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ericleo
2013-Aug-08, 09:07 AM
Apologies if this has already been discussed. Some of you no doubt have read The Sirius Mystery by Robert Temple. In the book he reports that an obscure tribe in Africa, the Dogon, know Sirius has a companion star. They apparently knew that it was a white dwarf and was 'heavier' than Sirius A. They knew Sirius's B's orbital period. They have an elaborate mythology concerning the Sirius system. The more far-out speculation concerns amphibious beings from the Sirius system visiting Earth and seeding the Dogon's religious beliefs.Temple got this info from some French Anthropologists. Unless we dismiss the whole thing as an elaborate hoax how do we explain it?

Concerned
2013-Aug-08, 10:50 AM
News travels. I believe that it was the case, the Dogon people had heard about Sirius from western sources. I could be wrong.

Strange
2013-Aug-08, 11:13 AM
My understanding is that it was a combination of the original researcher introducing some of the information (presumably inadvertently) and over-interpreting what he was told. Later research cast a lot of doubt on the original story. I have seen a good summary somewhere, I'll see if I can find it again.

Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_people#Dogon_and_Sirius

tnjrp
2013-Aug-08, 11:23 AM
Ian Ridpath wrote a lengthy-ish article on Temple's book back in 1978:
http://www.thehallofmaat.com/modules.php?name=Articles&file=article&sid=46

Here's a shorter and more recent look at the Dogons' Sirius myth by Keith Fitzpatrick-Matthews. With some commentary pro and con.
http://www.badarchaeology.com/?page_id=585

Strange
2013-Aug-08, 11:31 AM
Another good article here: http://www.debunker.com/texts/dogon.html

ericleo
2013-Aug-08, 12:36 PM
Thanks for the fascinating links! I feel Temple has been discredited which leaves me wondering about another of his books I'm reading at present. It's The Crystal Sun, where he accumulates evidence that the use of lenses [crystal and glass] is more ancient than previously thought. I'm interested in the subject partly 'cause I once made a reflector 'scope! It's a fascinating read and here the evidence seems concrete enough: photos of crystal lenses with dates. Has anyone else read this book? If so I'd be interested in your thoughts!

tnjrp
2013-Aug-08, 01:00 PM
The Dogons' Sirius mystery is at least rather in serious doubt insofar as it entails information delivered in paranormal or supernatural fashion. I wouldn't go as far as saying that it automatically means all of Robert Temple's work (revisionist as much of it looks to be in nature) is "discredited". As to The Crystal Sun, here's an interview transcript from ABC Australia's science show with Temple and Dr. Mark Newbrook (click on "Show transcript" if necessary) which points out some problems with Temple's writing and interpretations (it also inevitably rehashes the Dogon myth):
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/ancient-telescopes/3483308#transcript

ericleo
2013-Aug-08, 02:57 PM
Thanks. I'll continue reading The Crystal Sun with a good pinch of scepticism!:rolleyes: [The picture on the front of the book could be a number of things; a musical instrument or a sighting stick to name 2 possibilities.