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vonmazur
2012-Mar-05, 09:23 AM
Got this too, at 32nd street, the ATN RR running across the NS RR and going north to Gadsden...I am fascinated by trains running in the street, I do not know why, it is just so unusual to me...Of course this guy is headed south, to go east and then north...confusing eh??

Dale

Trebuchet
2012-Mar-05, 04:17 PM
How fast was he going? What time was it? I have to wonder what sort of restrictions they have on using that bit of track. I'm guessing it's in the wee hours only.

Nowhere Man
2012-Mar-06, 12:16 AM
Whereabouts is that? I'd like to see it in Google Maps.

Fred

Torsten
2012-Mar-06, 02:03 AM
Think I found it Fred.

Paste this into google maps:

Birmingham Alabama 32nd StS Powell Ave S

Just east of Sloss Furnaces.

Nowhere Man
2012-Mar-06, 05:29 AM
Ya, I think you're right. There are three crossings like that near that one intersection. Definitely a light industrial area. Nightttime traffic should be pretty light.

Fred

ravens_cry
2012-Mar-06, 05:57 AM
Why waste space building separate roads and tracks when you can combine them.
I agree it would look really weird at night though, as even in the day time Google Maps shots it is hard to make out the tracks.

vonmazur
2012-Mar-06, 08:27 AM
Guys: The location is 32nd Street and Powell Ave, what is left of it there..This RR has no timetable, the run when they have to, so I have seen them waiting for the signal in either direction, in stark daylight and in the wee hours as well....If one is sitting in automated gas station in the rear of this shot, one is stuck there until the train passes...

Sometimes the NS RR makes these guys wait for hours, especially if they are going to Birmingham from the east. This has led to blocked crossings and all sorts of trouble..I have seen this run, in the opposite direction, have to wait east of 41st Street, just to avoid this situation if they have a long train..(There are fewer and farther apart crossings east of this area, and a long stretch with no street crossings...)

The first shot is the tail end of the same train, with the conductor hanging on the rear car, he is there, but hard to discern...


The second shot is the NS mainline, looking east at 32nd Street, one can see the other railroad crossing the main line at this location..When trains pass this location, it is quite loud and lots of noise, as they cannot keep this crossing tamped properly with all the traffic...They have a more or less permanant speed restriction here, of about 15 MPH.



Dale

captain swoop
2012-Mar-06, 09:44 AM
Type 'Jack London Square' into Youtube and see amazing Street Running in Oakland.

Amtrak double deckers running up the middle of City Block and Double Headed Auto carrier trains.

Amazing stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki3QCZhacHY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSJUp_VDFjY&feature=related

BigDon
2012-Mar-09, 06:02 PM
Why waste space building separate roads and tracks when you can combine them.

'Cause it's also a good way to combine cars and trains?

BigDon
2012-Mar-09, 06:04 PM
Captain Swoop, that's because its Oakland.

The trains are afraid to go down the railroad tracks and use the well lit streets instead.

publiusr
2012-Mar-09, 10:48 PM
Just be careful in Texas. The metrorail there eats cars

http://www.ridemetro.org/Services/Rail.aspx

Not as bad as being hit by a freight train. I remember when Highway 79 had a train track there at the intersection with Vanderbilt just north of the Tallapoosa exit off I-59

Trebuchet
2012-Mar-10, 12:10 AM
There's a similar light rail system now in Tacoma, WA, which runs partly through the streets. I don't know if they've had any collisions with cars yet but one of the concerns is that the system is very quiet compared to a regular train.

BigDon
2012-Mar-10, 01:47 AM
Captain Swoop, that's because its Oakland.

The trains are afraid to go down the railroad tracks and use the well lit streets instead.

Oh, since you live on the far side of the world Capt, and might not know, us local people are wondering outloud at what point can your neighbors call in the California National Guard because the Gangers are shooting and killing people weekly ( in pairs at least!) on top of the Occupier "Alimentary Canal Termini" doing their primal angst outletting.

Gemini
2012-Mar-10, 02:17 AM
Speaking of things on roads that generally aren't: I remember when I went out to see the 787 land, I saw a sign while riding to viewing location (one of the General Aviation hangars) that read "Warning: Aircraft have right of way" right at that moment a CRJ200 taxied past our vehicle. It was just very surreal for me to be sharing driving space with aircraft.

vonmazur
2012-Mar-10, 04:39 AM
Just be careful in Texas. The metrorail there eats cars

http://www.ridemetro.org/Services/Rail.aspx

Not as bad as being hit by a freight train. I remember when Highway 79 had a train track there at the intersection with Vanderbilt just north of the Tallapoosa exit off I-59

"Birmingham Minerals Division No. 2" at one time, that branch ran all the way to Trussville. When the trains crossed the approach end of runway 36 at BHM, they had to have the Yardmaster at Boyles Yard call the FAA Tower operator to get permission!! Now I did witness that and watch as the train ran east to Gate City....

Added Image: This is a GE Image of the L&N RR branch mentioned....note the location of the former line, in blue, to the approach end of Runway 36 at BHM....This at the right lower edge of the image...

Dale

publiusr
2012-Mar-10, 06:27 PM
My Dad was a switchman at Boyles for years back when it was L&N, then Seaboard, then family lines, then Chessie (the cat) --now its CSX. That was going to be just a temporary name--but it stuck...

Hornblower
2012-Mar-11, 09:55 PM
Got this too, at 32nd street, the ATN RR running across the NS RR and going north to Gadsden...I am fascinated by trains running in the street, I do not know why, it is just so unusual to me...Of course this guy is headed south, to go east and then north...confusing eh??Dale

My bold. For an extreme example of a railroad running a winding route to deal with hilly terrain, see the famous Tehachapi Loop in California.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Tehachapi_Loop.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATSF_19870400_CA_Walong.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kluft-photo-aerial-Tehachapi-Loop-Sept-2009-Img_0214s.jpg

A sufficiently long train, though nominally eastbound or westbound, can literally run in all directions at once.