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slang
2012-Oct-14, 01:07 PM
Today Felix Baumgartner will attempt to break Joe Kittinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Excelsior)'s record parachute jump from 102,800 ft in 1960.

More info here (http://www.redbullstratos.com), and a livestream available here (http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/).

Roswell will finally have a load of credible "weird things in the sky" reports!

Right now the capsule is still on the ground, jump not expected before 1.5 hrs from now.

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 01:16 PM
Today Felix Baumgartner will attempt to break Joe Kittinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Excelsior)'s record parachute jump from 102,800 ft in 1960.

More info here (http://www.redbullstratos.com), and a livestream available here (http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/).

Roswell will finally have a load of credible "weird things in the sky" reports!

Right now the capsule is still on the ground, jump not expected before 1.5 hrs from now.

Now if his capsule fell through a wormhole to 1947...:)

Seriously best of luck to him.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 01:21 PM
Right now they're waiting for a slight breeze to die down, there's no wind at ground level but a slightly too high wind at 700ft, which is dangerous for the balloon while inflating.

Earliest launch window is about 1,5 hours from now, expected launch window will be one hour from 9:00 AM MDT, 15:00 GMT.

Next information update 7:45 AM MDT (13:45 GMT), 25 minutes from now.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 02:32 PM
The feed now mentions a broadcast start at 9:45 AM MDT (15:45 GMT).

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 02:47 PM
Inflation has been started

slang
2012-Oct-14, 03:20 PM
Red Bull Stratos ‏@RedBullStratos

Balloon inflation is complete #stratos #livejump pic.twitter.com/R7m0mxZK

slang
2012-Oct-14, 03:21 PM
Standby for Stratos Launch

slang
2012-Oct-14, 03:25 PM
30 seconds to broadcast start (and maybe launch?)

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 03:30 PM
Liftoff!

slang
2012-Oct-14, 03:31 PM
Launch!

slang
2012-Oct-14, 03:33 PM
Wow, he has Kittinger as capcom..

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 03:35 PM
I thought the capsule was pressurized as well?

slang
2012-Oct-14, 03:40 PM
I think so, yes. He's already in the suit because he's been pre-breathing.

If anyone knows of a better feed than the one on redbullstratos.com please holler.. this one is not working well for me at all :(

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 03:43 PM
That's what I thought too, but the pressure in the capsule is dropping as fast as it is outside.

I think this is the only feed, but maybe the direct link on youtube would work better for you?

This seems to be working fine.

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 03:44 PM
Ah never mind, they were letting it drop to a certain point.

Tog
2012-Oct-14, 03:46 PM
There is a direct YouTube feed, not sure if that will be any better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MrIxH6DToXQ#

slang
2012-Oct-14, 03:47 PM
ustream.tv has it, but choppy sound

Commentator deserves a prize for worst of the worst, IMHO. What an annoying presence..

Tog
2012-Oct-14, 03:49 PM
Looks like they plan to hold the capsule pressure at 8 psi now.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 03:49 PM
"Not sure if you can hear that.." ... NO! Not if you keep yapping! Grr.

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 03:50 PM
ustream.tv has it, but choppy sound

Commentator deserves a prize for worst of the worst, IMHO. What an annoying presence..


I agree completely. Though watching pro and college football all the time, I'm sort of used to it.

However, this guy is next generation terrible.

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 03:52 PM
Please for the love of God, and your own Mother, shut your pie hole.

Tog
2012-Oct-14, 04:02 PM
He's reached the Jet Stream. 105 MPH/165 km/h ground speed track.

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 04:09 PM
I like how he says "let's listen in" then proceeds to talk over them.

Perikles
2012-Oct-14, 04:15 PM
Hey, when is the USA going to adopt sensible measuring units? I'm hearing all kinds of ancient expressions such as cubic feet and miles per weekend, all fairly meaningless in the 21st century. :D

Tog
2012-Oct-14, 04:27 PM
Just heard that the Discovery channel should have a feed as well.

They dropped some ballast. Ascent speed increased about 2 furlongs per min. :)

Tog
2012-Oct-14, 04:34 PM
Half-way there and he's reporting the heater on the visor is up to max and he's getting no heat. The rest of the suit sounds good.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 04:42 PM
3 million viewers on ut00b. Felix looks relaxed, halfway up.

Tog
2012-Oct-14, 04:45 PM
Ascent Speed just went from 200 to 700 ft/min. That's about what they got last time the dropped ballast. And as I type that, it drops to 0 on all speed sensors.

I did notice his O2 got really high a few minute ago. Over 32%.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 05:13 PM
About 15 to 20 minutes before they reach jump altitude. Troubleshooting an issue with the faceplate heater of Baumgartner's helmet, to avoid it freezing/fogging up.

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:14 PM
Passing his previous jump height at 97,000 feet, everything seems to be good, no more on the visor heater.

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:19 PM
And he's just passing Kittinger's jump height.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 05:22 PM
Passing his previous jump height at 97,000 feet, everything seems to be good, no more on the visor heater.

Past Kittinger's record height now.

If I were Baumgartner I'd probably yell "No fog protection? Fog it! Let's jump!"

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:26 PM
Past Kittinger's record height now.

If I were Baumgartner I'd probably yell "No fog protection? Fog it! Let's jump!"

Yeah I doubt whether he's going to let it stop him at this point.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 05:32 PM
Almost there. Highest ever manned balloon flight! Past 113,740 ft, 34km

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:32 PM
Just set the record for highest manned balloon flight!

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:40 PM
And 120,000 feet, float altitude predicted at about 125,000 feet

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:43 PM
Apparently confirmed that he will jump, whether visor heater working or not is uncertain.

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:45 PM
Looked like float height but then the ascent picked up again, passing 123,000 feet

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:50 PM
They've started the check list at about 127,000 feet.

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 05:50 PM
Was over 128k now height lowering.

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:55 PM
They seem to essentially bobbing up and down a little just just around 128,000 feet.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 05:58 PM
First depressurization done, suit is inflating.

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 05:59 PM
Depressurising the capsule, checking the suit is inflating, all good.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 06:01 PM
Wonder how much is rate of ascent is increasing because the air is gone from the cabin..

slang
2012-Oct-14, 06:04 PM
Door open!

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 06:04 PM
And the door has opened!

slang
2012-Oct-14, 06:08 PM
falling!

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 06:08 PM
He has jumped!!!!

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 06:09 PM
Was spinning but seems to have stabilized.

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 06:12 PM
His chute has opened!

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 06:17 PM
And he landed on his feet, perfect!

Sticks
2012-Oct-14, 06:28 PM
What about the capsule he jumped from, is that going to land on someone's head?

Buttercup
2012-Oct-14, 06:28 PM
He's nuts.

But I wish him well, hope he succeeds.

Tog
2012-Oct-14, 06:29 PM
I thought I caught a bit of audio where he said he thought he passed out for a second.

That tumble had me worried.

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 06:29 PM
What about the capsule he jumped from, is that going to land on someone's head?


It's parchuting back down also, just not getting as much attention. :)

Garrison
2012-Oct-14, 06:30 PM
He's nuts.

But I wish him well, hope he succeeds.

Um, he landed about ten minutes ago.

Buttercup
2012-Oct-14, 06:31 PM
Um, he landed about ten minutes ago.

I just got online, okay? :)

slang
2012-Oct-14, 06:33 PM
Wow, what an achievement. And what a great world that we can watch it live, from ascent through jump through soft landing...

Sardonicone
2012-Oct-14, 06:35 PM
But if you had read the thread...or got on any media site they would have shown it was over already...

At any rate, yeah, didn't get the total time for freefall record, but I believe they hit all the other planned objectives.

KaiYeves
2012-Oct-14, 06:48 PM
Congrats, Mr. Baumgartner! You did great, now go celebrate with your family!

Ara Pacis
2012-Oct-14, 08:03 PM
Weird. I looked at CNN about 2 hours ago and it had a clock suggesting the jump was over 2 hours away.

slang
2012-Oct-14, 08:51 PM
Are you sure you weren't mistaken by the flight-time clock? It took 2 hours to get to altitude, then quite a while longer for the egress-checklist and such.

schlaugh
2012-Oct-15, 01:16 AM
Just saw the below in the AP story. At the altitude when he crossed 833 mph...what loud sound? What would qualify as supersonic at that altitude and temperature? Would there even be a noise as such? (bold my emphasis).


Baumgartner said traveling faster than sound is "hard to describe because you don't feel it." The pressurized suit prevented him from feeling the rushing air or even the loud noise he made when breaking the sound barrier.

TaylorS
2012-Oct-15, 01:27 AM
I watched the live stream, that was amazing how fast he was falling!

Glom
2012-Oct-15, 09:03 AM
Pah! Get back to me when someone is going to dive from orbit.

Tog
2012-Oct-15, 10:41 AM
I was wondering about that. If one of those James Bond rocket packs could be used to slow a person to a hover, then cut loose and plummet. I know they'd need more fuel, but as long as they go in with minimal forward speed, how impossible would it be?

Once the air starts to thicken up, would the speed be so great that burning would still be an issue? Or would it more of a "bug on a windshield" sort of thing? Could they use parachutes to slow the fall and increase stability above 200,000 feet? Is ther enough air there?

grapes
2012-Oct-15, 04:16 PM
I was wondering about that. If one of those James Bond rocket packs could be used to slow a person to a hover, then cut loose and plummet. I know they'd need more fuel, but as long as they go in with minimal forward speed, how impossible would it be?

Once the air starts to thicken up, would the speed be so great that burning would still be an issue? Or would it more of a "bug on a windshield" sort of thing? Could they use parachutes to slow the fall and increase stability above 200,000 feet? Is ther enough air there?From minimal space shuttle orbit (100 miles), dropping down to 20 miles (approx where he *started* his jump), he'd potentially reach speeds of over four times the maximum that he endured (833 mph) farther down. The amount of energy he'd have to dissipate would be twenty times as much.

KaiYeves
2012-Oct-15, 09:01 PM
Pah! Get back to me when someone is going to dive from orbit.
You mean, like the Orbital Drop Shock Troopers (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Orbital_Drop_Shock_Trooper) from Halo?

Noclevername
2012-Oct-15, 10:29 PM
You mean, like the Orbital Drop Shock Troopers (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Orbital_Drop_Shock_Trooper) from Halo?

Or the Mobile Infantry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Infantry_(Starship_Troopers)) that inspired them?

Grashtel
2012-Oct-16, 01:54 AM
I was wondering about that. If one of those James Bond rocket packs could be used to slow a person to a hover, then cut loose and plummet. I know they'd need more fuel, but as long as they go in with minimal forward speed, how impossible would it be?

Once the air starts to thicken up, would the speed be so great that burning would still be an issue? Or would it more of a "bug on a windshield" sort of thing? Could they use parachutes to slow the fall and increase stability above 200,000 feet? Is ther enough air there?
Orbital sky diving would need a lot more than just a conventional parachute, something like a paracone (http://www.astronautix.com/craft/paracone.htm), MOOSE (http://www.astronautix.com/craft/moose.htm), or one of the various other similar systems for orbital bailout.

cjl
2012-Oct-17, 08:07 AM
Just saw the below in the AP story. At the altitude when he crossed 833 mph...what loud sound? What would qualify as supersonic at that altitude and temperature? Would there even be a noise as such? (bold my emphasis).

There would definitely be a sonic boom, but he wouldn't be able to hear it. If someone else was up there (in another balloon, or a U2, or something like that), they could potentially hear the boom, but since he was pushing the pressure wave with him, he would never hear it as a noise, even if it weren't for the suit.

Glom
2012-Oct-17, 11:53 AM
Did he feel it?

cjl
2012-Oct-17, 08:39 PM
I doubt he felt much of anything aside from a gradual increase in pressure on his front side as he accelerated into the more dense regions of atmosphere. Perhaps if he was paying extremely careful attention, he may have noticed the slight drag change through transonic, but I doubt it would be a dramatic effect.

Enemy
2012-Oct-17, 08:53 PM
From minimal space shuttle orbit (100 miles), dropping down to 20 miles (approx where he *started* his jump), he'd potentially reach speeds of over four times the maximum that he endured (833 mph) farther down. The amount of energy he'd have to dissipate would be twenty times as much.

I tried to replicate your results, and agree that if he jumped from minimal space shuttle orbital altitude, he'd hit about four times that speed (assuming no friction from the air until 20 miles). If he jumped from minimal space shuttle orbit, he'd already be going about twenty one times as fast :D

KaiYeves
2012-Oct-17, 08:53 PM
Or the Mobile Infantry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Infantry_(Starship_Troopers)) that inspired them?

I guess, I only knew about the ODST because my brother is a big Halo fan. (He actually described them to me when I was home during the summer and asked me what the closest things in reality were, so I told him Kittinger/Stratos and MOOSE.) It may be backwards, but I first hear about a lot of concepts in reality before fiction.