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Wally
2004-Oct-14, 03:26 PM
Some of you may recall this (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=198544&highlight=#198544) thread from last winter where we talked about the lego model of the Mars rover, where I mentioned how much I enjoyed putting it together. Well, Summer's over, so time to start another one!

For those who've been looking for a challenging, enjoyable, indoor hobby during the off-season, I can't recommend this enough. All the enjoyment one might get from assembling a model ship or plane, but w/out the messy glues and paints. Check out the statue of liberty (http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=3450) model kit you can buy. Or, for you S.W. fans, there's this (http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=10030&cn=57&d=14&t=7) big beast of a kit.

Mind you, the more advanced models are a bit pricey, but what the heck. It beats web surfing your way thru winter!

(and "no", I am in no way associated with the Lego company!) :)

BlueAnodizeAl
2004-Oct-14, 03:33 PM
Those a pretty cool, but I'm preparing for my own hobby winter with my Parkzone J-3 Cub electric RC plane (http://www.hobbytron.net/J-3-Cub.html). Those of us in warmer climates, when the winds die down in winter the weather is perfect for electric flying! This plane flies great in summer with a light breeze, I can't wait to practice some more when the weather is nice. It's a perfect little trainer, I've crashed it upwards of 20 or 30 times, bring it in on the wings and it'll cartwheel down the runway...retrieve it and it's ready to fly again with little or no damage.

Though Legos are good too, I'm hoping for a couple of kits from my wife for Christmas this year.

Nowhere Man
2004-Oct-14, 04:11 PM
My advice is, stay away from the Lego model of the Wright Flyer. The biggest problem with it (on mine, anyway) is that the spacing on the beige plates is just a tiny bit bigger than that on the brown plates ,two of which go under each wing. The result is that the beige plates are forced to curve and it's impossible to complete.

Fred

Wally
2004-Oct-14, 04:17 PM
Thanks for the tip Fred. I was eyeing those planes, and even just noticed they now have a kit which includes all 3 (sopwith, wright bros, red baron). I'll keep this in mind.

Swift
2004-Oct-14, 05:14 PM
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I was at a train festival this summer and they had a layout, easily 100+ square feet, that was all Lego. Very neat.

This (http://www.nmra.org/) is my kind of toy.

worzel
2004-Oct-14, 05:23 PM
I remember someone having a fully working clockwork clock made of meccano when I was a kid. I would love to get my hands on one now but can't find then anywhere. Does anyone know where I might find one?

sidmel
2004-Oct-14, 07:07 PM
I ran across this on ebay, has a lot of meccano packages, many of them in the UK

Ebay Meccanno kits (http://search.ebay.co.uk/meccano_Vintage-Pre-1980_W0QQsacategoryZ724QQsocolumnlayoutZ3QQsocompa recolumnlayoutZ1QQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsosortorder Z1QQsosortpropertyZ1)

and this looks like an interesting site:

http://www.btinternet.com/~a.esplen/mecc.htm

Wally
2004-Oct-14, 07:33 PM
8)
I was at a train festival this summer and they had a layout, easily 100+ square feet, that was all Lego. Very neat.

This (http://www.nmra.org/) is my kind of toy.

Oh man! I just wish I had the artistic ability (and the room, and $$$, and time. . .) to set up a beautiful model train layout. I've always been fascinated by them when I've seen 'em!

tjm220
2004-Oct-14, 09:20 PM
... Or, for you S.W. fans, there's this (http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=10030&cn=57&d=14&t=7) big beast of a kit...

I think this guy is an even bigger SW (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/1549) fan.

sarongsong
2005-Jan-27, 02:51 AM
" Thousands of children along with their families will click together more than half-a-million LEGO® bricks at LEGOLAND® California February 17-21, 2005, to break the Guinness World Record for the tallest LEGO tower ever built!...The current...Record...took four days to build reaching a height of 82 feet and was made of 391,478 LEGO bricks..."
http://tinyurl.com/5n8bm

Nicolas
2005-Jan-27, 09:39 AM
... Or, for you S.W. fans, there's this (http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=10030&cn=57&d=14&t=7) big beast of a kit...

I think this guy is an even bigger SW (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/1549) fan.

You know, I have that model as a 4 cm Micromachines thingy :D (and a rather exclusive one as it appears)

mid
2005-Jan-27, 10:33 AM
The latest model I have my eye on is the one on the back of the latest catalogue - it's an absolutely stunning version of the Ferrari Enzo.

If they did an F355 Spider, though, I'd already have bought it...

