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cellularfossil
2012-Feb-19, 03:20 AM
When organisms died, their cells were sometimes fossilized in a process called pseudomorph replacement (ref. 1). In the process, fluids went into the cells and crystalized into atypical-formed minerals. Namely, the appearance and dimensions of the biological cells remain constant, but the original biological content was replaced by minerals (ref. 1,2,3). The growth of the minerals within the cells was limited by the forms of the cellular membranes. So, cellular fossils contain atypical forms of minerals, which did not conform to the crystal system of the minerals. The same process sometimes also happened on the molecular level and tissue level.
Ref. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudomorph
Ref. 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudomorph#Pseudomorph_in_other_fields
Ref. 3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystallization

Quotes from Ref. 1: “In mineralogy, a pseudomorph is a mineral or mineral compound that appears in an atypical form (crystal system), resulting from a substitution process in which the appearance and dimensions remain constant, but the original mineral is replaced by another.”

Qutoes from Ref. 2: “Pseudomorphs are also common in paleontology. Fossils are often formed by pseudomorphic replacement of the remains by mineral matter. Examples include petrified wood and pyritized gastropod shells.”

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Swift
2012-Feb-19, 04:17 AM
cellularfossil

I have removed the link from your post. I suspect that is your own website and you were just promoting it.

I also wonder what this thread has to do with Life in Space. I suspect you are promoting another Against The Mainstream (ATM) idea, like the thread you already have in the ATM forum. If that is the case, you better stop right now - the promotion of ATM ideas outside of ATM is against our rules, something you were told in your previous thread. If you do it again, you will be infracted.

cellularfossil
2012-Feb-19, 09:27 AM
Cellular fossils exist not only on Earth, but also in meteorites that originated from our moon and Mars. So, cellular fossils are biomarkers that prove life in space.

eburacum45
2012-Feb-20, 08:37 AM
No, they don't. No cellular fossils have been found in meteorites from the Moon; there are some interesting structures in one Martian meteorite, but they remain highly controversial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001
Other Martian meteorites also show promising features, but there is still no definite proof. I wouldn't be surprised if sample-and-return missions to Mars found similar evidence- no extant life, but abundant evidence that may point to a living past.

Unfortunately it seems difficult to prove whether these forms are biogenic at the moment; we may have to go there to find out. I'm all for that.

John Jaksich
2012-Feb-20, 10:53 PM
No, they don't. No cellular fossils have been found in meteorites from the Moon; there are some interesting structures in one Martian meteorite, but they remain highly controversial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001
Other Martian meteorites also show promising features, but there is still no definite proof. I wouldn't be surprised if sample-and-return missions to Mars found similar evidence- no extant life, but abundant evidence that may point to a living past.

Unfortunately it seems difficult to prove whether these forms are biogenic at the moment; we may have to go there to find out. I'm all for that.


I tend to second that notion--and even though there are noted (NASA scientists--Dr. R. Hoover, for one) who seems to believe that fossilized life has been found in Martian meteriorites---it's an Against the Mainstream argument IMHO

cellularfossil
2012-Feb-21, 10:48 AM
Some people said there is a conspiracy not to find life on Mars. I don't see it as
conspiracy. Some scientists seem unwilling to go on the fast lane. They would rather go slow and have fun in the funny park where laymen cannot argue with them about their blindness in groping the elements. Children can see a naked king with blood vessels and red blood cells. Experts cannot. Mars has been contaminated many times in many modern missions. Only Viking landers were sterilized. No other spacecraft on Mars were ever sterilized. They contaminated Mars with Earth bacteria. Humans visited Mars many times before the modern civilization. What living bacteria found on Mars could probably and simple just Earth contaminants. Why do scientists keep looking for living bacteria on Mars. A waste of time and money.

cellularfossil
2012-Feb-21, 10:50 AM
Rock guys' neurons:
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=29&f=1782982400&p=94
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=29&f=1782968645&p=95
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=lin440315&b=29&f=1782990763&p=96
Earthly nervous tissues for comparison:
http://www.occc.edu/biologylabs/documents/cells%20membranes/Nervous_tissue.htm http://aandpeasyaspanda.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/nervous-tissue.gif

Image source for Fig. 1: http://www.appstate.edu/~loveab/met.htm#gc1
Image source for Fig. 2: http://www.appstate.edu/~loveab/met.htm#gc2
Image source for Fig. 3: http://www.appstate.edu/~loveab/met.htm#gc4

Reference on neurons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuron

Swift
2012-Feb-21, 02:42 PM
cellularfossil

I told you to stop promoting your ATM ideas outside of ATM, especially when you already have a thread there on this topic. For ignoring moderator's instructions and promoting ATM outside of ATM, you get an infraction and this thread is closed.

Continue this discussion in your ATM thread (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/128423-Erroneous-News-Mars-Too-Dry-for-Life) or not on BAUT