I guess you could say that before a couple of months ago I was quite the skeptic myself when it came to things like the paranormal, aliens/ufo, conspiracies. I used to love watching Penn an Teller's language and did visit sites like the Skeptic's dictionary, Rationalwiki ect. But guess I had some subconscious fear. What if some of these things were true, somethings that would shatter are current perception of the world. I do genially fear that maybe one day will come. Like UFO disclosure, ancient alien theory (such as that upcoming documentary as shown here http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/122018-Is-a-major-event-end-of-mayan-calender-about-to-happen-on-October-28th?highlight=et+mayan). But I digress.

So I was all happy, not really caring about any of the stuff until something happened. Its a long story but basically when the attacks in Norway happened I accidently came across something that would start my spiral and completely warp my perception of thinking and critical thought. Basically there was this joke website that had a map of the USA in a planned nuclear attack (information here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLuBJ5XqeSA, http://usahitman.com/future-attacks/, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread731913/pg1, http://www.quofataferunt.com/index.php (where it was created)), which led to me finding this website that completely turned my views on the Illuminati upside down (http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/, and they really emphasis us using skeptical thinking, philosophy, Science ect which makes it even more mind warping) and a whole bunch of things that I never knew existed before on the Internet, things that I thought were kept in the realms of entertainment and fiction. I can't go through all of it, but I sent Strange a PM a week ago that showed some of it. Basically things like an occult group that actively want the end of the world to come, produce babies that will activate the triple helix and become the anti-christ, open stargates to let ET gods clean the earth ect. To me it was really scary and I got completely drawn into things like this http://www.lucifersweb.de/, http://www.youtube.com/user/SANGRAILIAN1. And when I think I have gotten over it when I stuff this down someone’s face, another thing pops up and I get nervous about that and spend days finding all the bits and bobs on it to try and create a rational conclusion. If its not the above then its the whole David Anderson, Peter Moon and books by Radu Cinemar with the Romanian caves, hall of records, freemason conspiracy ect.

What I am saying is that I have never really delved into deep critical thinking skills. And all the skeptical websites that I have seen only delve into things like how that UFO picture is not an alien spaceship. Or how to avoid alternative medicine products. Never have I seen people analyse things as all of the above. And because those things have warped my mind I get desperate to find answers. Thats why I might come out as naive or annoying. Or a troll or someone who believes in all of this. But I'm not. I'm just a person entering University that has anxieties about the world around me. I can't think skeptically anymore because I don't know what to think. I know that when I post all of those topics on these forums that I'm just a troll, but I really do have deep questions about them and its not because I actively search for them, they just pop up. 2011 has been a strange year for that for me, before that I had never known these things were on the internet. For instants with these websites:

http://oct282011.com/
http://www.mortis.com.br/
http://anniesroad.com/

You might just shrug them off. And for me a few months ago that might be the same. But now I can't help but do some intense research to find out what is going on and to try and calm down my fears. Seriously some of the stuff I have seen is just freaky and disturbing. Occult practices, unthinkable conspiracies, dark arts, countdown timers with hardly any meaning, child abuse and ritual to bring forth the anti-christ, detailed books like the ones promoted by Radu Cinemar and Peter Moon and everything associated with, David Anderson and the whole time control technology. Things I had never known or thought ever to exist on the internet. You might laugh at that but for n 18 year old this is all new to me. I have lived; I guess you can say a boring life. And this has all hit me like a ton of bricks. Its been cranked up to 11 and we are no longer in Kansas. Thats why I keep posting these things up. Its no longer about simple UFO sightings or the whole Illuminati are rulers of the world conspiracy. This is some deep and freaky language.

Sorry for the long post, I had to get that out. And sorry about the spelling mistakes. I don't want to spend ages proof reading this as I have to get up early for a lecture early in the morning. You might find it pathetic but it is effecting my studies but I find it hard to break out of this cycle. Its actually much better then a couple of weeks ago. Now that I have joined clubs and societies I am more activities. But these things still linger in my mind unfortunately.

EDIT: And about the whole thing about how I don't listen to people's answers. At the rist at sounding whiney and ignorant, its not that I don't listen, its just that there is so much that I have seen and want to talk about that may be connected that I quickkly move onto something that is connected to the answer you have given or something a bit different. The problems of a fractured and confused mind.

Noclevername
2011-Oct-24, 12:20 AM
This sudden fear out of nowhere sounds like an ongoing anxiety, maybe associated with leaving home for the first time. If you can avoid going online (except BAUT, of course!) you'll probably find something less scary to concentrate on. I'm not a therapist, but perhaps you should get in touch with a counselor or someone to help you deal with these fears.

aliensdidit
2011-Oct-24, 12:39 AM
I guess the problem is that it never really hit me on how big the Internet is. I just recentl came across something called the Deepweb, or the Darkweb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Web

And it just makes me wonder how many websites lik this: http://www.mortis.com.br/ are in there Or other websites with countdown timers to things like nuclear war. Or groups practicing occult magic to bring demons. Or the actual plans of a great conspiracy. I know it all sounds stupid but that is what I feel like now, especially after seing the websites in the other post.

HenrikOlsen
2011-Oct-24, 12:40 AM
Anyone can go to http://wordpress.com/, sign up and create a blog saying anything at all. Does that make it true?

Oh look: http://aliensdidit.wordpress.com/
I see what you did there. Nasty.

Noclevername
2011-Oct-24, 12:44 AM
I guess the problem is that it never really hit me on how big the Internet is. I just recentl came across something called the Deepweb, or the Darkweb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Web

And it just makes me wonder how many websites lik this: http://www.mortis.com.br/ are in there Or other websites with countdown timers to things like nuclear war. Or groups practicing occult magic to bring demons. Or the actual plans of a great conspiracy. I know it all sounds stupid but that is what I feel like now, especially after seing the websites in the other post.
You don't walk out of a horror movie being afraid that Jason or Freddie Kruger or that puppet guy from Saw are really out there, do you? That's all it is, people's imaginations splayed out on an open communication network with no quality control.

LaurelHS
2011-Oct-24, 01:19 AM
I guess the problem is that it never really hit me on how big the Internet is. I just recentl came across something called the Deepweb, or the Darkweb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Web

And it just makes me wonder how many websites lik this: http://www.mortis.com.br/ are in there Or other websites with countdown timers to things like nuclear war. Or groups practicing occult magic to bring demons. Or the actual plans of a great conspiracy. I know it all sounds stupid but that is what I feel like now, especially after seing the websites in the other post.
As long as you're browsing the Internet, have you looked at sites like alma-geddon.com (http://alma-geddon.com/) or A Brief History Of The Apocalypse (http://abhota.info/)? People have been making crazy predictions and starting ominous countdowns for centuries. Such people can get a wider audience now because of the Internet, but it doesn't make them any more credible than they used to be.

aliensdidit
2011-Oct-24, 01:35 AM
Buts its not just end of the world stuff. Its all kinds of stuff that I have explained in the above o=posts. Whether its UFO disclosure, conspiracy theories actually being true.

Swift
2011-Oct-24, 01:38 AM
Buts its not just end of the world stuff. Its all kinds of stuff that I have explained in the above o=posts. Whether its UFO disclosure, conspiracy theories actually being true.
And it is not just the end of the world stuff that people have been saying crazy things about for centuries.

As a kid/teenager in the 70s, Erich von D舅iken came out with his Chariots of the Gods ET/UFO books. As a kid, interested in space and such, I was initially interested in them, and they seemed to make some sense. But as I thought about them, they seemed less so, then I saw a PBS TV program, probably in the late 70s, that completely debunked his nonsense.

My point is, none of this stuff is new, it just gets spread around faster and easier on the Internet.

Noclevername
2011-Oct-24, 01:50 AM
aliensdidit, you best bet is to step back, take a deep breath, and quit immersing yourself in these sites. Go offline for a while, find something to do unplugged, and maybe as I suggested talk to someone about this anxiety. I know I had anxiety attacks for years without even knowing why I was having them; it wasn't until the underlying causes were diagnosed that I was able to get help.

Your fears may be of irrational things, but they are real emotions and come from somewhere. They have to be dealt with if you hope to put all these crackpot websites in perspective.

aliensdidit
2011-Oct-24, 01:57 AM
At the risk of soundding snobbish... Its just that from what I have seen this is a whole lot crazier and weirder then von Daniken and the rest. Like this is on a completly another level. I mean check out the whole Annie's road thing:

http://www.thefactsofvidya.co.uk/2011/02/annies-road.html
http://www.thefactsofvidya.co.uk/2011/02/annies-road-developments.html

Swift
2011-Oct-24, 02:05 AM
aliensdidit,

You completely ignored my advise in post # 18, about ignoring what people say and just spamming us with more and more links to stuff. People here are trying to help you and you are ignoring them. Well, sorry for your problems, but enough is enough. I'm closing this thread and giving you an infraction for not paying attention to what a moderator tells you.