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milli360
2004-Aug-06, 02:22 PM
It's time for the next Astronomy Challenge! This is another Bricker quiz, like the first one (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=25730#25730), or the second one (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=6410), with similar rules. The previous challenges were in GA, but I have moved this one to BABBling. Only one answer per question, this time. Remember, some of these questions can have more than one right answer. Part of the game is to determine which "right" answer I am looking for--so this contest is all about me. It is sometimes deliberately deceptive, but I think anyone who finishes the quiz will learn something. I know I always do--sometimes I change my answers. :)


1. What year did the fiftieth star appear on the USAn flag?
2. What is the maximum latitude that can have the moon directly over head?
3. What automobile make is named after an asterism?
4. What day of the year has the worst time to see the Milky Way? (to nearest week)
5. What comes next in this sequence: Uranus, Neptune, Pluto?
6. Which gravity is stronger on the moon, the Sun's or the Earth's? (see question 6 of the first challenge)
7. To the nearest hundredth of a second, how long does it take the Earth to rotate? (see question 1 of the first challenge, or question 9 of the second one)
8. When was Io discovered? (to within ten years)

milli360
2004-Aug-06, 02:24 PM
1. 1950
2. 5
3. Solara
4. September 16
5. Sedna
6. Selena
7. 60 minutes
8. Seventeenth century

current scores
0 milli360

SeanF
2004-Aug-06, 03:43 PM
1. 1960
2. 28.5
3. Subaru
4. December 21?
5. Quaoar
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1610 AD

Eroica
2004-Aug-06, 04:14 PM
1. What year did the fiftieth star appear on the USAn flag?1960 (http://www.hollyday.com/hollyday/oldglory.htm)

2. What is the maximum latitude that can have the moon directly over head?28.58 degrees

3. What automobile make is named after an asterism?Suburu

4. What day of the year has the worst time to see the Milky Way? (to nearest week)23 December

5. What comes next in this sequence: Uranus, Neptune, Pluto? Quaoar

6. Which gravity is stronger on the moon, the Sun's or the Earth's? (see question 6 of the first challenge)The Sun's (178 times the Earth's)

7. To the nearest hundredth of a second, how long does it take the Earth to rotate? (see question 1 of the first challenge, or question 9 of the second one)86164.09 seconds

8. When was Io discovered? (to within ten years)1610

milli360
2004-Aug-06, 05:18 PM
current scores
5 SeanF
4 Eroica
0 milli360

I'm curious why you both answered question 4 the way you did.

PS: I am not taking off for spelling errors (hi Gethen)

Wally
2004-Aug-06, 05:43 PM
1. 1960
2. 27.03
3. Subaru
4. any "day" is the worst
5. Ort cloud
6. Earth's
7. 86164.06
8. 1610

milli360
2004-Aug-06, 06:05 PM
current scores
5 SeanF
4 Eroica
2 Wally
0 milli360

Normally, I wait for a couple posts before updating scores, but I'm going to be away for a while. Wally, how did you come up with your answer to number two?

PS: You all are invited to try again, even to crib off others entries.

gritmonger
2004-Aug-06, 06:19 PM
1. 1959
2. Same latitude as the Tropic of Capricorn or Cancer?
3. I have no clue - so, Subaru.
4.
5. Neptune
6. Sun's.
7.
8.

Brady Yoon
2004-Aug-06, 06:29 PM
1. 1960
2. Should be 23.5 degrees N, but since the Moon isn't perfectly on the ecliptic (5.2 degrees), 28.7??
3. Subaru
4. Wild guess: Mid November
5. Sedna (Trick question?)
6. The sun's gravity seems to be twice as strong. 330,000/(400)^2
7. 23 hr 56 min .04 seconds :D
8. 1610 I think.

Wally
2004-Aug-06, 06:30 PM
my answer to 2 came from a site that listed that as the max for this year. I'll try again. . .

