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elizabeth25
2012-Mar-09, 04:03 PM
For about 4 weeks now ive had terrible sinus pain, its really annoying, ive been to the doctors, but he wouldnt give me anything as he said it wouldnt help. ive tried breathing in vapour rub in a bowl of hot water, worked for a few hours at the most, does any one know anything that i could do or use that actually works?, ive heard that snorting warm salt water helps unblock it, but im not sure if i should try it, im fine in the morning but as the day progresses it starts coming back, it makes my eyes water, i keep sneezing, and a very annoying runny nose... please help. :(

Strange
2012-Mar-09, 04:12 PM
Last time I had bad sinusitis it took about a year to clear up. Ironically it finally went when I caught a cold. I went back to the doctors several times - saw a different person every time - they were all very sympathetic and recommended all sorts of things but said they probably wouldn't help much.

I found ibuprofen helpful for the pain and the inflammation (which is thought to be the cause). But they have a weird effect on me so I can't take them for long. Also Beconase spray (sold for hayfever) seemed to help - you can use this continuously for weeks without worrying (unlike decongestants, which only give temporary relief and can make things worse in the long run).

I tried the salt water thing - it does help a bit.

Breathing in steam and things did nothing for me.

Good luck.

Perikles
2012-Mar-09, 04:17 PM
I used to suffer in the UK until I moved somewhere warmer. At the time, I was married to someone who swore the snorting of salt water was the best answer, and she used to do it when it was necessary, and it appeared to be very effective for her. I tried it, and it was such an unpleasant sensation that I preferred the sinusitis. I don't think it would do any harm to try it, but I think you need a very specific kind of salt, and you should ask a chemist. Best of luck.

Swift
2012-Mar-09, 04:35 PM
I feel your pain, I've suffered from sinus problems since my teens.

I'm not sure what you mean by "snorting salt water". There are two different related things. One is the use of saline (salt water) sprays. They put a mist of salt water in your nose. Another is the so-called Neti Pot (you can google tons of stuff about them) where you actually rinse out your nose and sinuses with a stream of salt water.

I've used the sprays for years, particularly in the winter. The air in winter is very dry, and most heating systems make this even worse. For me (and many people) the dryness causes sinus problems, and using the sprays helps counter this by putting moisture in there. Even better is to use a humidifier; we use them at home and I have a small one in my office at work.

The Neti Pots are supposed to rinse allergents out of your nose and sinus and clear away mucus. I've never used one, they actually kind of freak me out (pouring water into your nose), but there are people who swear by them.

Along those lines, I find a hot shower is one of the best things - the heat and moisture help a lot. You might also try a warm-pack or towel on your face.

My personal big problem are allergies, particularly pollen. I use Claritin (an over-the-counter antihistamine) and Nasonex (a prescription spray that is actually an inhaled steroid and helps keep the passages open) and I use those daily. As needed, I take an over-the-counter pain killer and decongestant, for when I need that extra help (I happen to like Advil Cold & Sinus). I don't know if these are available in the UK. But you might want to try some of these over-the-counter (non-prescription) drugs.

I assume the doctor you went to is a General Practitioner. You might want to talk to a specialist, in the States they are called E-N-Ts, for Ear, Nose, and Throat. I went to one several years ago and she stated me on the Nasonex. She also suggested some surgery to open things up a little more, but I have decided not to try those yet.

Good luck.

Paul Beardsley
2012-Mar-09, 05:41 PM
I keep reading "Sinus" as "Sirius". I thought, why would anyone want Sirius help? Surely they know it's the really bright one!

On a more helpful note...


Also Beconase spray (sold for hayfever) seemed to help - you can use this continuously for weeks without worrying (unlike decongestants, which only give temporary relief and can make things worse in the long run).

I took Beconase for decades without ill effect, although I lost most of my sense of smell. Since I stopped taking it regularly a few years ago, I've found my sense of smell returning.


I assume the doctor you went to is a General Practitioner. You might want to talk to a specialist, in the States they are called E-N-Ts, for Ear, Nose, and Throat.

They are called that in the UK too.

Something nobody has mentioned - Olbas oil. You can put it on your pyjamas or sheets, or if you prefer put it on a tissue and hold it to your nose as required. It's actually rather pleasant, so even if it doesn't help, at least it isn't an ordeal.

I hope you get some relief, elizabeth25.

BigDon
2012-Mar-09, 05:49 PM
Do have that checked.

I know of two people who's sinusitus was caused by a metastasis. They followed your route and the outcome was not good in either case.

Perikles
2012-Mar-09, 07:07 PM
They are called that in the UK too..Yes, but only by those who cannot say otorhinolaryngologist. That is, most of the population including most of the specialists themselves. But seriously, that is what I would say (I'm seeing one next week, and he is an otorrinolaringólogo) and I suspect that is what they are called on the qualifications certificates adorning their walls.

redshifter
2012-Mar-09, 11:03 PM
If you have not already done so, definitely see a specialist. I had allergies for years/decades. Various medications became less effective over the years and my sinus's got worse and worse--gradually enough that I didn't realize how bad they really were; no sense of smell, always plugged, some drainage, and blowing my nose never did anything. Turns out I had a severe case of nasal polyps and a serious infection after seeing a specialist. My primary physician didn't know what the deal was.

The resolution involved surgery to remove the polyps and medication to kill the infection and reduce the inflammation. Then 4 yrs of allergy shots.

To clean out your sinus' you could try boiling 2 cups of water with a teaspoon of salt and baking soda. After the boiling water cools to a comforable temperature, you can get a squeeze bulb type of gizmo with a narrow end and squirt the solution in your sinus' to clean them out. I do this once a week or so.

closetgeek
2012-Mar-10, 01:01 AM
First and foremost, get a different doctor. There is no reason for you to be in that kind of pain and speaking from experience, it will only get worse. Second, are you allergic to anything? Is there anything in your house that could be setting allergies into overdrive?

elizabeth25
2012-Mar-11, 05:16 AM
Thanks for your help guys, i cant actually put things up my nose, it kind of freaks me out, but i will look into some of your remedies, i will definately try and switch doctors, but i went out friday night for a couple of drinks (vodka and redbull) and i actually feel ok now, ive had no problem with my sinus since friday night, so hopefully its clearing up.

Strange
2012-Mar-11, 10:09 AM
She also suggested some surgery to open things up a little more, but I have decided not to try those yet.

I was warned that that is often only a temporary fix and may need to be repeated.

The first time I had bad sinusitis, I had a GP who refused to recommend anything beyond sleeping with the window open (in the winter). It worked.

The second time I had a problem, I saw a specialist who couldn't find anything. After a few weeks I ran out of toothpaste and bought a different brand. The problem went away in a couple of days.

Solfe
2012-Mar-11, 02:16 PM
My favourite sinus remedy is a warm brandy snifter with the tiniest splash of warmed brandy. I find soaking a small shot of brandy in a bowl of hot water works pretty well.

As an alternative to brandy, I have also used very strong tea (in the snifter) with lemon and honey.

Find a comfortable place to sit an enjoy the aroma. Rewarm as needed.

(Personal warning - If smelling alcohol hurts, stop. Try tea and see another doctor.)

As far as the medicinal effectiveness, this can't be any better than being the shower or drinking hot tea (warm, moist air). The idea is you can read and watch TV while doing this. I find that tea is a nice treat when sick, but there is a practical point where I can't drink another drop.

Swift
2012-Mar-11, 04:20 PM
Originally Posted by Swift
She also suggested some surgery to open things up a little more, but I have decided not to try those yet.
I was warned that that is often only a temporary fix and may need to be repeated.

That is exactly what my GP said. I went to him for a second opinion after the ENT recommended the surgery and he said he has had exactly that with numerous patients. That's the prime reason I didn't do the surgery.


My favourite sinus remedy is a warm brandy snifter with the tiniest splash of warmed brandy. I find soaking a small shot of brandy in a bowl of hot water works pretty well.

As an alternative to brandy, I have also used very strong tea (in the snifter) with lemon and honey.

The brandy sounds very nice, though I actually find that alcohol is neutral to bad for my sinus problems. But a hot beverage does help. Coffee seems to work well - I think the caffeine also helps (in addition to the heat and moisture).

Swift
2012-Mar-11, 04:21 PM
Thanks for your help guys, i cant actually put things up my nose, it kind of freaks me out, but i will look into some of your remedies, i will definately try and switch doctors, but i went out friday night for a couple of drinks (vodka and redbull) and i actually feel ok now, ive had no problem with my sinus since friday night, so hopefully its clearing up.
I'm more of a rum and coke guy ;), but I'm glad you are feeling better.

Trebuchet
2012-Mar-11, 07:26 PM
Just one thing to add: Continued use of steroid nasal sprays (e.g. Nasacort) can lead to nose bleeds. Happened to me; I had to stop using it. I discovered my problem didn't get any worse when I stopped.

Luckmeister
2012-Mar-12, 12:21 AM
Thanks for your help guys, i cant actually put things up my nose, it kind of freaks me out, but i will look into some of your remedies, i will definately try and switch doctors, but i went out friday night for a couple of drinks (vodka and redbull) and i actually feel ok now, ive had no problem with my sinus since friday night, so hopefully its clearing up.

This is probably not the cause of your problem but I feel I should mention it. A few years ago, I got a sinus infection that wouldn't completely go away. My local walk-in clinic treated it with poor results. One day I went to my dentist for a regular checkup and he found an absessed tooth that was draining into a sinus cavity. He asked if I had recent sinus problems. I said, "yep." He said that was why. He pulled the tooth and closed the opening to my sinus. That solved the problem.

DoggerDan
2012-Mar-13, 11:01 AM
For about 4 weeks now ive had terrible sinus pain, its really annoying, ive been to the doctors, but he wouldnt give me anything as he said it wouldnt help. ive tried breathing in vapour rub in a bowl of hot water, worked for a few hours at the most, does any one know anything that i could do or use that actually works?, ive heard that snorting warm salt water helps unblock it, but im not sure if i should try it, im fine in the morning but as the day progresses it starts coming back, it makes my eyes water, i keep sneezing, and a very annoying runny nose... please help. :(

As a diver, sinus issues were employment killers, particularly in the mold-ridden south. At sea we were relatively free from shore-bound pollution, but countless problems existed on shore. My best recommendation is to take a vacation in the mountains, preferably before spring hits, and see how that sets. If your symptoms subside, it might very well be your environment. If not, then re-engage with your doctors.

elizabeth25
2012-Mar-13, 02:00 PM
Feeling so much better today, not had any problems since my night out, although i still have a runny nose, its less annoying now that my sinus pain has gone.
Im not a doctor, but a couple of shots of alcohol does the trick ;)