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Mrdomination
2004-Oct-19, 09:27 AM
I couldn't Find a post about this...So I made one myself.

Judging by the lack of a topic for this film Im guessing no one here has seen it. Unfortunatlly I have.

I just got back from a trip to Regin Sask where we watched this movie and honestly, this movie was one of the worst films I have seen year.

I mean everything in it was full of holes. The characaters were under written, under developed and over-killed. The plot was horrible. The end was terrible and I payed full price to get in.

It was a perfect example of the continuing trend in film, to be comprised of "cool" moments that will hopefully make up a good film. You can tell they had ideas for events to happen in the movie and just tried to figure out how to tie them together with as little plot and story as possible.

Don't get me wrong, those "cool" moments are kinda neat, But in order for me, a connoisseur of zombie films if you will, to be entertained by this movie, I would have had to done like the zombies and checked my brain at the door.

I cant remeber the order everything happend in, but I can remeber that for the first little while it was reasenably entertaing. Like 10 - 15 min or so. Then, it went to hell.

Anyway, If I couldnt find this post I had to make it because there was one Really good part in it. Bad Science good. It was one line near the end of the movie and I had to post it because I knew everyone here would get a big kick out of it. I still laughing about it a few days latter.

And I Quote. "Her mental and pyhisical powers are increasing at a geometric rate."

Invader Spleen
2004-Oct-19, 10:19 AM
horrible movie, just plain horrible

Amadeus
2004-Oct-19, 03:40 PM
First ever movie with Mila Jovovich that I didn't like :(

The original was cool IMHO and had some structure. This ones got nothing.
The whole Alice character development was ripped off from Aliens resurection.

This is what you get when you change directors.....

Bounced Check
2004-Oct-19, 05:42 PM
The worst part was the overly close up fight shots. You couldn't see what was going on!

The Bear
2004-Oct-19, 05:58 PM
And how many times do we have to go through the scene where someone in the group gets bitten by a zombie...and the others seem to think, "Oh, that's all right, you'll be fine." Figure it out, people! Get bitten = zombie gonna-be! But over and over in this ONE movie, they keep making that same mistake without any explanation. Dopes!

Oh, and what caused the zombies? If its spread by biting, how did the bodies in the graveyard rise up? How did...how....(sputter!)...oh, for Gods's sake, never mind. I can't believe I'm arguing for logic in this horrible, horrible movie. It's in the running with "House of the Dead" for worst zombie movie...EVER! [-(

AndrewGPaul
2004-Oct-19, 11:12 PM
(although, giving away the end is hardly a spoiler - now you don't need to waste $10 to see the silly thing)

I actually liked the first movie, it was good fun. This one, however, wasn't even mindlessly enjoyable. First, what's with that motorbike entrance through the church windows? Daft. and the 'lickers' were wasted. Would've been nice if they were the big baddie or something. Oh, and how exactl did a corporation get the ppower to own, control and obliterate a midwestern US city, without anyone noticing?!

(also, funny how the virology expert was also a 1337 haxor)

Finally, am I correct in thinking that a nuclear meltdown has almost no similar features to a nuclear warhead airburst detonation?

The Supreme Canuck
2004-Oct-20, 02:41 AM
Absolutely correct. The only similarity is that they both involve nuclear materials. By the way, the explosion was wrong in many, many ways, including the supposed yield. To do what it did, it would have to be far larger. Plus it just didn't look right.

The worst part for me, though, was when they said "Look, this is Raccoon City!"

And then you see the CN Tower float past the camera. Kind of conspicuous, isn't it? At least leave it out of the shot...

Rue
2004-Oct-20, 03:47 AM
But city hall gets blowd up.....real good!

Mrdomination
2004-Oct-20, 08:30 AM
I also Liked the CIBC building in the night helicopter scene..

But I think I hated the nemisis/alice fight, then team up the most....

And after the Disabled scientist gets killed.....what would be the point of keeping his daughter with the group. I woulda tossed her out the back of the Helicopter.

And How could alice have killed three lickers lickaty split (man I'm lame) and then have a tougher time killing zombies and soilders.

But a thought did occur to me about one good thing when I saw the movie.
My buddy actually bought the tickets so I saw it for free.

