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Curiousaboutspace
2004-Jul-23, 03:09 PM
Hi,

I’m new to the board and I’ve been learning about space for the last few months and find it very interesting. I have however been a little curious about all the recent meteor sightings from around the World. I’d like to know if this is normal. I’m not sure about it all, but from what I’ve read, one or two or common a year but to have quiet a few fireballs blazing across American air space in only a few months is strange. And no mention of them in our media is a little disconcerting in my opinion. Are we going to get hit by anything else that could be bigger than the ones lately?

If you have a look at the news stories I’ve found, you will see what I mean. Any info would be great thanks.

Crashed meteor in Washington, on June 3rd, which made national headlines, http://www.goanacortes.com/articles/2004/06/09/news/news14.txt , which was reportedly the size of a baseball upon impact.

The following week, reports of a meteorite in New Zealand: http://www.inq7.net/brk/2004/jun/14/brkafp_2-1.htm which crashed through a home and nearly killed a child sitting on a couch.

A week later, reports of a meteor-strike in Australia, which according to several published news reports, was the size of a HOUSE. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9869458%255E421,00.html

Then on June 19th, a report from Missouri of a CAR-SIZED METEORITE, which received no coverage in the national media. http://freeinternetpress.com/article.pl?sid=04/06/20/0542230&mode=thread

June 20th, in Oklahoma, the Alva Review Courier runs a story which apparently can no longer be found on their site or anywhere else, of a FIREBALL which lit up the midnight sky. (Visit this link to see the article description on Google news, as well as a thumbnail pic of what appears to be a FIELD ALFAME WITH GLOWING FIRE. http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&e...i&q=la+fireball

Also on June 20th, in Seattle, WA, we have the report of an "unprecedented meteor shower" and multiple UFO sighting by Cliff Mickelson of Rumour Mill News. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=50825

June 28, 2004 Terang man rocked by drop-inBy JACLYN DENSLEY http://the.standard.net.au/articles/2004/06/28/1088274657543.html
Today In New Zealand News Residents Report Meteor 27/06/2004 12:07 PM NewstalkZB http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3882-3469666,00.html

Wednesday, June 30, 2004. 3:14pm Meteorite reported in southern WA
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200406/s1143829.htm
ALIEN ROCKS
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/180904_meteor06.html

A BURST OF METEORS OVER FINNISH COASTAL WATERS EARLY ON
Posted By: NASAGUY end E-Mail> Date: Tuesday, 13 July 2004, 9:16 a.m.
http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,6119,2-13-1443_1556905,00.html

MORE METEORS Date: Wednesday, 14 July 2004, 4:36 p.m.
More meteor showers over the past 24 hours. Here is a report of "a burst of meteor showers" over Finnish coastal waters. http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,6119,2-13-1443_1556905,00.html

DID A METEORITE STRIKE CENTRAL FLORIDA?
Posted By: Never_Surrender Date: Friday, 16 July 2004, 11:26 a.m. http://www.wesh.com/news/3537421/detail.html

SciFi Chick
2004-Jul-23, 03:28 PM
First of all, welcome to the board Curiousaboutspace.

Set your mind at ease. The reason you don't see much about it in the news media is because it is perfectly ordinary.

The reason is seems like a lot to you is because you're just now paying attention. :D

Curiousaboutspace
2004-Jul-23, 03:35 PM
First of all, welcome to the board Curiousaboutspace.

Set your mind at ease. The reason you don't see much about it in the news media is because it is perfectly ordinary.

The reason is seems like a lot to you is because you're just now paying attention. :D
Hi and thanks for the welcome!

when I have looked at various search engines for “recent comets, impacts etc” the stories are nearly all for the last two or three months. Not even one or two for last year. How come these have been caught on camera and are supposedly the size of houses and cars. Are these normal comet showers or could they be something else? No mention of sighting from last year or news stories.

PhantomWolf
2004-Jul-23, 03:43 PM
First off it is all but impossible to determine the size of a meteor from the ground. Australia's "house sized" one displyed nothing that would confirm that, leading to a size of no more than a baseball. The "Car sized" one comes from a scientist who was asked how big he thought it was based on the observations of others. He stated that it would be "no bigger than a small car." That doesn't mean it actually was.

The media is about sensationalism so they tend to make things sound exciting, even when they are pretty mundane. The reason there was a rash of reports in the media was that after the Washington one, they became news worthy, usually that aren't. There is a site that keeps track of them and IIRC they have about 30 sighting reported to them for last June, so honestly, it's nothing unusual.