Moose
2005-Jan-27, 11:18 AM
Oh my goodness! A detailed Y-Wing (for $180 CAD (*wince*)).

I want it I want it I want it!

captain swoop
2005-Jan-27, 11:52 AM
If you haven't got room for a model railway at home then join a club.

I am a member of the local club, we have a huge layout set in North Yorkshire in a generic timeframe including open country and industrial city and two exhibition layouts. One set in 1942 and the other based on the Esk Valley line from Middlesbrough to Whitby set in the 1920s.

I have locomotives and stock and I can run them at anytime on the club layout.

As for big models, a couple of years ago there was a series on Discovery Home and Leisure in the UK. It featured big models, the presenter was building a 1/48 model of HMS Fearless complete with operating landing dock. Each week as he built a bit of his he featiured othe modellers with big stuff. One guy build quater scale armour and had also built 1/1 scale models of German Panzer 3 and a Halftrack.

CTM VT 2K
2005-Jan-27, 01:56 PM
One guy build quater scale armour and had also built 1/1 scale models of German Panzer 3 and a Halftrack.

Wouldn't a 1/1 scale model actually qualify as a reproduction? It's not exactly a model if it's full size. 8-[

Wally
2005-Jan-27, 03:13 PM
My advice is, stay away from the Lego model of the Wright Flyer. The biggest problem with it (on mine, anyway) is that the spacing on the beige plates is just a tiny bit bigger than that on the brown plates ,two of which go under each wing. The result is that the beige plates are forced to curve and it's impossible to complete.

Fred

Hey! An old thread of mine reborn!

anyways, Nowhere man, I completely forgot about this warning of yours and went ahead and bought (and assembled) the Wright Bros plane. You are absolutely correct in that the wings end up with a pretty good curve in them. I had a heck of a time getting them to attach to the body. After several attempts (and subsequent breaking apart of either the body or the wings), I was able to get them attached to the point where they won't fall off. But, I had to warn anyone who came near it to NOT pick it up by the wings, as I'm sure they'd fall right off again. . .

teddyv
2005-Jan-27, 03:33 PM
Oh man! I just wish I had the artistic ability (and the room, and $$$, and time. . .) to set up a beautiful model train layout. I've always been fascinated by them when I've seen 'em!

I'm finally going to get some room to start my own layout again. Really looking forward to it. Yes model trains do tend to be on the pricey side (especially these days), but there are lots of cost saving ideas.

It doesn't have to take much room either, there are lots of modular options out there.

captain swoop
2005-Jan-27, 04:03 PM
One guy build quater scale armour and had also built 1/1 scale models of German Panzer 3 and a Halftrack.

Wouldn't a 1/1 scale model actually qualify as a reproduction? It's not exactly a model if it's full size. 8-[

His models are made from wood mainly so not exactly a reproduction.

Swift
2005-Jan-27, 04:28 PM
Oh man! I just wish I had the artistic ability (and the room, and $$$, and time. . .) to set up a beautiful model train layout. I've always been fascinated by them when I've seen 'em!

I'm finally going to get some room to start my own layout again. Really looking forward to it. Yes model trains do tend to be on the pricey side (especially these days), but there are lots of cost saving ideas.

It doesn't have to take much room either, there are lots of modular options out there.
There is also a lot of nice equipment available for Z and N scale, if space is a consideration. I've seen a lot of articles in model railroading magazines about designs that use a very small space (down to suitcase and coffee tables sizes).

captain swoop
2005-Jan-28, 11:04 AM
Z is too tiny but you are right there is a lot of good N sclae out there with detail as good as a lot of the HO stuff.

As my interest is the North Eastern railway before it was 'grouped' into the LNER I have to build everything from kits.

electromagneticpulse
2005-Jan-28, 02:53 PM
I always liked the big jumble packs of lego where you could build what you wanted. But the piece you needed was always the last one you picked out. 100's of pieces and it was impossible to get the right one first, second, third... time, it was always last :evil:

Maybe i should dig up my old lego kits :D

sarongsong
2005-Jan-29, 01:16 AM
"...Legoland [California] says (http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/01/28/business/news/12_02_461_27_05.txt) its 2005 expansion will include...Knights' Tournament looks like it was borrowed from NASA's astronaut training facility...an articulated robotic arm with two passenger seats attached at the arm's free end. The arm turns, spins, extends, retracts and bobbles while the seats, moving together, rise, fall, spin and shake. Six of the arms will make up the attraction, which is similar to rides now in use at Legoland parks in Germany and Denmark..."

"... Lego Co. of Denmark, is trying to sell (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20050128-9999-1b28lego.html) its four amusement parks...the parks are expensive to operate and that it needs the money for its toy business..."

Nicolas
2005-Jan-29, 10:02 AM
Is it just me or is the Lego like it is available today much worse than it was, say 6 years ago? I mean the ridiculous amount of new blocks, the small number of block per set (lacks intercompatibility that way), the new themes that just aren't "it"? Why did they quit on their "city" team as it was? I mean it had been there for like more than 30 years, had evolved all the time and was massively popular all the time. On top of that, the price has about doubled. I used to be able to buy a police station that was really complex for 50$, while now a more simple (more ugly) set with less cars etc costs me 70$ or more.

Apart from some top of the shelf sets, als Lego Technic has gone backwards IMO. Those sets got better and better, until the thing plumited some years ago. I think the highlight of the technic series was the time when they had their space shuttle, that huge mobile crane, the scanning dumptruck etc. Also in the past they often had marvelous sets.

Sure they've got their Star Wars, football, Spielberg, Bionicle, POtter themes now. But I just want plain old BIG and COMPLEX castles with lots of knights and forest hunters to fight each other. I want the old huge pirate ship. I want a city complex that takes up my whole room, filled with all kinds of goodies. I want a train added with that b-e-a-utiful yellow station building they made some years ago. I want a formula1 circuit added. I want ROAD WORKS 8) . Where's all that stuff gone? Don't tell me "jack stone" is equivalent...

Any comments?

electromagneticpulse
2005-Jan-29, 04:46 PM
Sure they've got their Star Wars, football, Spielberg, Bionicle, POtter themes now. But I just want plain old BIG and COMPLEX castles with lots of knights and forest hunters to fight each other. I want the old huge pirate ship. I want a city complex that takes up my whole room, filled with all kinds of goodies. I want a train added with that b-e-a-utiful yellow station building they made some years ago. I want a formula1 circuit added. I want ROAD WORKS 8) . Where's all that stuff gone? Don't tell me "jack stone" is equivalent...

Any comments?

Thats what i'm talking about, i had 3 castle sets all different and huge. They were so much fun and then i had the space ship set from the same time, where you could build a massive mother ship. Then if you bought the space style misc set you could build a docking bay on it for all the little fighters you could get. For 3 or 4 sets it cost about £100 last time i checked a misc pack cost about £60 and i think it's about 1/2 as big.

I wish i didn't give them to my little cousin now :(

Nicolas
2005-Jan-29, 04:54 PM
I really don't get it. "kids want to play fast these days, they don't want to have to build for hours". I'm sorry, but did they ask that to kids or to some management bureau? I thought that building lego WAS playing. I kicked on the number of blocks in my sets :) The thicker the building manual the better. On top of that, sticking with the same blocks, and with less prints is cheaper. They make less atractive sets with less blocks that are less interchangeable, featuring less atractive themes, while making the sets more expensive. How come the sales numbers go down?

Some years ago Lego really was perfectly in the kid's market: impressive sets in interesting themes, in a whole range of prices (though I always found their road ground plates ridiculously expensive). Whether it was the big castle or just the Black Knight set, the laaaaaarge formula 1 starting grid or a single F1 car, the complete firestation or just a small jeep, it was what kids wanted. It was timeless. And it looked more realistic without using custom blocks. Somewhere on the road they lost it IMO.

I'm glad I still have all my (good old) lego.

Moose
2005-Jan-29, 04:59 PM
Once or twice as a kid, using mostly only standard 4x2x3 blocks, my mother's ironing board, and an ice-cream container, I "faithfully" re-created an aircraft carrier, three or four squadrons of Phantoms and a squadron of Intruders. I even had a couple of Tomcat prototypes on board. No choppers or CODs though. (Didn't have a good grasp of logistics at 12. Sue me. :P )

Nicolas
2005-Jan-29, 05:07 PM
At the moment I have my Lego large police helicopter, medical biprop plane and complete shuttle launch pad standing here in front of me. Just to get inspired during the studies you know.

I once made a full F1 circuit. I mean circuit, pitlane, public viewing areas, cars, etcetc. Nice view 8) Later, I loved making technical "miracles" with my technics.

My biggest achievements were a 2-gearbox which shifted gears with an axle movement of only 1 unit, using only standard Lego gears and axles (so no premade gearbox or gear holding units, only standard bars, axles and wheels). The gearbox (which contained quite a lot of gears in total in fact, most of them only to get things at the right opsition and from engine to rear axle) was put nicely underneath the cabin, which had a 2*1 hole in the floor, with the lovely gear shifter sticking through it. Move it 1 pin (while driving, yes!), and hoppa other gear ratio 8)

I also loved the pneumatic system, I've made trucks which could load/unload containers with them.

Tobin Dax
2005-Jan-30, 04:42 AM
[snip]

Sure they've got their Star Wars, football, Spielberg, Bionicle, POtter themes now. But I just want plain old BIG and COMPLEX castles with lots of knights and forest hunters to fight each other. I want the old huge pirate ship. I want a city complex that takes up my whole room, filled with all kinds of goodies. I want a train added with that b-e-a-utiful yellow station building they made some years ago. I want a formula1 circuit added. I want ROAD WORKS 8) . Where's all that stuff gone? Don't tell me "jack stone" is equivalent...

Any comments?

This reminds me of a great quote from a friend in undergrad that was made about fours years ago now, in regard to the fancy Star Wars legos: "My Han Solo in carbonite was my freezing a Lego man in an ice-cube tray overnight." I agree with both of you. These fancy new sets leave nothing to the imagination--there's no creative aspect. I would build Star Trek-ish ships using the 1-by's from my Technic sets with all the holes through them as the warp nacelles. And I then, of course, had a whole explaination of how they worked, that the holes were a necessary aspect, etc. Let the creative mind run free. Friends and I would also design spaceships to battle each other out of their Lego sets, taking whatever we had and designing whatever came together in our heads. The castles and pirates ships and stuff were great fun, but the mixing and matching and rampant creativity were even better, IMO. And now I see the ugly insectoid things that look like they would be of no (or little) use in such a venture. Disappointing, to say the least. Give me a big set of general blocks, a few hours of time, and an open mind any day..

Man, I may have to go find my Lego's and build something new, even if it means taking apart the ship I've left together for a few years.
:D 8) :D

Nicolas
2005-Jan-30, 10:18 AM
While one could argue that those older castles used quite a few custom blocks as well, I remember the interchangeability of them. The wall elements could be used for ANY castle, or even a ship upper deck building. The swords could be attached to some ramming device or as spikes in a defensive installation, the possiblilities were endless. I had pirate, woodwarrior, viking ships and knight castles. All of those could be combined into one MASSIVE castle, looking like it was one set. You had to be creative of course...but wait that was the point, wasn't it??

I've got the original Model Team truck with trolly and helicopter (yes,yes, that's the one!! 8) ) I can tell you, that thing uses only standard blocks, there ain't a single block in that set that I didn't have in another set already. And it looks soooooooo realistic! While being a very expensive set at the time, I think the nowadays firestaion is more expensive, while having like a quarter of the blocks.

Togusa
2005-Jan-30, 03:35 PM
All this talk of LEGO stuff (especially the MER LEGO model, which I built in response to the original thread) reminded me of the works of this guy (www.erichharshburger.org), who has dome some pretty amazing things with LEGOs, like building a triple-sized version of the original LEGO Space Cruiser (http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/924x3.html) and life-size sculptures of Bart Simpson, (http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/bart.html) R2-D2, (http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/r2d2.html) San from Princess Mononoke, (http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/mononoke.html) and Tux, the Linux mascot (http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/penguin.html).

Pictures of numerous other LEGO-crafted creations can be found here. (www.brickshelf.com) :D

sarongsong
2005-Feb-22, 05:47 AM
February 21, 2005 (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20050221-1239-legoland.html)
"Legoland in Carlsbad today broke the world record for the tallest tower made of Lego bricks...92 feet 6 inches..."
http://www.signonsandiego.com/teaserimages/050221legotower-tight.jpg =D>

sarongsong
2006-Mar-04, 07:16 AM
...Mind you, the more advanced models are a bit pricey, but what the heck. It beats web surfing your way thru winter!...And as for the 'surfboard' itself:
"Q&A: Meet the Maker...win a LEGO PC..." PC Magazine (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1853580,00.asp)

Moose
2006-Mar-04, 04:19 PM
Ha! Sweet! Now to really impress me, make a functional one (real electronics, buttons and housing out of lego, keyboard and mouse included.)

sarongsong
2006-Mar-04, 10:15 PM
Coming right up!
"...LEGO artist Nathan Sawaya...took our request seriously, and built this mind-blowingly cool LEGO system, keyboard, mouse, and all. Which got us thinking: Can we make a working LEGO computer, with optical drives, an LCD monitor, and all the bells and whistles? You bet we can. And while we're not finished filling this thing with working PC parts, we can tell already that it's going to be awesome..."
PC Magazine (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1921117,00.asp)