1. 1960
2. 28.5 (just 'cause sean had sooo many right!)
3. Subaru
4. march 31
5. Ort cloud
6. Earth's
7. 86164.06
8. 1600-1620

milli360
2004-Aug-06, 07:22 PM
current scores
5 SeanF
4 Eroica
4 Brady Yoon
3 Wally
2 gritmonger
0 milli360

Very good answer to number five gritmonger! I would never have thought of that. :)

SeanF
2004-Aug-06, 07:51 PM
1. 1960
2. 28.5
3. Subaru
4. October 8th
5. and Beyond
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1610 AD

Bold are changed answers. :)

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 12:30 AM
current scores
5 SeanF
4 Eroica
4 Brady Yoon
3 Wally
2 gritmonger
0 milli360

I can see that there are at least two of these that are going to be trouble. Maybe I'll give some hints periodically. I know we're coming on the weekend, but I'd like to break the Challenge participation record, so give it a try, it can't hurt.

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 01:08 AM
1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees (how accurate do you want this?)
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Kuiper Belt
6. Sun
7. 86164.09 sec
8. 1610 AD

(shamelessly sponging off of SeanF)

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 01:14 AM
current scores
5 SeanF
4 Eroica
4 Brady Yoon
4 ToSeek
3 Wally
2 gritmonger
0 milli360

Nearest degree accuracy is enough, unfortunately.

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 01:24 AM
For those who want to look up previous challenges:

First one (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1929)

Second one (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=6410)

Candy
2004-Aug-07, 01:33 AM
1. 1960
2. 23.5
3. Subaru
4. February 1
5. Kuiper Belt
6. Sun
7. 86,400 seconds
8. 1610

Lycus
2004-Aug-07, 01:59 AM
1. What year did the fiftieth star appear on the USAn flag?
Trick question. Everybody knows that there are only 47 states.

4. What day of the year has the worst time to see the Milky Way? (to nearest week)
The day that the store ran out and I had to get a Twix instead.

5. What comes next in this sequence: Uranus, Neptune, Pluto?
I'll guess Dopey, but I don't remember a Disney character named Uranus.

7. To the nearest hundredth of a second, how long does it take the Earth to rotate? (see question 1 of the first challenge, or question 9 of the second one)
Exactly 1 day.

8. When was Io discovered? (to within ten years)
Captain Eo was discovered in 1986.

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 02:06 AM
Lycus:


7. To the nearest hundredth of a second, how long does it take the Earth to rotate? (see question 1 of the first challenge, or question 9 of the second one)
Exactly 1 day.
That was the same answer Candy gave. Unfortunately, also wrong. :)

current scores
5 SeanF
4 Eroica
4 Brady Yoon
4 ToSeek
3 Wally
3 Candy
2 gritmonger
0 Lycus
0 milli360

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 02:17 AM
First revision:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Kuiper Belt
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1610 AD

(Sponging even more off SeanF since he's ahead of me.)

Candy
2004-Aug-07, 03:12 AM
1. 1960
2. 23.5
3. Subaru
4. February 1
5. Kuiper Belt
6. Sun
7. 86,400 seconds
8. 1610

Second Try! 8-[
1. 1959 (unofficially)
2. 28.5
3. Taurus
4. October 27
5. Kuiper Belt
6. Sun
7. 23 h 56 m 4.1 s
8. 1610

earthman2110
2004-Aug-07, 04:09 AM
1. United States Adopted Names (USAN) Council doesnt have 50 stars on a flag.

2. 28.6

3. Subaru... but i think there was a Mr. Subaru, so i dont know

4. Any DAY is not good for trying to see the milky way. Try it at night, its much easier on the eyes

5. Charon

6. Earth

7. 23hr 56min 0.04 sec

8. 1610 A.D.

{edit for clarity]

Brady Yoon
2004-Aug-07, 05:40 AM
I'll start a mini quiz on my own.