[edited to add]

Also welcome to the board. :)

SciFi Chick
2004-Jul-23, 03:47 PM
when I have looked at various search engines for “recent comets, impacts etc” the stories are nearly all for the last two or three months. Not even one or two for last year. How come these have been caught on camera and are supposedly the size of houses and cars. Are these normal comet showers or could they be something else? No mention of sighting from last year or news stories.

Since you're looking for "recent comets, impacts etc", it seems logical that what would come up are recent - i.e., the last 2 or 3 months.

There are certain groups of meteors that the earth travels through on her orbit around the sun, every year. They are perfectly normal.

Here's a link from NASA (http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/space/solarsystem/meteors/Showers.html) that will give you more information.

Also, here's the link to the American Meteor Society (http://www.amsmeteors.org/index.html) that can give you even more info on just how ordinary these impacts are.

Curiousaboutspace
2004-Jul-23, 04:20 PM
when I have looked at various search engines for “recent comets, impacts etc” the stories are nearly all for the last two or three months. Not even one or two for last year. How come these have been caught on camera and are supposedly the size of houses and cars. Are these normal comet showers or could they be something else? No mention of sighting from last year or news stories.

Since you're looking for "recent comets, impacts etc", it seems logical that what would come up are recent - i.e., the last 2 or 3 months.

There are certain groups of meteors that the earth travels through on her orbit around the sun, every year. They are perfectly normal.

Here's a link from NASA (http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/space/solarsystem/meteors/Showers.html) that will give you more information.

Also, here's the link to the American Meteor Society (http://www.amsmeteors.org/index.html) that can give you even more info on just how ordinary these impacts are.

I didn’t just type ‘recent’ I just searched Asteroids/comets/comet strikes in general (all types of search term).

Interesting links you posted. Do you have a link to 2003-2004 meteor sightings or could you point me in the right direction?

But if you do the same type of search as me on say ‘google’ you will see that most of the comet sightings are for this year not last, irrelevant of the search terms.

Wolverine
2004-Jul-23, 07:02 PM
Also, here's the link to the American Meteor Society (http://www.amsmeteors.org/index.html) that can give you even more info on just how ordinary these impacts are.

Yeppers, that's a marvelous page. There's also a handy calendar here (http://comets.amsmeteors.org/meteors/calendar.html) which helps underscore just how common showers are. 8)

LunarOrbit
2004-Jul-23, 07:34 PM
I'm sure the number of meteors is no higher than normal, it's just that more people are reporting them. And the fact that more and more video cameras exist means more meteors are being caught on tape.

It's sort of like the misconception that crime is getting worse, despite the fact that statistics show otherwise. Just because more victims come forward to report crimes doesn't mean more crimes are being commited... it just means more people are willing to report them. For example, it might appear that spouse abuse is more common now than it was back in the 1950's... but maybe it just appears that way because more women are willing to report the abuse. Does that make sense?

Another example was the shark attack hype in the media a few years ago. There were actually fewer shark attacks that year, but because the media was reporting them more people thought there were more attacks than normal.

My point is that just because there are more reports of meteors doesn't mean more are hitting Earth.

Besides, when was the last time someone was injured or killed by a meteor? I'm sure many small ones hit the Earth's atmosphere every single day, and yet I don't think anyone has ever been seriously hurt.

Marjorie
2004-Jul-24, 05:27 PM
Meteors that hit the earth's atmosphere are very common, but isn't it rare for a rock of any size to penetrate the earth's atmosphere and actually hit the earth? When I followed the original poster's links, I was surprised at the number of cases in which this happened. How often do rocks actually strike the earth, not its atmosphere?

LunarOrbit
2004-Jul-25, 12:35 AM
It probably happens more often than we realize... the Earth is pretty big and much of it is not inhabited.

BAroxMysox
2004-Jul-26, 02:49 AM
A meteor the size of a house or car impacting the earth would leave a very noticable crater, and would leave no doubt that it hit. I don't imagine meteors hitting the earth is uncommon, but that they may just be overlooked or some such thing. Considering many probably land in any part of the unoccupied space here, like the ocean for example, they're probably not even known.

And as for Cliff and RMN... :roll:

David Mc
2004-Jul-26, 06:56 AM
For about a year I had a driving job to Minnesota from Kansas City. That gave me a good dark sky. Between about 2am to 4am it was not uncommon to see as many as four meteors (or chunks of our junk) streaking to Earth without really looking for them.

In fact, it was uncommon not to see at least one.