Amadeus
2004-Oct-20, 10:24 AM
And after the Disabled scientist gets killed.....what would be the point of keeping his daughter with the group. I woulda tossed her out the back of the Helicopter.

Pushing orhpans out the back of helecopters is considerd not to be a nice thng to do. Even if they are whiney brats.

BTW did anyone else notice that the voice of hers was dubbed? This is because she is the model for the computer in the first film(the red queen) but they thought her American voice was too suggestive for a you kid so they dubbed over it with a british accent. (If you want evil, buy british every time :D )

BTW spoilers etc....

Wally
2004-Oct-20, 01:41 PM
(although, Oh, and how exactl did a corporation get the ppower to own, control and obliterate a midwestern US city, without anyone noticing?!



Haven't even seen this one (and won't, by the sound of these reviews), but one thing I am totally sick of is the not-so-well hidden socialistic stab so many director/writers take by making the evil "entity" a corporation 9 times out of 10. . . .

Count me out.

AndrewGPaul
2004-Oct-20, 08:10 PM
It's not the concept of such a powerul corporation I object to - the Cyberpunk 2020 roleplaying game had equally powerful corporate entities, but it was set 30 years ahead of its time, and even then, the one corp that tried to mess with the US government found out why that was a bad idea - but the fact that it was alledgedly set now-ish. No-one visited from out of town, no-one in the town at the time had a mobile phone with a camera?

and the virus is spread by fluid contact. Yet, Alice escapes, wounded and infected, and her helicopter crashes in a river. Somehow, this doesn't cause the mass infection of everything in the surrounding countryside.

JonClarke
2004-Oct-20, 09:32 PM
Wally

Evil corporations have been bogeymen in American movies, novels, and politics for most of the 20th century and perhaps before. Mind you, given the track record of all to many large businesses and indviduals in the US in the 19th and 20th, the suspicion in quite understandable.

It has nothing to do with socialism. It is just a cliche that works because resonates with popular culture. There are a limited number of stock bad guys the movie makers can use. 1) Russians, 2) Chinese, 3) government, 4) corporations, 5) Arabs, 6) anyone with an English accent....

Cheers

Jon

The Supreme Canuck
2004-Oct-21, 12:34 AM
I was wondering where the heck the marines were through the whole thing. Surely there'd be at least an armoury in a city that big!

SKY
2004-Oct-22, 01:46 AM
I've been a fan of the games for a long time, but I hated the first movie. I haven't seen this one yet, but from the responses, I think I'll wait for the DVD. The first movie originally had George Romero set to direct and he even completed a script for it which is available on line to read (if anyone is interested, I'll look it up, it is a better script than what was used). Oddly enough, his script was more true to the game then the movie that was made. With "RE: Apocolypse", I was hoping that a new director would mean a better movie and would involve the game series more, but after reading the reviews I am not holding my breath.

Wally
2004-Oct-22, 07:33 PM
Wally

Evil corporations have been bogeymen in American movies, novels, and politics for most of the 20th century and perhaps before. Mind you, given the track record of all to many large businesses and indviduals in the US in the 19th and 20th, the suspicion in quite understandable.

It has nothing to do with socialism. It is just a cliche that works because resonates with popular culture. There are a limited number of stock bad guys the movie makers can use. 1) Russians, 2) Chinese, 3) government, 4) corporations, 5) Arabs, 6) anyone with an English accent....

Cheers

Jon

Point taken Jon, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it has nothing to do with Socialism. There are many movies out there, especially those written/produced/directed by movie stars as their "pet" projects, that pick corporations as the bad guy because they honestly feel corporations (and free enterprise in general) is the root of all evil in the world.

Steven Seagal made a practice of this (On deadly ground, A Fire Down Below, etc).

AndrewGPaul
2004-Oct-22, 08:23 PM
I was wondering where the heck the marines were through the whole thing. Surely there'd be at least an armoury in a city that big!

Remember, this was a corporate-run city; the police and, apparently, the local military units (all those russian guys in black) were controlled by Umbrella. Most of the military units were on the outside of the wall.

The Supreme Canuck
2004-Oct-22, 08:26 PM
Huh. So it's a plot device. Got it. :wink: