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Trinity
2004-Jul-16, 02:57 AM
Let the commenting begin! (http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996151)

After I created this I realized it should probably be under General Astronomy...if a moderator would be so kind?

Gullible Jones
2004-Jul-16, 03:06 AM
Well, that's one we waited a while on! :D

Normandy6644
2004-Jul-16, 03:31 AM
Well, that's one we waited a while on! :D

Yeah but it seems like it might be worth it!

Taibak
2004-Jul-16, 03:36 AM
Well, taught my students about black holes today and warned them not to be surprised if everything I taught them today is considered wrong five years from now.

Looks like it won't take long.

01101001
2004-Jul-16, 04:30 AM
After I created this I realized it should probably be under General Astronomy...if a moderator would be so kind?
Well, it already has a thread there, Hawking will solve riddle of the black holes (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=15016), and a mention in the Black Hole FAQ (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=298714#298714).

soupdragon2
2004-Jul-17, 11:34 AM
Well, taught my students about black holes today and warned them not to be surprised if everything I taught them today is considered wrong five years from now.
I'd put good money on it!


After I created this I realized it should probably be under General Astronomy...if a moderator would be so kind?
I think this belongs on the ATM as it undermines M ideas.

In fact Hawking's revisions are now far more consistent with Plasma models, which are destined to rule the roost in the not too distant...

Gullible Jones
2004-Jul-17, 04:30 PM
*Groan*

I wouldn't exactly call this ATM. Black holes are not ATM material. (And before you say anything, please explain Cygnus X-1 without invoking perpetual motion...)

I also do not see how this, in any way, provides evidence either for or against the plasma model.

wedgebert
2004-Jul-17, 04:48 PM
In fact Hawking's revisions are now far more consistent with Plasma models, which are destined to rule the roost in the not too distant...

...alternate reality?

The only change I see in this is that black holes do not lose information. I don't see any way this could bolster the EU theories.

cable
2004-Jul-17, 04:55 PM
What means information ?
Is it data such as what's inside BH, when it was born, it's dimensions ?
Or may be I'm missing something ....