1. Who discovered Ceres, and when?

2. What is the 2nd brightest globular cluster as seen from Earth?

3. In what constellations are the Large and Small Magellanic clouds in?

4. What's the brightest star in the Northern celestial sphere?

5. What are the largest and smallest constellations (modern borders)

6. What comet is the origin of the Leonids?

7. What is the name of the red dwarf star that will get closer than 1 ly in 1.4 million years?

8. Name the most luminous star within 1,000 ly.

9. Name 10 stars brighter than the one above.

10. How long are the sidereal and synodic periods of the moon, to the closest tenth of a day?

Fairly easy for you astronomy junkies here. :D

Eroica
2004-Aug-07, 07:16 AM
1. 1960
2. 29.1 degrees (Moon is half a degree wide!)
3. Subaru
4. December 23? (Sun is "in" the Milky Way in mid-December)
5. Charon
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec (sponging off SeanF)
8. 1610 AD

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 07:37 AM
current scores
6 ToSeek
5 SeanF
5 Eroica
4 Brady Yoon
4 Wally
2 Candy
2 gritmonger
2 earthman2110
0 Lycus
0 milli360

earthman2110 is leading in the Most Inventive Nitpick category with USAN, but in that vein I'm going to have to claim that there is a difference between 4.1 and 4.10--that was a tough one. I've already helped you out by the last "hints" but I can see by the spread on the 4th question that I should tell you what my criteria was there too--it was that the plane of the Milky Way would be close to the horizon at local midnight, and due to an error on my part I've had to go back and accept two posters's answers that I didn't before.

Candy
2004-Aug-07, 12:29 PM
I guess trying to think like Milli got me in trouble! :P
1. 1960
2. 28.5
3. Subaru
4. December 26
5. Planet X
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 secs
8. 1610

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 01:32 PM
current scores
6 ToSeek
5 SeanF
5 Eroica
5 Candy
4 Brady Yoon
4 Wally
2 gritmonger
2 earthman2110
0 Lycus
0 milli360

as another hint, I want to emphasize that my original answers (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=311682#311682) were completely wrong, so be careful about trying that

Parrothead
2004-Aug-07, 01:56 PM
1. 1960
2. 27.5 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 8 ?
5. Kuiper Belt
6. Sun
7. 86,164.09
8. 1610

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 05:15 PM
I've had to go back and accept two posters's answers that I didn't before.

I was wondering how I managed to go from 4 right to 6 right by only changing one answer.

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 05:20 PM
Second revision:

1. 1959
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Kuiper Belt
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1610 AD

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 05:22 PM
current scores
5 ToSeek
5 SeanF
5 Eroica
5 Candy
5 Parrothead
4 Brady Yoon
4 Wally
2 gritmonger
2 earthman2110
0 Lycus
0 milli360

Wally's and Parrothead's leaving off the units on question number 7 did not hurt them, but it would have had they had the right number. :)

There is one answer on which everyone agrees, so it seems that it has to be right, but it's not by Jove!

Candy
2004-Aug-07, 05:30 PM
4th try!

ToSeek, SeanF, Eroica, and myself all have 1, 3, 6-8 as the same, so I am guessing those are the right answers. Focus on 2, 4-5. :-k

1. 1960
2. 23.5
3. Subaru
4. Leapday
5. Kuiper Belt (my first choice)
6. Sun
7. 86164.10
8. 1610

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 05:58 PM
Third revision:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Kuiper Belt
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1990 AD

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 06:06 PM
current scores
6 ToSeek
5 SeanF
5 Eroica
5 Parrothead
4 Brady Yoon
4 Wally
3 Candy
2 gritmonger
2 earthman2110
0 Lycus
0 milli360

Since posting the quiz, I have given three hints, two of them about the same question

(Since it is so precise, I'm going to insist on the units in question 7. Also, ToSeek, you bolded number 8, but you also changed number 1, right?)

Candy
2004-Aug-07, 06:08 PM
Third revision:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Kuiper Belt
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1990 AD Dang, you are throwing in a possible wrench! Where's my Milli? 8-[

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 06:29 PM
Also, ToSeek, you bolded number 8, but you also changed number 1, right?)

Yes. Thanks for catching that.

Fourth revision:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Planet around Gliese 876 (http://www.obs-hp.fr/www/nouvelles/gl876.html)
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1865

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 06:32 PM
current scores
7 ToSeek
5 SeanF
5 Eroica
5 Parrothead
4 Brady Yoon
4 Wally
3 Candy
2 gritmonger
2 earthman2110
0 Lycus
0 milli360

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 06:36 PM
Fifth revision:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Mongo
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1865

Candy
2004-Aug-07, 08:00 PM
ToSeek is good!

