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NorthernDevo
2013-Sep-11, 06:31 AM
'Lo all!

You know; modern video games are really cool; with incredible graphics and special effects.
But there are almost none I've wanted to play at all in the past ten years.

Nowadays; all video games seem to be updated clones of earlier games. Years back, for example, the notorious Mortal Kombat hit the shelves; and ever since there have been bloody fight games up the hoo-ha. Earlier; Doom set the stage for first-person shooters; and susceptible gamers have been suffering from motion sickness ever since. (And yes; I'm susceptible.)

I really miss the Golden Age (as I call it) of computer games: the late Eighties to mid-Nineties. The time when computer gaming was new; the time when people just started realizing this collection of transistors could do more than calculate things.

The games of way back were unique and wonderful; they explored the limits of what computers could do. But one thing computers could not do back then was provide modern graphics.
So to interest gamers; they had to rely on things that do not seem to be important nowadays: storyline and gameplay.

There are of course exceptions - I'm a dedicated fan of both Portal and Portal II, but NOT for their superb graphics. Instead; I thrill to the astonishing gameplay; mind-blowing puzzles and brilliant writing involved in those two magnificent works.

I'm a devoted fan of Abandonware sites; and regularly download old games to enjoy. I still maintain to this day that the 1985 Paradroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradroid) is one of the very best games ever made. But recently out of boredom; I looked for one of the very oldest computer games: one that existed even before there was computer graphics at all.
During my summer week off; I downloaded and started playing Zork I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork_1); one of the great text adventures of my youth - it was released in 1980. More than 30 years old; I've long forgotten the puzzles so it was a fresh challenge.
Man - oh - man; I'd forgotten how good this game was. It was a text adventure; but in no way primitive. Zork is one of the most influential games ever made; filled with surprises, clever traps for the unwary, and wry left-of-center humour. Many of its inventions and phrases have become memes in today's culture. (Like 'Grues', for example.) I honestly doubt any later text adventure - and the vast majority of graphics-oriented games - can match Zork's subtelty and absorbing gameplay. This was a game which required a pad of paper, a pencil and a clear head to play. I've spent the last few days getting lost in the two mazes, cursing the thief, and desperately plumbing memories 33 years out of date for the right sequence of moves to get into the Underworld.

Just won it ten minutes ago...well; if you include the time spent writing this post; about thirty-five. I'm as thoroughly drained and satisfied as I was when I won Portal II a couple months ago.

So to sum up; don't dismiss the old games. They are often creative, absorbing and wonderful beyond anything made today. I state that Zork I, Paradroid and Homeworld (which I have not discussed) to be some of the greatest early games ever made. Do you have a favourite early game? Tell me why you like it; I'd love to try it out. :)

Cheers!

Solfe
2013-Sep-11, 12:15 PM
I have web site called theseoldgames.com. The problem is, I am too hooked to actually post game related material there. My favorites are Marathon, Bolo and Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. I still have some of the Infocom games on floppies.

Hlafordlaes
2013-Sep-11, 12:50 PM
I had a great collection of old games going back to Doom I mods I downloaded off CompuServe BSS forums pre-internet. I also had a good deal of my favorite PSOne games working on a nice emulator. The whole archive was placed on an older hard disk 'for a sec' while doing some maintenance, and the disk died moments later. All gone. Lucas Arts put out a lot of my favorite old games, including that marvelous classic, Full Throttle.

Don't panic. I'll rebuild someday.

caveman1917
2013-Sep-11, 01:59 PM
I cannot tell you how many hours (days? weeks?) of my life i have spent on the first X-Com (UFO defense) game (later iterations of the game are abominations in comparison). For anyone who wants to try, an open-source clone has been created (google for "openxcom"). The graphics were bad, the controls were laughable compared to modern standards, but the atmosphere that it created is something that no other game i ever played even came close to - for maximum effect play it at night with the lights out, but don't blame me if you hit your head jumping out of your chair in fear at times :)

JustAFriend
2013-Sep-11, 02:19 PM
In the early early days my wife and her brother were hugely addicted to the Zork text adventure games.
Now you can play it on-line (http://thcnet.net/zork/).

I was more of a Lunar Lander (http://my.ign.com/atari/lunar-lander) person...

R.A.F.
2013-Sep-11, 02:59 PM
I was more of a Lunar Lander (http://my.ign.com/atari/lunar-lander) person...

Darn...I was unaware that this was available to play on the internet...one of my favorite games* ever...thanks for posting that.



*...of course take into consideration that I remember when pong was the cutting edge of video games.

R.A.F.
2013-Sep-11, 03:05 PM
Personally, while I have a sentimental "love" for old video games, nothing "beats" taking out zombies in "new" games such as Dead Island.

iquestor
2013-Sep-11, 03:15 PM
anyone ever play collosal cave Adventure (http://rickadams.org/adventure/)? it was a great text based game and also was iconic.

If you love old PC games I also very highly reccomend reading "Ready Player One" (http://readyplayerone.com/) by Ernest Clive.

Solfe
2013-Sep-11, 04:09 PM
anyone ever play collosal cave Adventure (http://rickadams.org/adventure/)? it was a great text based game and also was iconic.

If you love old PC games I also very highly reccomend reading "Ready Player One" (http://readyplayerone.com/) by Ernest Clive.

I played Colossal Cave on my girlfriend's Osborne. This is completely ridiculous as this was about 1989-90 and I had a perfectly good Mac Performa 475 (basically an LC475) at home.

What makes this even sillier, my girlfriend's dad purchased two Osborne computers new (before 1980) to make sure his children had a mobile computer for when they entered college. In 1991 and 1995. Strangely, she was not that out of date compared to some of the hardware in the computer lab at school. The fact that it was her personal computer was pretty kick butt... if you are a nerd like me.

CJSF
2013-Sep-11, 04:37 PM
'Lo all!

I still maintain to this day that the 1985 Paradroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradroid) is one of the very best games ever made.

I LOVED that game. I was terribly addicted. When our C-64's graphics chip burned up in 1990, I was devastated that all these great games were now for all intents and purposes, gone. Then my best friend and I discovered a C-64 buried in sawdust in his parents' garage/workshop. I don't remember exactly how much use I got out of it, but I am pretty sure it was up until around the time I entered college in 1992. I've tried playing some of my favorites on emulators recently, but haven't found anything that works well enough for my taste. My favorites included Paradroid, Elite, Rescue on Fractalus!, Star Soldier, Raid on Bungling Bay, Raid Over Moscow... oh my too many to list.

CJSF

redshifter
2013-Sep-11, 06:25 PM
I miss the arcade games of the late 70's - 80's. Luckily for me, there's a tavern fairly close that has a few dozen - asteroids, robotron, defender, etc.

KaiYeves
2013-Sep-11, 07:17 PM
When I was at Yale Summer Session, my dorm had a free Pac-Man machine. As in, you didn't need quarters.

I gave myself minor repetitive stress injury from playing.

Noclevername
2013-Sep-11, 07:43 PM
I've found an analog simulation of Pong! You just need a flat table, a round ball, and some way to hit it back and forth...

starcanuck64
2013-Sep-11, 07:50 PM
I have web site called theseoldgames.com. The problem is, I am too hooked to actually post game related material there. My favorites are Marathon, Bolo and Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. I still have some of the Infocom games on floppies.

Infocom put out a 20 pack of it's best games for the Amiga, that's one reason I'm still holding onto my 3000.

There's an earlier thread on this with some good links, Lemmings (http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/index.php) is a lot of fun.

http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthread.php?138073-Old-school-gaming

starcanuck64
2013-Sep-11, 08:05 PM
Darn...I was unaware that this was available to play on the internet...one of my favorite games* ever...thanks for posting that.


I can't say it was a favorite, I spent a lot of time cursing over this game.:)

edit: Yup, things haven't changed.

AGN Fuel
2013-Sep-12, 03:47 AM
Re the OP, can I just agree that Zork was (is) a really wonderful game to play. The OP has made me want to try and find it again (it's in a cupboard somewhere, unless the wife has "spring-cleaned" it while I wasn't looking...).

If I am looking to completely veg out, I will still occasionally dig out Pacman (with the volume on mute...).

But a true lifesaver: a couple of years ago, my car broke down while driving I was driving in outback NSW. After being towed 110km to the nearest "town" (population 23, plus 97,000 sheep...), I was told it would take 2 days to get the spare parts to repair my car. My initial panic vanished though when I found that local pub had an old (but perfectly functioning) Defender machine. For all I know, it was the last one in Australia that wasn't in a museum. I probably spent as much on that machine as I did on my accommodation over those two days.......

KaiYeves
2013-Sep-12, 01:07 PM
I've found an analog simulation of Pong! You just need a flat table, a round ball, and some way to hit it back and forth...

Oh, I've tried that, it's fun!

SkepticJ
2013-Sep-12, 09:26 PM
F-19 Stealth Fighter was a sweet game. It was a pretty realistic combat flight simulator, for the day.

CJSF
2013-Sep-12, 09:32 PM
My good friend and I played F-15 Strike Eagle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15_Strike_Eagle_%28video_game%29) so often we became expertly in tune with each other - one would fly and the other manage the ordinance and radar.

CJSF

SeanF
2013-Sep-13, 03:35 PM
When I was at Yale Summer Session, my dorm had a free Pac-Man machine. As in, you didn't need quarters.

I gave myself minor repetitive stress injury from playing.
I have an arcade console with Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong, Jr., and Mario Bros. in my basement. No quarters required. :)

swampyankee
2013-Sep-13, 11:50 PM
Does anybody here remember trek? It was installed on most *ix systems floating around in the 1980s and 1990s. Silly suits probably suppressed it.

Solfe
2013-Sep-13, 11:53 PM
Does anybody here remember trek? It was installed on most *ix systems floating around in the 1980s and 1990s. Silly suits probably suppressed it.

The one with the grid and you fought over each square?

Hlafordlaes
2013-Sep-14, 07:14 PM
... I've tried playing some of my favorites on emulators recently, but haven't found anything that works well enough for my taste.... CJSF

Not sure about C-64 emulators, since I've never tried one, but many console emulation programs seem to benefit greatly from Intel chips having SSE 4.1. That's common to all Intel chips for the last few generations, but if you're like me and still on a Core2 motherboard, you would need to upgrade to a Wolfdale CPU (E7*** series and above.) Nabbed an E7600 off eBay for my venerable 4CoreDual-VSTA, and can run emus no prob.

Buttercup
2013-Sep-14, 07:23 PM
Hopefully I won't offend anyone, but the computer games of 1807 were particularly bad. I remember how frustrating THAT was, with no electricity. :hand:

Hlafordlaes
2013-Sep-14, 07:35 PM
Yeah, my donkeys always stopped chasing the carrot around the generator right when I was fighting the final boss. Used to have to hack the neighbor's windmill, and he had big dogs! Gaming life is too safe nowadays...

swampyankee
2013-Sep-14, 10:05 PM
The one with the grid and you fought over each square?

Yes. That's it. May be some time to do some reverse engineering ;)

Solfe
2013-Sep-15, 01:50 AM
Yes. That's it. May be some time to do some reverse engineering ;)

I am guessing you don't need to go that far. I believe there was a series of Macintosh discs by David Pogue called "Secrets" or "Best of MUG..." that had the game. If I can figure out what it is called, I am sure I can track down a legit link. You may need emulation software for OS 6 to 9.

publiusr
2013-Sep-15, 08:35 PM
I think there was one called tank battle--wirefram and all.

Solfe
2013-Sep-15, 10:33 PM
Spectre? I have that one.

Romanus
2013-Sep-16, 03:04 AM
I miss the Space Quest games, terribly. I can play II through V in my sleep.

Moose
2013-Sep-16, 11:59 AM
I miss the Space Quest games, terribly. I can play II through V in my sleep.

[dangles two links teasingly] Guess what Iiiiiiii've got. :D

Yoink! (http://www.gog.com/game/space_quest_1_2_3)

Yoink yoink! (http://www.gog.com/game/space_quest_4_5_6)

All the Sierra golden age classics are available on GOG. They work on modern windows, too. :) (Not sure about 8, but 7x64 for certain.)

BTW, IIRC, a few of us got the Alpha Centauri game through them. It seems Alien Crossfire is now available through an update.

primummobile
2013-Sep-16, 03:04 PM
We had a game called Below the Root for the Apple II when I was in elementary school. I always loved that game. I downloaded it a couple years ago, but I had to download another application to slow down the processor in my computer. I still haven't managed to quite get it right.

Romanus
2013-Sep-16, 04:17 PM
Thank you kindly, Moose. :)

NorthernDevo
2013-Sep-17, 01:26 AM
Hey, I remember that! I loved BTR; enough that I went out and found the original John Wyndham novel. Not a patch on the game; IMO :)

It was a beautiful game; climbing and soaring through the forests of Green-Sky and completely non-violent.

Great thoughts and responses everyone; many of my old faves - from Raid Over Moscow to Defender - are coming out. :)

Here's one some may remember: Not a computer game but an early-90's arcade game: Rolling Thunder. Dunno how many thousands of quarters I dropped into that machine - your character is a Bond-esque secret agent infiltrating a mad doctor's hideout to rescue your girfriend (and doing so in a rather natty red turtleneck and grey trousers, complete with shoulder holster)
Fun, fun, fun side scroller. :)

Moose
2013-Sep-17, 01:41 AM
I remember Below the Root, Raid Over Moscow and Rolling Thunder quite fondly. :) Also Movie Monster Game and Racing Destruction Set (both for the C64).

(For Raid Over Moscow, my uncle had a mini sidecar joystick on his C128, in addition to the full sized joystick. The sidecar stick made the hanger launches so much easier for me.)

HenrikOlsen
2013-Sep-22, 12:04 PM
Elite, I remember consistently landing faster on manual than with autodocking.
It taught me no-fixed-up 3D-thinking to the point where I found EVE Online to be irritatingly primitive in its 2D thinking.

JohnD
2013-Sep-22, 08:34 PM
I suppose that you-all don't remember Elite, because the BBC Micro never penetrated the US.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(video_game)

But here's a demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZT6ItqZ2xc
Watch, as you refuel, rearm and stock your spaceship with trade goods, launch and then select your destination, optimising the trade - or banditry - opportunities. Then land, trade and upgrade your weaponry.
The demo doesn't include any fighting, which was blindingly better than any game before and for a long time afterwards, or spacemining, or bounty hunting as well as pure piracy, all of which were options, each with advantages and penalties.
Yes, it looks impossibly crude today, but who cares? It was incredibly good game play, and that is what matters.
The description is a bit unfair - the BBC Micro had a lot more than a 'bleeper', it had a fully programmable sound generator and the game was accompanied by many rather good sound effects, for each different weapon.
Elite is to be revived by one of the authors, Dave Braben, as a Kickstarter project. There are several 'teaser' videos illustrating work in progress on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE8B4KptyVI&feature=player_embedded

John

PS, and Edit! Henrik got there before me! 'Elite', Henrik, 'Deadly' or just 'Dangerous'?

starcanuck64
2013-Sep-22, 09:05 PM
I'm currently playing a game that sounds similar to that called Transcendence available as a 10.6 MB download as freeware.

http://www.download-free-games.com/freeware_games/transcendence.htm

Be warned, I'm finding it very addictive.

HenrikOlsen
2013-Sep-22, 11:42 PM
The PC version of Elite is a 49KB download. :)

And Elite is a first-person fully 3D space shooter, not the third-person 2D Asteroids clone that Trancendence looks to be from the demo in that link.


PS, and Edit! Henrik got there before me! 'Elite', Henrik, 'Deadly' or just 'Dangerous'?
I played the early PC version.
I made deadly if I remember correctly, the kill number for Elite was rather high.

The demo missed a really neat trick for tuning your ship for survival in the early game, which was to transfer the Pulse Laser to the rear (by losing a bit of money by selling it and buying it again).
Shooting backwards while being pursued was much better for not dying than having to fly towards the opponent while severely outgunned.

CJSF
2013-Sep-23, 11:06 AM
I think I listed Elite in my favorites back a few posts. I played it on the C-64 and, like Henrik, I quickly developed my 3D thinking and spatial concepts from it. For me it was always so difficult to refrain from firing on ships for no reason, just to get chased down by the police forces. It usually ended badly, but man it was fun!

CJSF

Solfe
2013-Sep-23, 12:04 PM
Elite sounds vaguely like "Star Smuggler", a pen and paper game.

NEOWatcher
2013-Sep-23, 01:21 PM
Did anybody have Phantoms of the Asteroid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKnjK8a7P6A)?

Part of the fun was drawing a detailed map of the asteroid. With the sprite guy being about a half inch tall, I had a map that was about 5ftx4ft and I never finished the game.

It certainly was a lot better than the Tooth Invaders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5w-GsQ4khY) cartridge that came with the machine.

Swift
2013-Sep-23, 01:24 PM
This thread got me to thinking about one of my old favorites, Ascendancy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendancy_(video_game)), and then I made the mistake of finding a free download of it and playing it till about 2 a.m.

CJSF
2013-Sep-23, 01:52 PM
Did anybody have Phantoms of the Asteroid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKnjK8a7P6A)?

It certainly was a lot better than the Tooth Invaders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5w-GsQ4khY) cartridge that came with the machine.

I had COMPLETELY blocked the memory of this game from my mind, until now! Thanks A LOT. :-P

CJSF

primummobile
2013-Sep-23, 02:36 PM
This thread got me to thinking about one of my old favorites, Ascendancy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendancy_(video_game)), and then I made the mistake of finding a free download ņof it and playing it till about 2 a.m.

I do that with old Atari 2600 ROMs. My wife thinks I am crazy.

I was helping my parents clean their attic last year and I found our old Sears video game system. I didn't find any of the cartridges, but it came preloaded with a version of Pong and another game similar to Pong. One of these days I am going to get a coax adaptor for it and hook it up to the TV.

At the same time, I also found my old Atari 800xl computer with disk drive, tape drive, and daisy wheel printer. In taught myself BASIC on that thing when I was in third grade. I plan to get it running sometime too. It would also take game cartridges, and I had an arcade quality version of Donkey Kong for that.

HenrikOlsen
2013-Sep-23, 03:33 PM
Found Elite and yes, that's a 49KB exe file for the entire game. Runs perfectly in dosbox.

They used a really cute hack where all planetary systems are procedurally generated based on a deterministic random number generator, so the seeds for the 8 galaxies and the procedure is all the program needs to generate the whole universe, no need to store anything else.

After one failed docking I got the controls set as I liked them back then and even with the laser transferred to the back so there's no targeting reticule I nailed the second docking.
Some reflexes you just don't forget. :D

starcanuck64
2013-Sep-23, 08:38 PM
The PC version of Elite is a 49KB download. :)

And Elite is a first-person fully 3D space shooter, not the third-person 2D Asteroids clone that Trancendence looks to be from the demo in that link.

Yup, it takes the basic Asteroids idea then adds a bunch of stuff. You can upgrade your weapons, armor, shielding, reactors, etc...

Elite sounds like another game I'm going to get hooked on.

Hlafordlaes
2013-Sep-26, 01:21 AM
OK, maybe you won't like this one, but is anyone else an avid player of Internet Hearts under Windows? I keep XP Mode under Win7 just for that.

Every once in a while I find I must enjoy doing the Queen's gambit (have Queen, starve spades out, feint moon shot, drop Queen and all havoc.) You can feel the panic over the interwebs as the horror dawns on your opponents. Am I evil, sick and evil, or ... almost as bad as you?

LotusExcelle
2013-Sep-26, 02:48 AM
I had not only Elite (for the 64) but also Elite II (Amiga). One of my favorites, though, is Cybercon III. To this day I've only ever made it about 1/4 of the way through even with walkthrough guides and videos. Stunningly difficult.

Luckmeister
2013-Sep-26, 03:58 AM
Infocom put out a 20 pack of it's best games for the Amiga, that's one reason I'm still holding onto my 3000.

One of my favorite games on my Amiga 1000 was Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards. I also loved EA's Mean 18 where I could totally design my own golf course.

A friend wrote and sold text adventure games in the late 1970's on his IMSAI 8080. I enjoyed being the first beta tester for games like Uncle Harry's Will.

Solfe
2013-Sep-26, 04:24 AM
OK, maybe you won't like this one, but is anyone else an avid player of Internet Hearts under Windows? I keep XP Mode under Win7 just for that.

Every once in a while I find I must enjoy doing the Queen's gambit (have Queen, starve spades out, feint moon shot, drop Queen and all havoc.) You can feel the panic over the interwebs as the horror dawns on your opponents. Am I evil, sick and evil, or ... almost as bad as you?

I had a bad moment playing Hearts with real people. We swapped cards and out of nowhere the dealer announces, "It would be easy to go nil, if I didn't have all these hearts."

There was a beat and we waited for the punchline, but there wasn't one. We played a whole hand in silence as the rest of us exchanged glances and nods as he played cards in whatever game he imagined he was playing. I have never seen someone so sure of themselves while obviously having no clue since the original Pink Panther Movies.

starcanuck64
2013-Sep-26, 09:18 PM
One of my favorite games on my Amiga 1000 was Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards. I also loved EA's Mean 18 where I could totally design my own golf course.

A friend wrote and sold text adventure games in the late 1970's on his IMSAI 8080. I enjoyed being the first beta tester for games like Uncle Harry's Will.

They seem pretty simple now but I remember how excited I was to get my first game which was Zork II. I had to drive to the nearest big center about 150 miles away to pick up my C-64 and software.

My nephew loved Leisure Suit Larry, he knew it front to back, but I was more into combat sims like Falcon and the Bullfrog games like Populous and Overlord. The first SimCity also ate up a lot of my time. Digital Paint and some of the 3-D modeling software were also really nice on the Amiga, I had the non-broadcast version of Caligari which had some interesting features.

JohnD
2013-Oct-01, 10:25 PM
Gosh, I didn't expect so many Elite fans!
A new fans too, thanks to Hendrik suggesting the download.

FYI, here is Dave Braben's site for the new Elite, Frontier: http://elite.frontier.co.uk/

Ian Bell was his partner-author in the original game and his Elite site, and the page for downloads (of two different versins) is here: http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/pc/

JOhn

Doodler
2013-Oct-11, 03:20 PM
I still miss the original X-Com: Enemy Unknown. I kept a zombie alive in my office for years so I could play it. Cried my eyes out the day that 486 finally died. Whenever I tried running it on a newer machine, the CPU clocking would make the world map on the slowest speed blur by like a scene out of The Time Machine... The new X-Com, despite some changes, recaptured the old glory very nicely.

I still miss Star Control 2 and others like it. A slightly newer game I miss, although I have a Sega Genesis emulator that runs it well, is Shadowrun. Great P&P RPG that made a fantastic leap to the game systems of the era. There's a new Shadowrun Returns that carries on the tradition now, but that was a great story it had.

caveman1917
2013-Oct-11, 06:18 PM
I still miss the original X-Com: Enemy Unknown. I kept a zombie alive in my office for years so I could play it. Cried my eyes out the day that 486 finally died. Whenever I tried running it on a newer machine, the CPU clocking would make the world map on the slowest speed blur by like a scene out of The Time Machine...
->

I cannot tell you how many hours (days? weeks?) of my life i have spent on the first X-Com (UFO defense) game (later iterations of the game are abominations in comparison). For anyone who wants to try, an open-source clone has been created (google for "openxcom").

Cruithne3753
2013-Oct-14, 05:16 PM
Here's David Braben giving a talk about the making of Elite (http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014628/Classic-Game-Postmortem).

I've been playing Oolite (http://www.oolite.org/), an open source and moddable remake.


I had not only Elite (for the 64) but also Elite II (Amiga). One of my favorites, though, is Cybercon III. To this day I've only ever made it about 1/4 of the way through even with walkthrough guides and videos. Stunningly difficult.

Cybercon III was AFAIK the first game of its type to use rendering portals, which meant the whole game map was one contiguous 3D space rather than open doorways appearing as blank rectangles. The polygon graphics may have been (very) basic by today's standards, but they could convey a good sense of vertiginous drops. I managed to play it through about a year ago in WinUAE Amiga emulator, with LOTS of saving and restoring of snapshots! I'd like to see a remake, or something inspired by it in the same vein.

LotusExcelle
2013-Oct-15, 12:16 AM
Here's David Braben giving a talk about the making of Elite (http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014628/Classic-Game-Postmortem).

I've been playing Oolite (http://www.oolite.org/), an open source and moddable remake.



Cybercon III was AFAIK the first game of its type to use rendering portals, which meant the whole game map was one contiguous 3D space rather than open doorways appearing as blank rectangles. The polygon graphics may have been (very) basic by today's standards, but they could convey a good sense of vertiginous drops. I managed to play it through about a year ago in WinUAE Amiga emulator, with LOTS of saving and restoring of snapshots! I'd like to see a remake, or something inspired by it in the same vein.

I have to say that I'm impressed that you completed Cybercon. Every now and then I fire up the emulator and have a go at something like that but I've never managed to get terribly far. I would love to see that game with modern rendering but the core of it unchanged. Every door opening had me turning on my shields and running for cover. Its one of the few games that really uses sound to scare you (and possibly the only one from that era). I had some version of it that didn't require the black on black code wheel but I can't recall why or what platform. Might have been UAE.

Githyanki
2013-Oct-17, 12:13 AM
I really stopped playing video games about a decade ago; now, I only get games with a good level-editor. I change back to a new computer with XP instead of Seven; however, due to me using a more powerful processor, some of my old games just won't run. What's sad is there's no tech-support for them as the companies when out of business!

I'll include a list just in case someone else here knows the solution!

Games that don't run:
Cossacks 2
American Conquest: Fight Back.
Soldiers of Anarchy
War Times

Games that runs just fine
Starcraft
Outlive
Caesar 3
Age of Empires /Kings /SWGB series
American Conquest: Divided-Nation
Celt-Kings / Imperivm III
Norhtland's
Civilization 3

I'm sad about Soldiers of Anarchy and Cossacks 2: SoA has an awesome level-editor; I can rotate buildings and resize things: I considered like a virtual model-train set; but alas, it won't run: visual basics isn't compatible with my processor :(.

Note: all of these ran just fine with Windows Seven. And yes, all are compatible with XP.

Solfe
2013-Oct-17, 12:25 AM
I am looking at Simutronics Gemstone IV online game. I feel another bout of addiction coming on.

chrissy
2013-Oct-17, 05:07 PM
I used to be addicted to the Nick Faldo's championship golf for the Amiga 500, coming home from work pop the computer into the TV for a larger monitor and chill out until the early hours of the morning.....ahhhhhh those were the days.

Back when the Amstrad CPC 464 came out many moons ago, Booty was the game for me, only down side was waiting for the tapes to load into the computer.

However, Chucky egg, streets of rage and sonic the hedgehog were quite addictive for me on the saga mega drive, I have all the saga games loaded onto my desk top.
Ohhhh! Those cheeky platform games. :)

publiusr
2013-Oct-19, 06:05 PM
I think the very first computer game was using a Commode 64 as shotput out the window

Solfe
2013-Oct-21, 04:25 PM
Back when the Amstrad CPC 464 came out many moons ago, Booty was the game for me, only down side was waiting for the tapes to load into the computer.

One day, my children jumped on our computer (windows 7, touch screen) and started screaming "AAAAA-WAAAGGG-OOOO!"

I asked them what the heck they were doing and they replied, in unison: "Getting on the information superhighway!"

They quoted MST3K at me and had no knowledge of what that sound actually represented. I am both proud and a little scared Child Protective Services may pay me a visit.

Moose
2013-Oct-21, 05:01 PM
They quoted MST3K at me and had no knowledge of what that sound actually represented.

I could use a hint, I'm afraid.

Solfe
2013-Oct-21, 06:25 PM
I could use a hint, I'm afraid.The sound a 300 baud modem makes when handshaking. "AAAAA-WAAAGGG-OOOO!"

Moose
2013-Oct-21, 06:57 PM
Heh, okay, yeah, I see it now. You lose something without the actual sound effects. *chuckle* You should show them a typewriter and cassette tape sometime.

Chuck
2013-Oct-21, 08:15 PM
I spent hours playing Taipan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipan!) on my TRS-80 in the early eighties.

chrissy
2013-Oct-21, 10:03 PM
The sound a 300 baud modem makes when handshaking. "AAAAA-WAAAGGG-OOOO!"

OMG! I forgot about the screeching sound the Amstrad made when the cassette was loading, that just reminded me of it. Nails running down a chalk board inclusive. *Puts hands over the ears and tries to block it out...LAH, LAH, LAH*

Chuck
2013-Oct-22, 12:06 AM
I had a 300 baud modem for my TRS-80. I was on an online service called The Source. When I dropped ice cubes into a glass random characters would appear on my screen.

Moose
2013-Oct-22, 02:34 AM
I spent hours playing Taipan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipan!) on my TRS-80 in the early eighties.

You still can. There's a freeware version out there. Nonags appears to still have it (http://www.nonags.com/freeware-taipan-for-windows_1017.html). IIRC, 8 turns to a million is my personal record. Only ever did it twice.

Chuck
2013-Oct-22, 12:50 PM
Thanks.

I don't remember much about playing the game. I vaguely remember editing the program to increase the victory requirement.

Moose
2013-Oct-22, 11:23 PM
I don't remember much about playing the game. I vaguely remember editing the program to increase the victory requirement.

This version doesn't actually have a victory requirement that I can detect. I stopped at 2 billion, once.

Bobbar
2013-Oct-23, 12:59 PM
I recall my Dad showing me Jet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_(video_game)) on a Cordata CS40 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordata_CS40) in glorious, green monochrome, 1 frame-per-second goodness.