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2014-Jul-02, 01:01 AM
Looks like the Russian super heavy rocket is still in discussion stage. Another meeting to be held in August to discuss it.

http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Russia_creates_super_heavy_rocket_for_Lunar_Martia n_programs_999.html

The Russian state corporation Roscosmos intends to hold a meeting in August on developing super-heavy rocket carrier involving a wide range of enterprises of the industry. "In early August we will hold a meeting in Samara, during which we will form cooperation and discuss the plan to design the rocket carrier," Roscosmos head Oleg Ostapenko told reporters on Monday.

"We have calculated - at the first stage we able to make a rocket, which will bring 70-80 tonnes useful cargo to the low-Earth orbit. Then, upon modernizing it, [we able to make] the rocket, which will carry from 120 tonnes and more, and up to 190 tonnes in future," Ostapenko said.

John Mendenhall
2014-Jul-02, 01:58 AM
Well, it sounds better than our current attempts. I wish them luck.

2014-Jul-02, 12:31 PM
Well, it sounds better than our current attempts. I wish them luck.
Hoping to build one is better than actually starting to build one?

NASA has the avionics and engine just about ready to go, NASA has tank components being built and tested. There's three more years to go.

What is wrong with this attempt?

2014-Jul-06, 08:16 PM
SLS is ahead of schedule--it looks to be a done deal now


"After completing a critical design review, Boeing Co. has finalized a $2.8-billion contract with the space agency. The deal allows full production on the rocket to begin."

The other Russian concepts

2014-Jul-07, 12:29 PM
SLS is ahead of schedule--it looks to be a done deal now
You must have read that somewhere else. While true, it's not in that article.

2014-Aug-02, 08:31 AM
The RD-0120 engine, which was the second (core) stage of the giant Energia booster, might make a come back.


The RD-0120 engine became the most powerful Soviet rocket engine with a single combustion chamber ever flown and it represented the technological pinacle of rocket propulsion in the USSR. The engine was reportedly assembled out of 5,525 components and required 52,000 separate blueprints.

The 200-ton-thrust engine had the capability to gimbal up to 11 degrees along two perpendicular axis in order to steer the Energia rocket in flight. In addition to its main role as a thrust generator, the RD-0120 was also supplying gaseous hydrogen for the pressurization of the oxidizer tank onboard the Energia rocket.

After more than a decade in development, a cluster of four RD-0120 engines performed flawlessly during two launches of the Energia rocket in May 1987 and November 1988. The second Energia launch delivered the 100-ton Buran orbiter into the Earth orbit.

2014-Aug-02, 07:27 PM
I saw that today.

That is essentially a channel wall SSME/RS-25

Glushko had little use for LH2, but his F-1 class RD-170 class Zenit/Energiya strap-on engines had much more trouble in their development.
RD-0120 had a much easier time of it.

Great that they are being looked at again.

Now for us to counter by finally making M-1

2016-Jan-10, 09:40 AM
Russia is still working on their super-heavy launch vehicle. It was put off at one time and they were going to develop the Angara-A5V. Now with the reorganization of the Russian space companies it is back to the drawing board.


However, the main challenges for the new state-run corporation could be budget cuts and competitiveness on the commercial launch market. The updated version of the Federal Space Program (FSP) for 2016-2025 suspends the Russian manned lunar exploration program. Roscosmos would rather focus on the development of a new super-heavy launch vehicle for deep space exploration purposes. The corporation has already begun the work on this rocket’s first stage, which has been named Fenix.

2016-Jan-10, 01:01 PM
More information on the Fenix rocket that will be the 1st stage of Russian's proposed new super heavy rocket.


Russia has begun the work on the creation of a super-heavy space rocket, its first step will be the Fenix rocket, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said in an interview with the Rossiya-24 TV channel. "In fact, the work on the new space program has been started, I tell you this as some serious news on the super-heavy rocket," the deputy prime minister said. The official said that if the Angara rocket is like a jeep capable of taking to orbit 7 tons of payload in the light variant and up to 37 tons — in the heavy variant, then for major expeditions it is necessary to have a "dump truck." "The super-heavy rocket will be such "dump truck", but we are getting down to its creation like the Soviet Union had embarked on such project — first it created the Zenit rocket that was the first stage of the super-heavy rocket Energia, and only after that additional modules were created for such unique rocket," he said. "We are now creating it on a totally new technology basis, and the creation of the Fenix rocket, which will become the first stage of the super-heavy rocket, is envisaged in the new federal space program. Rogozin added that the payload capacity of this rocket will exceed 100 tons, and maybe even 150 tons.

2016-Jan-10, 08:57 PM
Let's hope this Fenix can rise from the ashes of Energiya.