5th try! - Milli is killing me!

1. 1960
2. 28.5
3. Subaru
4. April 1 (I have no idea how you got this!)
5. Planet X (or a 10th Planet in our Solar System)
6. Sun
7. 86164.10
8. 1865 (So what was in 1610?)

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 09:01 PM
current scores
7 ToSeek
6 Candy
5 SeanF
5 Eroica
5 Parrothead
4 Brady Yoon
4 Wally
2 gritmonger
2 earthman2110
0 Lycus
0 milli360

I guess if you count my explanation about question 4 as a hint, then I have given four hints. (You left off the units, again)

Candy
2004-Aug-07, 09:22 PM
6th try (dubbed the process of elimination)! Oh yeah, I got your unit! :lol:

1. 1960 AD
2. 28.5 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Planet X (or a 10th Planet in our Solar System)
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 secs
8. 1865 AD

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 11:13 PM
ToSeek is good!

5th try! - Milli is killing me!

1. 1960
2. 28.5
3. Subaru
4. April 1 (I have no idea how you got this!)

I played around with Starry Night until I saw the Milky Way hugging the horizon.



5. Planet X (or a 10th Planet in our Solar System)


This is wrong, but I haven't a clue what's right. Quaoar isn't.



6. Sun
7. 86164.10
8. 1865 (So what was in 1610?)

1610 - Io the moon discovered
1865 - Io the asteroid discovered (http://www.uni-protokolle.de/Lexikon/Io_(Asteroid).html)

All we really have to do now is figure out which answer milli wants for #5, but I don't have any good ideas yet.

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 11:20 PM
current scores
7 ToSeek
7 Candy
5 SeanF
5 Eroica
5 Parrothead
4 Brady Yoon
4 Wally
2 gritmonger
2 earthman2110
0 Lycus
0 milli360

Maybe I'll give another hint if there's no movement. :)

Ut
2004-Aug-07, 11:21 PM
What about Varuna?

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 11:22 PM
Sixth revision:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Jupiter (based on the order in which they're currently lined up in the night sky)
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1865

milli360
2004-Aug-07, 11:28 PM
current scores
7 ToSeek
7 Candy
5 SeanF
5 Eroica
5 Parrothead
4 Brady Yoon
4 Wally
2 gritmonger
2 earthman2110
0 Lycus
0 Ut
0 milli360

ToSeek
2004-Aug-07, 11:37 PM
Seventh revision:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Mercury (something to do with temperature?)
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1865

Candy
2004-Aug-07, 11:38 PM
7th try!

1. 1960 AD
2. 28.5 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Neptune #-o [Pluto and Neptune paths change positions. Pluto is 8 right now, so Neptune comes next!]
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 secs
8. 1865 AD

milli360
2004-Aug-08, 12:20 AM
no change

you guys are probably going to hate me for this one, it's going to take some thinking outside the box--not that Neptune wasn't. I think it might have been the same reasoning as gritmonger, although Pluto went back to number nine a few years ago

Candy
2004-Aug-08, 12:23 AM
8th try!

1. 1960 AD
2. 28.5 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Taurus [Astrology!] :o
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 secs
8. 1865 AD

ToSeek
2004-Aug-08, 12:31 AM
you guys are probably going to hate me for this one

Going to? ;)

milli360
2004-Aug-08, 12:34 AM
LOL. OK, OK, if no one has guessed it by noon (EDT) on Monday, I'll post the answer to number five. And the winner will be whoever can explain why it is the answer. :)

ToSeek
2004-Aug-08, 12:37 AM
Eighth revision:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Earth (wrapping around from the last planet discovered to the first)
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1865

milli360
2004-Aug-08, 12:39 AM
These are some great answers, but no...not the ones I'm looking for. :cry:

ToSeek
2004-Aug-08, 12:45 AM
Ninth revision:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. Terra (Roman goddess of the Earth, completing the cycle: Uranus/sky, Neptune/sea, Pluto/underworld)
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1865

milli360
2004-Aug-08, 12:49 AM
Interesting reasoning, but no. You're in the right area though. It's on Earth.

Candy
2004-Aug-08, 12:54 AM
5. The 3 Magi

Lycus
2004-Aug-08, 01:02 AM
5) Mars. The fourth god destroyed by Xena, Warrior Princess. :P

scottmsg
2004-Aug-08, 01:06 AM
5 - America

From the periodic table of elements

92 - Uranium
93 - Neptunium
94 - Plutonium
95 - Americium

Candy
2004-Aug-08, 01:10 AM
5 - America

From the periodic table of elements

92 - Uranium
93 - Neptunium
94 - Plutonium
95 - Americium Dang it. I was looking for that! It's been so long since I took chemistry! I couldn't remember what to google. Dang it. I bet you are right! =D>

milli360
2004-Aug-08, 01:13 AM
current scores
7 ToSeek
7 Candy
5 SeanF
5 Eroica
5 Parrothead
4 Brady Yoon
4 Wally
2 gritmonger
2 earthman2110
1 scottmsg
0 Lycus
0 Ut
0 milli360

Congratulations guys, we exceeded last years participation level.

Candy
2004-Aug-08, 01:20 AM
Someone could still technically win, right? 8-[

Ut
2004-Aug-08, 01:20 AM
So, putting it all together, that makes:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. America
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1865

Candy
2004-Aug-08, 01:21 AM
So, putting it all together, that makes:

1. 1960
2. 28.57 degrees
3. Subaru
4. April 1
5. America
6. Sun
7. 86164.10 sec
8. 1865 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I was so tempted!

milli360
2004-Aug-08, 02:15 AM
Candy:
I was so tempted!
Ya shoulda!

We have a winner! Ut goes from zero to hero in one post, and captures the 3rd Annual Astronomy Challenge. Well played, folks. Good job, scottmsg , I'd like your help next year.

Answers:

1. What year did the fiftieth star appear on the USAn flag? A: 1960. Alaska and Hawaii both entered the US in 1959, but the 49th star was officially added July 4, 1959, and the 50th one year later.

2. What is the maximum latitude that can have the moon directly over head? A: 28 degrees, or so. I accepted everything from 27.5 to 29.5. The moon's orbit is tilted 5 degrees from the 23 1/2 degrees of the ecliptic. I'd thought I might be able to use some sort of "trick" answer like Wally's 27.03, but it looks to me like the moon will get over 28 degrees on Aug. 12 of this year.

3. What automobile make is named after an asterism? A: Subaru. It refers to the Pleides, in Japanese. I hadn't heard about a Mr. Subaru, but the asterism (not a constellation) is represented in their emblem.

4. What day of the year has the worst time to see the Milky Way? (to nearest week) A: Apr. 4, plus or minus 7 days. (I had been using +/- 3--what does "to the nearest week" really mean? :) ). My criteria was that the plane of the galaxy would match the horizon at midnight, so that it would be more difficult to see for most of the night--but my answer could be slightly off anyway.

5. What comes next in this sequence: Uranus, Neptune, Pluto? A: America. Chemical elements 92, 93, 94, and 95 are their namesakes, in order. The hint was the "periodically" next to my first "hints", a reference to the Periodic Table of the Elements (http://www.johnpratt.com/atomic/periodic.html).

6. Which gravity is stronger on the moon, the Sun's or the Earth's? (see question 6 of the first challenge) A: Sun's. This may be surprising to some, but the calculation is straightforward.

7. To the nearest hundredth of a second, how long does it take the Earth to rotate? (see question 1 of the first challenge, or question 9 of the second one) A: 86164.10 seconds. As I discussed in this thread (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3771).

8. When was Io discovered? (to within ten years) A: 1865. The asteroid Io (85 Io (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/85_Io)), not the moon of Jupiter, which was discovered in the seventeenth century (so my original answer is completely wrong). Also, "it's not by Jove," giddit? There is a list of more shared names on this webpage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_noteworthy_asteroids).

Let the cavilling begin!

Ut
2004-Aug-08, 02:46 AM
*cabbage patches*

Do I get a crown or something? Considering the only answers I didn't just straight up rob from others were 2 and 3, it'd better be a BIG crown! :P

milli360
2004-Aug-08, 05:45 AM
Prize details are listed in the OP of the first challenge (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=25730#25730). Let me know what time we eat.

Candy
2004-Aug-08, 07:33 AM
Milli, you can come to my house anytime for a meal, and not just in my dreams. :P

Eroica
2004-Aug-08, 09:33 AM
5. What comes next in this sequence: Uranus, Neptune, Pluto? A: America. Chemical elements 92, 93, 94, and 95 are their namesakes, in order. The hint was the "periodically" next to my first "hints", a reference to the Periodic Table of the Elements (http://www.johnpratt.com/atomic/periodic.html).

8. When was Io discovered? (to within ten years) A: 1865. The asteroid Io (85 Io (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/85_Io)), not the moon of Jupiter, which was discovered in the seventeenth century (so my original answer is completely wrong). Also, "it's not by Jove," giddit? There is a list of more shared names on this webpage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_noteworthy_asteroids)
These are my favourites. Of course, your hints were lost on me. :oops:

Ut
2004-Aug-08, 12:51 PM
I can live with that prize.
*cabbage patches some more*

milli360
2004-Aug-08, 01:21 PM
Eroica:
These are my favourites.
Yeah, until I stumbled on that in the periodic chart last week, I thought I might not run the challenge this year. As it was, I had two fewer questions than the last two times.

Plus, it pretty much "locks in" ol' Pluto. Sorry, SciFi Chick (http://www.loresinger.com/FWIS/viewtopic.php?p=4392&highlight=milli360+grapes#439 2). :)

Ut:
I can live with that prize.
*cabbage patches some more*
Sounds like we're having cole slaw.

SeanF
2004-Aug-09, 01:14 PM
I should really try and check in on the BABB over the weekends more often. :D

Congrats, Ut, and everybody!
=D>

Tobin Dax
2004-Aug-09, 10:47 PM
3. What automobile make is named after an asterism? A: Subaru. It refers to the Pleides, in Japanese. I hadn't heard about a Mr. Subaru, but the asterism (not a constellation) is represented in their emblem.
[snip]
Let the cavilling begin!

This is the only one that I don't really like. Since when is a cluster an asterism? Calling the Pleiades an asterism seems to me to be like calling Mizar and Alcor and asterism. They're two visually distinct shapes of stars, but they don't present a constellation-like shape. (I know M&A aren't a cluster, but they're visually separate in the sky.)

milli360
2004-Aug-10, 12:12 AM
Tobin Dax:
Since when is a cluster an asterism?
What definition of asterism are you using? Ame.Her.Dic. says it's "A cluster of stars smaller than a constellation."

Ut
2004-Aug-10, 02:30 AM
Pleiades, Hydriades, the Big Dipper, etc I think all count, under that definition.

milli360
2004-Aug-10, 11:30 AM
Pleiades, Hydriades, the Big Dipper, etc I think all count, under that definition.
Minus one for that. I googled on "hyades asterism" and it returned this list (http://www.maa.mhn.de/Maps/Const/asterism.html), but it does contain at least one non-asterism.

Candy
2004-Aug-10, 04:55 PM
Be careful, Milli, someone might want to kick your asterism. :wink:

milli360
2004-Aug-10, 05:00 PM
It's a fine line between the two

ToSeek
2004-Aug-10, 06:27 PM
Credit for the first correct answers to each question:

1. SeanF
2. SeanF
3. SeanF
4. Wally (after milli adjusted his parameters)
5. scottmsg
6. SeanF
7. SeanF
8. ToSeek

Candy
2004-Aug-10, 07:29 PM
Milli, where do you get your ideas from - for this contest? I really enjoyed participating. Thank you. I hope next year will be just as fun! =D>

Tobin Dax
2004-Aug-11, 05:04 AM
Tobin Dax:
Since when is a cluster an asterism?
What definition of asterism are you using? Ame.Her.Dic. says it's "A cluster of stars smaller than a constellation."

My own. 8-[ I stand corrected, but I will still not give that definition to 100-level students. :wink: