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kucharek
2004-Nov-08, 07:03 PM
At http://wetter.rtl.de/redaktion/gamechannel/dart/ you'll find a map of Germany and you are asked to locate some cities by clicking on the map wher you think it is. In the end, you'll get the sum of all your misjudgements.
To help you a little bit, my accumulated error was 1322km in the first and 540km in the second try :oops:

Harald

dvb
2004-Nov-08, 07:09 PM
I did horrible! #-o

I can point out germany on a map no problem mind you. :)

pumpkinpie
2004-Nov-08, 07:24 PM
That was fun!
I didn't do very well, I was a total of 4436 km off.
But some cities I knew very well! I was there for about 2 weeks in '98. I was only 6 km off for Frankfurt! And of course I knew Berlin and Munchen....some others I hadn't heard of, by their names I could at least guess if they were north or south.

ToSeek
2004-Nov-08, 07:28 PM
4322 km. Considering I didn't even recognize some of the names, I thought it could have been a lot worse. I was within 50 km on Berlin, Bremen, and Hitzacker.

kucharek
2004-Nov-08, 07:45 PM
That they include Hitzacker must be a prank. I've never heard about it before and it is just a small, unimportant town. Maybe the guy who made the game was born there or something like that...

Laser Jock
2004-Nov-08, 07:50 PM
Very hard. I won't say how badly I did, but after the third try, I was still 3000+ km away. At least I knew (roughly) where Berlin was.

Here (http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/web_games.htm) are some state games. If the "Locate the State" game is not hard enough for you try the "Place the State - Advanced" game (92%, 6 miles off on average). It's a similar idea to kucharek's game.

jfribrg
2004-Nov-08, 08:07 PM
I was off by 5472 km. I didn't expect to do too well, since the closest I've ever been to Germany is Arcadia, Maine. The closest ones I got were Berlin, Hamburg and Freiburg, the last being the best (59km). That is not surprising, considering that my screen name is an abbreviation of my first initial and last name. I spell my name like the city near Dresden, not the southern city, but I know the locations of both. If only they had asked for Dresden in the quiz, I would have done marginally better.

kucharek
2004-Nov-08, 08:12 PM
Very hard. I won't say how badly I did, but after the third try, I was still 3000+ km away. At least I knew (roughly) where Berlin was.

Here (http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/web_games.htm) are some state games. If the "Locate the State" game is not hard enough for you try the "Place the State - Advanced" game (92%, 6 miles off on average). It's a similar idea to kucharek's game.

"Locate the State": 108 of 150 points
"Place the State - Advanced": 32 perfect out of 50 turns (64%), avg. error 122 miles, time 553 secs.

Thanks for the URL, I hoped someone would come up with something like that.

Harald

dvb
2004-Nov-08, 08:24 PM
I got 95 out of 150 on the first try with pick the state. Second try I managed 120 out of 150. A lot of it was guessing, but I knew the general area of most states. The small ones on the east coast caught me a couple of times.

For people who can't keep track of more than 10 provinces and 3 territories, here's the quiz for you.

http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/canquiz.html

kucharek
2004-Nov-08, 08:31 PM
For people who can't keep track of more than 10 provinces and 3 territories, here's the quiz for you.

http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/canquiz.html

34 from 39 points. I wasn't aware that Canada has so many parts. What's the difference betwqeen a province and a territory?

Harald

kucharek
2004-Nov-08, 08:35 PM
European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html

111 of 111 points :D

cyswxman
2004-Nov-08, 08:42 PM
Place the State - Advanced: 46/50 Perfect, Avg error - 8 miles, Time: 439 seconds.

dvb
2004-Nov-08, 08:42 PM
For people who can't keep track of more than 10 provinces and 3 territories, here's the quiz for you.

http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/canquiz.html

34 from 39 points. I wasn't aware that Canada has so many parts. What's the difference betwqeen a province and a territory?

Harald

That's a very good question, and even most Canadians don't know what the difference is. Basically, the provinces have their own provencial governments, whereas the territories are under federal government. Whenever changes are made to legislation in a territory, it must go through the federal government.

dvb
2004-Nov-08, 08:43 PM
European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html

111 of 111 points :D

This one sounds interesting. I'll have to try it out. :)

dvb
2004-Nov-08, 08:51 PM
European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html

111 of 111 points :D

This one sounds interesting. I'll have to try it out. :)

49 out of 111. :-?

Tranquility
2004-Nov-08, 08:58 PM
European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html

111 of 111 points :D

82 on 111

TriangleMan
2004-Nov-08, 09:03 PM
3154km and I've never been to Germany. :P
(When I was young I loved flipping through atlases so I had a pretty good idea of about half of the cities)

TriangleMan
2004-Nov-08, 09:06 PM
Difference between a province and a territory: Link (http://www.kidzone.ws/geography/constitution.htm)

TriangleMan
2004-Nov-08, 09:10 PM
European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html

111 of 111 points :D

109 of 111 (messed up on those former Yugoslavian states)

SeanF
2004-Nov-08, 09:11 PM
European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html

111 of 111 points :D

82 on 111
77 out of 111.

It would be better if it didn't identify the country when you make a wrong guess (e.g., "No, that's Slovakia") - my score would certainly have been a lot lower! :D

dvb
2004-Nov-08, 09:25 PM
European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html

111 of 111 points :D

82 on 111
77 out of 111.

It would be better if it didn't identify the country when you make a wrong guess (e.g., "No, that's Slovakia") - my score would certainly have been a lot lower! :D

I wasn't paying attention to the hints. I went through them pretty quickly. I should have taken my time. :)

scottmsg
2004-Nov-08, 09:34 PM
My results from all the tests so far:

Germany - Off by 1760 km (I missed Munchen by 2 km)
Place the State Advanced - 82%, average miss 16 miles, 326 seconds

Africa - 140/147
Asia - 84/84
Australia - 23/24 (I missed Queensland)
Caribbean - 47/72 (ouch #-o )
Central America - 42/42
Europe - 111/111
Middle East - 87/87
South America - 23/24 (Guyana)
USA - 150/150
World - 33/33
Overall - 740/774

dvb
2004-Nov-08, 09:36 PM
My results from all the tests so far:

Germany - Off by 1760 km (I missed Munchen by 2 km)
Place the State Advanced - 82%, average miss 16 miles, 326 seconds

Africa - 140/147
Asia - 84/84
Australia - 23/24 (I missed Queensland)
Caribbean - 47/72 (ouch #-o )
Central America - 42/42
Europe - 111/111
Middle East - 87/87
South America - 23/24 (Guyana)
USA - 150/150
World - 33/33
Overall - 740/774

You missed Canada btw, but you'd probably ace it anyways! :P

Someone deserves a medal here. :D

Laser Jock
2004-Nov-08, 09:36 PM
European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html

111 of 111 points :D

100/111 for me. =D>

scottmsg
2004-Nov-08, 09:43 PM
You missed Canada btw, but you'd probably ace it anyways! :P

Someone deserves a medal here. :D

Oh, I did forget to put Canada down. :oops: I did ace it, although I usually have problems with New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. I guess I got lucky this time.

Silent Knight
2004-Nov-08, 09:48 PM
I tried the Germany quiz and I was within about 50-100 km on the first 5, but after that I was averaging around 450 km and it was purely guessing and so I quit.

89% Locate a State
50% 125 miles Advanced
16/39 Canada

I tried the European quiz, but it didn't work. There were no questions. I would click on a country and nothing would happen.

Edit: I guess I wasn't waiting long enough. I scored 62 out of 111. There sure are a lot of countries in Europe!

Zachary
2004-Nov-08, 10:08 PM
I got 109 out of 111 on the European quiz - and that's only because I mixed up Latvia and Lithuania and I couldn't click on luxembourg and hit France instead #-o

Careless
2004-Nov-08, 10:38 PM
I tried the European quiz, but it didn't work. There were no questions. I would click on a country and nothing would happen.
It took a couple minutes to finish loading on this computer for some reason

ngc3314
2004-Nov-08, 10:41 PM
European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html

111 of 111 points :D

82 on 111

107 - I'm a little fuzzy on former Yogoslav republics...

Morrolan
2004-Nov-09, 03:28 AM
2809 km.... :o #-o shameful... i missed Freiburg by 200 k (imagine driving through it at least twice a year every year on my way to Switzerland...) but Cottbus i was only off 49 km...

AliCali
2004-Nov-09, 05:27 AM
Germany quiz: 1514 km. We should've done better, since my wife lived there for a year. She's never heard of Hitzacker either.

Kucharek, I noticed you're from Karlsruhe, and I finally remembered where I've heard that town before...

My wife and I were in Germany this year. We traveled by train up the West side, and stopped in Baden-Baden to visit relatives. We were going to catch an express train to Koblenz, where we were staying. Unfortunately, our train hit somebody before it reached our station, so the train wasn't going to come. When we were looking at alternatives, a train to Karlsruhe was one of them. It wasn't needed, as the Bahnleute had one of the ICEs make a stop in Baden-Baden for us.

Hmm, I guess this story wasn't that interesting. Oh well.

Is Bahnleute a word? We just made it up.

snowcelt
2004-Nov-09, 07:09 AM
I saw your German quiz Kucharek, and ran through it right away. It was fun. 2961km and then 1935km. Stuttgart got me both times.

Gotta try the rest now!

snowcelt
2004-Nov-09, 07:49 AM
I got 109 out of 111 on the European quiz - and that's only because I mixed up Latvia and Lithuania and I couldn't click on luxembourg and hit France instead #-o

Bah! Me too. But I did not mix up the two Baltic states. Other than that 58% on place the state with an average error of 69 miles in 744 seconds. Aced Australia and Canada. I do not want to talk about the Caribbean experience.

Maksutov
2004-Nov-09, 09:08 AM
Zwei tausend sechs hundert und eins - erster Versuch.

Oy gewalt! :D

Argos
2004-Nov-09, 12:57 PM
At http://wetter.rtl.de/redaktion/gamechannel/dart/ you'll find a map of Germany and you are asked to locate some cities by clicking on the map wher you think it is. In the end, you'll get the sum of all your misjudgements.
To help you a little bit, my accumulated error was 1322km in the first and 540km in the second try :oops:

Harald

I was doing fine (150 km average), until Rostok (wasn´t it a Polish town?) came in. It´s at the Baltic see but I put it in the Black Forest! Besides being a map nut, I´ve always been very interested in Germany, and I would spend hours and hours looking at its map when I was young.

Gmann
2004-Nov-09, 01:42 PM
I hit most of the larger cities by 50-80 Km, but I got blown out by Aachen, Rostock, and Liepzig. I had those way off. Total error 1853 Km.

jfribrg
2004-Nov-09, 01:52 PM
I tried the European quiz, but it didn't work. There were no questions. I would click on a country and nothing would happen.
It took a couple minutes to finish loading on this computer for some reason

I was slow because every BABBler in the world was hitting the server at the same time.

pghnative
2004-Nov-09, 01:54 PM
"Place the State - Advanced": 32 perfect out of 50 turns (64%).
No offense, but 36 states are along the border, so that's not as impressive as it sounds. The "place-the-city" game is much more difficult.

I'll confess that I was incompetant at the Place-the-German city game. ~5700 km off. I've never been terribly interested in geography, and most of the cities I've never even heard of.

ToSeek
2004-Nov-09, 03:20 PM
Place the State (Advanced): 72%/32 miles. But somehow I managed to click too soon on Maryland and was way off. Embarrassing!

96/111 on the European quiz. Some problems with the former Yugoslavia as well as some dumb mistakes, like briefly forgetting which is Switzerland and which is Austria!

38/39 on Canada.

Bawheid
2004-Nov-09, 03:32 PM
111/111 on european countries, poor on Germany. Without the neighbouring countries I couldn't find any western cities. I'll try the rest later.

TriangleMan
2004-Nov-09, 03:40 PM
57 out of 72 on the Carribean quiz. All of those little islands make it tough.

pghnative
2004-Nov-09, 03:58 PM
84 out of 111 on the European countries. I did a little better than I expected, but I got lucky on some --- plus, when you make one mistake it tells you the answer. that gave me a few later on that I wouldn't have had a chance at.

CTM VT 2K
2004-Nov-09, 06:06 PM
ein tausand drei hundert und eins (1301).

Hitzacker really nailed me bad, and I was way off on one or two others (in North East Germany). Beyond that I was typically within 15km of the target. What do you want? I've lived here for 10 years... though for much of that it was West Germany - so those eastern locations were verboten.

kucharek
2004-Nov-09, 06:25 PM
Just found out that I didn't knew that one state capital is Bismarck :oops:
And another's Frankfort. :oops:
There is a Karlsruhe in ND, but it's pretty small with some 100+ people living there. There is currently a photo exhibition about it in the city library.
Very rural.

In general, what's most confusing to people here is, that most times it's not the best known city of a state that is capital. Ask people here about Texas and they will answer Houston or Dallas. California? LA or SF. Florida? Orlando, if they know one at all. New York? Of course, New York. Nevada? Las Vegas. Illinois? Chicago. And so on. Was there a system in it, like: Keep the government away from the big cities? Or did the business said: Keep away from the government?

Harald

pghnative
2004-Nov-09, 06:41 PM
Was there a system in it, like: Keep the government away from the big cities? In some cases that was true. In the state of Pennsylvania, the first state governments (technically colonial governments) were convened in Philadelphia, which was and still is the most populous city. In the late 1700's, representives from around the state complained not only that the capital was too far from the center of the state (Philadelphia is in the SE corner), but also that it was too frequently afflicted with epidemics, which is of course related to the size of the city. Ultimately the capital moved to Harrisburg, a relatively small city (4th largest at best in PA) which is a little south and a little east of the state's geographic center.

CTM VT 2K
2004-Nov-09, 07:13 PM
Was there a system in it, like: Keep the government away from the big cities? In some cases that was true. In the state of Pennsylvania, the first state governments (technically colonial governments) were convened in Philadelphia, which was and still is the most populous city. In the late 1700's, representives from around the state complained not only that the capital was too far from the center of the state (Philadelphia is in the SE corner), but also that it was too frequently afflicted with epidemics, which is of course related to the size of the city. Ultimately the capital moved to Harrisburg, a relatively small city (4th largest at best in PA) which is a little south and a little east of the state's geographic center.

Keep in mind that once you get into the Midwest and West (away from the East Coast), you have states that grew initially under the "Northwest Ordinances" wherin the structure of the state was often in place before the people. Take Iowa for example. Iowa has 99 counties. It was going to have 100, but the 100th never properly formed, so it was absorbed into another county. With the exception of the East and West borders of the state, all the counties are square (except for the one double-county, which is a rectangle). These were all laid out in the Iowa Territory, and then settled. A consequence of the NW ORD is that virtually everything is laid out in a N-S E-W orientation. In Iowa, virtually all the roads go either N-S or E-W. It is really striking when you fly over it, as it is a checker-board of fields, not the patchwork that you see in Europe and other places in the word. In Iowa, there is an Iowa City, but it is not in Iowa County, nor is it the County Seat of the county it is in. There is an Iowa County too - not related to Iowa City - except that both are in Iowa. Typically, the County Seat is the oldest town in a given county, but not nessisarily the largest.

What you see in microcosm in Iowa you can also see enlarged. Look at the Western States - relatively square or rectangular (Except where the terrain drives differences such as Rivers or Mountains). Also remember that a large portion of the U.S. was actually part of the Louisiana Purchase, so it was suddenly territorially part of the U.S. and the Government had to do something to organize it. The NW Ord. is the result. Out of that, most of the "heartland" states were carved.

Older states, such as Virginia and Pennsylvania (The original Colonies) grew much more organically, and in some ways make more sense. Richmond is the Capital of Virigina, but Jamestown was the oldest. Richmond grew to be the major City in Virigina during colonial days. It would still be the largest city, were it not for the National Capital being on the northern edge of the state. Nofolk and Newport News might actually be bigger, but that has more to do with the Military Industrial buildup over the last century than the Colonial and Revolutionary era establishment of the Capital.

Of course to an American, this is simple stuff compared to figuring out the regions and complex ineractions of the German Kreis and Länder. Just where are the borders of Schwaben? the Paltz? Franken? How have they moved? At least when West Virigina separated from Virginia it didn't move the border, it just created a new one. Bad Wimpfen has changed hands so many times I've lost count! :D

paulie jay
2004-Nov-09, 10:56 PM
Well, as far as Germany is concerned, I was always around 160km from each city.

Canada - 25 points - but only because it kept giving me the answers...

USA 106/ 150 - Great on the eastern states, hopless on the Mid West!

USA State Capitals - only 6 correct. Give me a break - I haven't even heard of most of these cities! And it's never the obvious one...

Europe 84/111 - a poor score of which I'm quite ashamed.

Australia - 24/24, of course!

South America - 32/39

Asia 64/84

Central America 30/42

I guess it's time to brush up!

Bob B.
2004-Nov-09, 11:56 PM
At http://wetter.rtl.de/redaktion/gamechannel/dart/ you'll find a map of Germany and you are asked to locate some cities by clicking on the map wher you think it is. In the end, you'll get the sum of all your misjudgements
I did terrible, off by 3,054 km on the first try.


Here (http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/web_games.htm) are some state games. If the "Locate the State" game is not hard enough for you try the "Place the State - Advanced" game (92%, 6 miles off on average). It's a similar idea to kucharek's game.
Locate the states: 150 out of 150
Place the states-Advanced: 78%, 23 miles, 424 seconds


For people who can't keep track of more than 10 provinces and 3 territories, here's the quiz for you.
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/canquiz.html

35 out of 39 first try, perfect on the second.


European countries:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/euroquiz.html
109 out of 111, missed Croatia and Latvia.

dvb
2004-Nov-10, 02:38 AM
Just found out that I didn't knew that one state capital is Bismarck :oops:
And another's Frankfort. :oops:
There is a Karlsruhe in ND, but it's pretty small with some 100+ people living there. There is currently a photo exhibition about it in the city library.
Very rural.

In general, what's most confusing to people here is, that most times it's not the best known city of a state that is capital. Ask people here about Texas and they will answer Houston or Dallas. California? LA or SF. Florida? Orlando, if they know one at all. New York? Of course, New York. Nevada? Las Vegas. Illinois? Chicago. And so on. Was there a system in it, like: Keep the government away from the big cities? Or did the business said: Keep away from the government?

Harald

You'll notice that things don't change much when you head north of the US. There are a number of capital cities here that aren't the largest in their province. Victoria is the capital of British Columbia even though Vancouver is bigger. Edmonton is the capital of Alberta, with just a slightly smaller population than Calgary. Saskatoon is the largest city in Saskatchewan, but the capital there is Regina. Even though Montreal is by far the largest city in Quebec, Quebec City is the capital. In New Brunswick, Saint John is the largest city, but Fredricton is the capital.

That pretty much sums up all of them, unless I missed one. People often confuse Toronto with being the capital of Canada, when really it is the capital of Ontario. The capital of Canada is Ottawa.

ngc3314
2004-Nov-10, 03:53 AM
Of course to an American, this is simple stuff compared to figuring out the regions and complex ineractions of the German Kreis and Länder. Just where are the borders of Schwaben? the Paltz? Franken? How have they moved? At least when West Virigina separated from Virginia it didn't move the border, it just created a new one. Bad Wimpfen has changed hands so many times I've lost count! :D

To insert slight astronomy relevance - when site selection for the 100-meter Effelsberg radio telescope was underway, the Eiffel region suggested itself through topography (lots of valleys to block radio interference, particularly from airborne as well as terrestrial NATO traffic...). The best location, as luck would have it, was exactly on the order between two Laender, and no one was particularly interested in handling two (possible mutually exclusive) sets of legal issues for land use, etc. That piece of the border was defined by a stream course. One will notice that the stream course today goes around the base of the telescope; the shovels and wheelbarrows seem to have been well hidden. (Hope the relevant statute of limitations has kicked in - otherwise I may have to edit this in a hurry to keep some people out of trouble...)