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Candy
2005-Jan-01, 01:04 PM
Virgin Galactic (http://www.virgingalactic.com/) <--website

By the end of the decade, Virgin Galactic - the most exciting development in the story of modern space history - is planning to make it possible for almost anyone to visit the final frontier at an affordable price.
ToSeek (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=349532#349532)
Tuckerfan (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=353352#353352)


I looked through some of the old posts, and I couldn't find Virgin Galactic's website. I just saw a spokesperson from Conde Nast talking about this on CBS, The Saturday Early Show. :D

Can someone buy me a ticket? 8-[

Maksutov
2005-Jan-01, 01:07 PM
Based on the name, it appears one has to be a virgin to fly. Ticket by proxy maybe? :wink:

Candy
2005-Jan-01, 02:05 PM
Based on the name, it appears one has to be a virgin to fly. Ticket by proxy maybe? :wink:
I'm a virgin to sub-orbital space travel. Does that count? :wink:

iron4
2005-Jan-01, 05:27 PM
I imagine how will be such voyages: drinking Virgin coke, hearing CDs of Virging music and playing videogames of Virgin Interactive

Silent Knight
2005-Jan-01, 09:34 PM
They were talking about this on Rebel Billionaire (http://www.fox.com/rebelbillionaire/). Branson is giving away his company.

paulie jay
2005-Jan-01, 10:52 PM
I imagine how will be such voyages: drinking Virgin coke, hearing CDs of Virging music and playing videogames of Virgin Interactive
And they still take off 30 minutes late and manage to lose your luggage...

Theta Orionis
2005-Jan-02, 02:45 AM
Virgin Galactic?
That's a bit of a ambitious name for a sub-orbital craft.

Tuckerfan
2005-Jan-02, 03:41 AM
Someone ran the numbers on another website, and their conclusion was that once the first round of ticket passengers (presently 7K or so) had paid for their tickets and taken their flights, the next set of tickets could be sold for a lot less. Like $5K a pop or so. Keep your fingers crossed, folks.

Tuckerfan
2005-Jan-03, 05:12 AM
Wired interview with Branson. (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.01/branson.html)

Maksutov
2005-Jan-03, 05:45 AM
Virgin Galactic?
That's a bit of a ambitious name for a sub-orbital craft.
Sometimes start-ups get a little carried away with their names. Remember the guy who created CP/M, the first mainstream desktop operating system, back in the 1970s? He called his company "Intergalactic Digital Research".

Launch window
2005-Jan-04, 03:43 PM
Virgin Galactic (http://www.virgingalactic.com/) <--website

By the end of the decade, Virgin Galactic - the most exciting development in the story of modern space history - is planning to make it possible for almost anyone to visit the final frontier at an affordable price.
ToSeek (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=349532#349532)
Tuckerfan (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=353352#353352)


I looked through some of the old posts, and I couldn't find Virgin Galactic's website. I just saw a spokesperson from Conde Nast talking about this on CBS, The Saturday Early Show. :D

Can someone buy me a ticket? 8-[

great info 8)

Candy
2005-Jan-04, 03:55 PM
The first flights by Virgin Galactic are planned to begin in 2.5 to 3 years time. We plan to begin taking deposits early next year and will contact prospective astronauts who register online.

If you want to be one of those we contact, or simply want us to let you know what's happening with the development of the Virgin Galactic space tourism programme, fill in the form below.
I just registered. Perhaps, I'll be independently wealthy by then. :D

zebo-the-fat
2005-Jan-04, 09:49 PM
I just registered. Perhaps, I'll be independently wealthy by then.

Remember your poor friends when you get rich! :D

Andrew
2005-Jan-05, 08:36 PM
Virgin Galactic?
That's a bit of a ambitious name for a sub-orbital craft.

It's a play on the name Virgin Atlantic, Virgin's airline service.

Candy
2005-Sep-18, 01:07 AM
Here's part of an email I received with the Virgin Galactic updates. :)


THANK YOU for registering your interest at virgingalactic.com and welcome to this first update from Virgin Galactic.

The launch of Virgin Galactic last year and the news that Sir Richard Branson planned to take paying passengers into space suggests the Ansari X Prize has achieved its goal in providing the catalyst for commercial manned space travel. You and many thousands of other future astronauts from across the globe have brought that goal another step closer.

The Virgin Galactic team has been busy putting the foundations of the business in place and dealing with the enormous interest the initiative has generated. It has taken longer than we had hoped to respond to you and we would like to thank you for your patience. We are going to keep you regularly informed about developments at Virgin Galactic as our quest for commercial space travel moves closer to fruition.

MISSION UPDATE

DESIGN AND BUILD Work is well underway in the Mojave Desert on the initial design and technical feasibility of Virgin SpaceShip “Enterprise” and MotherShip “Eve”. Burt Rutan and his team at Scaled Composites are excited and encouraged by the results from this work.

Alex Tai, Head of Operations at Virgin Galactic explained, “Although we can’t divulge any details yet, we are confident that our safety and configuration specifications can and will be met and that we will very soon be able to move to the construction stage of the project”.

RESERVATION PROCESS Virgin Galactic is open for business! We are starting the process of taking reservations for the first year’s flights and will shortly be accepting deposits. Stephen Attenborough, Head of Astronaut Relations, recently enthused, “Our first astronauts will be pioneers in the true sense of the word; not only will they be amongst the world’s first commercial astronauts, but their early commitment will help to bring the project to fruition and pave the way for thousands of others to make the dream a reality".

Ticket prices for initial flights have been set at US$200,000. Flights are filling quickly but space is still available. Refundable deposits of at least $20,000 will be required to secure a seat. If you are ready to make a reservation, please click here to give us a few more details about yourself and we will contact you as soon as possible. The first 100 to fly will be invited to become Virgin Galactic Founders. Our Founders will help shape our plans over the next 3 years and enjoy unique access to the project as it develops.

Our aim is to reduce ticket prices as the business grows over the coming years. We plan to offer the opportunity to reserve these tickets by payment of a small deposit against a future space flight at a time and price that suits you.

publiusr
2005-Sep-21, 07:44 PM
i.e. send money for us to build the spaceship to begin with!--I'm too busy to spend money of my own 'cause I'm broke buying Airbus' planes.

Doodler
2005-Sep-21, 07:53 PM
I'm a virgin to sub-orbital space travel. Does that count? :wink:

I imagine there'll be jokes about the 60 mile high club before this is over...

Nicolas
2005-Sep-21, 11:02 PM
What was it, 3 minutes of weightlessness? ;):D

Candy
2005-Sep-21, 11:09 PM
What was it, 3 minutes of weightlessness? ;):D
According to scientific research, it would be more like 2 minutes or less. ;)

Nicolas
2005-Sep-22, 08:29 AM
I read they are building a new carrier ship as well. Is that because the SS2 is heavier than SS1 and hence can't be carried by WHite Knight?

Candy
2005-Sep-22, 08:34 AM
If you read it, why don't you link it?

Candy
2005-Sep-22, 08:36 AM
Never mind about what I just said. :)

Nicolas
2005-Sep-22, 08:53 AM
Because you did :D:)

Candy
2005-Sep-22, 08:59 AM
Where's the link man who dates arms?

Nicolas
2005-Sep-22, 10:04 AM
http://www.bautforum.com/showpost.php?p=559836&postcount=15 :roll:

I would like to see the plans for those craft! Just larger SS1/White Knights, or different looks? I think I should visit Scaled's website, it has been months since I went there :).

Candy
2005-Sep-22, 10:21 AM
I have a feeling your wishes will come true very soon. The BAUT has access to everything.

Candy
2005-Oct-04, 12:00 PM
virgingalactic.communicae (http://www.virgingalactic.com/Newsletter/Sept_newsletter/html_page/htmlpage_sept.htm)

THE VIRGIN GALACTIC SPACE CLUB
If you love everything to do with space, would like regular Virgin Galactic updates, receive numerous space facts, take part in chat forums, have your questions answered by experts in their field and to have a chance to win a ticket into space, then the Virgin Galactic Space Club is the one for you. We’ll be writing again soon to let you know how to join up.

FUTURE EVENTS
Virgin Galactic is planning to take part in Countdown to the X PRIZE CUP, which is to be held in New Mexico between 6 – 9th October 2005. The 2005 Countdown to the X PRIZE CUP will serve as the official unveiling of the 2006 inaugural X PRIZE CUP and Spaceflight Expo.
News from Virgin Galactic. :)

dacc00
2006-Jan-30, 04:25 PM
Hey! What do you guys think of the Virgin Galactic Space Club? i'd really like to go to space and this seems to be the only way I can afford it. Does anybody know about it or have any ideas for it. I hear it's a members club and they want input from the enthusiasts

Candy
2006-Jan-30, 08:37 PM
Hey! What do you guys think of the Virgin Galactic Space Club? i'd really like to go to space and this seems to be the only way I can afford it. Does anybody know about it or have any ideas for it. I hear it's a members club and they want input from the enthusiastsI haven't signed up for the Space Club, just the Newsletters. The Club looks interesting, though.

Virgin Galactic Home Page (http://www.virgingalactic.com/en/) for those interested in reading more. :)

JOIN THE VIRGIN GALACTIC QUEST

Virgin Galactic and Virgin Games will shortly be launching the Virgin Galactic Quest game.

Players from around the world will have the chance to pit their skills against each other on-line, as they navigate their Virgin Galactic Spaceships far out into the universe and cope with some of the hazards of deep space. This skill based game will give all players the chance to contend for the ultimate prize - to experience space travel for real, aboard a Virgin Galactic Spaceship!
To pre-register for the Virgin Galactic Quest or receive more information and news on the launch date, sign up at VIRGIN GALACTIC QUEST (http://www.virgingalacticquest.com/)

I’ll delve into this more someday… :D

mickal555
2006-Jan-31, 09:37 AM
And they still take off 30 minutes late and manage to lose your luggage...

And no TV!

mickal555
2006-Jan-31, 09:41 AM
I haven't signed up for the Space Club, just the Newsletters. The Club looks interesting, though.

Virgin Galactic Home Page (http://www.virgingalactic.com/en/) for those interested in reading more. :)

JOIN THE VIRGIN GALACTIC QUEST

To pre-register for the Virgin Galactic Quest or receive more information and news on the launch date, sign up at VIRGIN GALACTIC QUEST (http://www.virgingalacticquest.com/)

I’ll delve into this more someday… :D

sounds like fun :D

mickal555
2006-Jan-31, 09:44 AM
Woah
This could be the beggining of something big :D :D

Space here we come!

(sorry for all the posts- just really excited :D :D)

dacc00
2006-Jan-31, 12:11 PM
I just saw some of the club gear in a london press release. Really Funny! sttuff like, Virgin Galactic Weight Loss Program - Zero G Unit. They also have a really cool CREW - Suborbital Space Space Program. They're not selling any of it yet though. I think they're releasing it with the Space Club

Eric Vaxxine
2006-Jan-31, 12:28 PM
I see Mr Hoagland has his own ideas about Mr Bransons venture !

dacc00
2006-Jan-31, 12:33 PM
who is mr hoagland?

NEOWatcher
2006-Jan-31, 01:03 PM
I haven't signed up for the Space Club, just the Newsletters. The Club looks interesting, though.

Virgin Galactic Home Page (http://www.virgingalactic.com/en/) for those interested in reading more. :)

JOIN THE VIRGIN GALACTIC QUEST

To pre-register for the Virgin Galactic Quest or receive more information and news on the launch date, sign up at VIRGIN GALACTIC QUEST (http://www.virgingalacticquest.com/)

I’ll delve into this more someday… :D
Gee, talk about un-informative. Is it just me, or are all these sites just hot air? I wanted to see what this quest or club or whatever it is you are all talking about. i just saw a bunch of "register and we'll tell you later". And they're already late.


In Autumn 2005, Virgin Galactic (http://www.virgingalactic.com/) and Virgin Skill (http://www.virginskill.com/) will launch the Virgin Galactic Quest game
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Once the game is ready for launch we'll email you

Other than the scant news releases, I guess we can't follow the progress of the company, or the ship without giving them money.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-31, 01:04 PM
Richard C Hoagland. A hardliner conspiracy theorist who has problems with NASA ever since they got tired of his claims to fame, and who sees proof of cover-ups and extraterrestrial life everywhere, especially in compressed JPGs.

dacc00
2006-Jan-31, 01:18 PM
who is mr hoagland?

dacc00
2006-Jan-31, 01:18 PM
sorry for the repeat. disregard last message

dacc00
2006-Jan-31, 01:28 PM
The quest is a game run by Virgin Games. It's taken from a common game template but I think it's not working at the moment. I've heard a few things about the Club. It should be up and running in the next 3-4 months. It is run by Virgin Galactic and not Virgin Games. Once a member you can get gear, they had really cool shirts at the Oshkosh airshow that said "space is Virgin territory". Most important, they are giving away a ticket to space every year to members

NEOWatcher
2006-Jan-31, 01:41 PM
... they had really cool shirts at the Oshkosh airshow ...
Is that where you got your information? (Live and in person)
Too bad they can't show some of that stuff on their site, otherwise it just looks like just another ploy to get money.

I did a similar thing when they built the Rock Hall of fame. I was a founding member, but got a T-shirt, tickets, and a couple of other nick nacks that were worth close to the amount of membership.

dacc00
2006-Jan-31, 01:53 PM
Was it worth it for the hall of fame?
yeah, I went to the Oshkosh airshow and they were there with SSI and WhiteKnight. They said they had so many people interested and only stuff to offer to the $200,000 founders. That is why they said they are setting up the Space Club. It gives space exploation enthusiasts a way to get involved and makes the chance of a ticket available for those who cannot afford the full price. I hope they have a disscussion forum like this on their site. the space exploration industry could develop in any number of ways. It should be people like us who offer advice and not coorporate executives who've never been outside of a boardroom

NEOWatcher
2006-Jan-31, 02:34 PM
Was it worth it for the hall of fame?
Yes, because membership cost was about the same cost as a T-Shirt. Otherwise, I had no other reason to join.

They said they had so many people interested and only stuff to offer to the $200,000 founders. That is why they said they are setting up the Space Club. It gives space exploation enthusiasts a way to get involved and makes the chance of a ticket available for those who cannot afford the full price.
Translated (In my opinion)... We need a way to get money out of the people who can't afford us.
So far, I only see hype with VG. I'm hoping as time goes by, and things develop, it will be more reputable.

Candy
2006-Feb-10, 11:35 PM
ABC News - Private Spaceflights in Just Two Years? (http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=060210&cat=scitech&st=scitechsolo_flights_potter_060210&src=abc)

There is a growing number of companies making plans to carry passengers on suborbital flights to the edge of the atmosphere. Many of them are struggling start-up companies -- and many have gone out of business waiting for commercial spaceflight to become practical. But some, like Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic, are well-funded, and have said they will be ready to fly in two or three years.

<snip>

"We have an important role to play in ensuring the safety of commercial spaceflights, especially for passengers," Mineta said. "But we also have an obligation to encourage innovation and support new developments."

Virgin Galactic would fly a ship modeled on SpaceShipOne, which engineer Burt Rutan used in 2004 to win the $10 million Ansari X Prize. It would be lightweight, and its design -- similar to that of a badminton shuttlecock -- would make it inherently stable as it returned to the atmosphere.

Virgin Galactic said in December that 38,000 people had put down deposits for seats on early spaceflights. The initial cost -- obviously a barrier to all but the very rich -- would be $200,000.
According to this article, the Department of Transportation is promoting the Privatization of Space Travel. :dance:

tmosher
2006-Feb-11, 03:44 AM
According to this article, the Department of Transportation is promoting the Privatization of Space Travel. :dance:

Just wait under the Federal Aviation Administration gets involved...things will slow down real fast.

Yes, the FAA has a say about rocket launches in the United States.

Neo

mickal555
2006-Feb-15, 12:04 PM
FAA?

Dang...

I wanna go to space

Sigma_Orionis
2006-Feb-15, 12:43 PM
Sometimes start-ups get a little carried away with their names. Remember the guy who created CP/M, the first mainstream desktop operating system, back in the 1970s? He called his company "Intergalactic Digital Research".

That would be Gary Kidall :D Geez I didn't know that, by the time I started working with CP/M-80 the company was called just Digital Research

NEOWatcher
2006-Feb-15, 01:08 PM
Just wait under the Federal Aviation Administration gets involved...things will slow down real fast.

Yes, the FAA has a say about rocket launches in the United States.

Neo
According to Popsci they picked NewMexico because it is restricted airspace, and they already have an FAA exemption.

ciderman
2006-Nov-16, 04:04 AM
Some recent news/press from Virgin Galactic at space.com

http://www.space.com/news/061110_tai_galactic.html

I don't recall hearing about sub orbital point to point flights before, hmm, New York to LA in 90 mins perhaps:cool:

& VG have a nice swanky looking site here now
(previous links on this thread bust)

http://www.virgingalactic.com/
Might not be good with dial up(& gets my nomination for smallest & lest legible text on a website 2006).

Nicolas
2006-Nov-16, 08:37 AM
Zero G while strapped in ain't the full zero G experience, but anyway. It must be a nice thing to do these SS2 flights, if only for the outside view and the incredible forces.

Van Rijn
2006-Nov-16, 09:05 AM
Zero G while strapped in ain't the full zero G experience, but anyway. It must be a nice thing to do these SS2 flights, if only for the outside view and the incredible forces.


But will they be strapped in the whole time? They have about 3 minutes at zero g, as I recall. They have this fun CGI video:

http://www.space.com/php/video/player.php?video_id=Virgin_galactic01

where they get out of the seats. If it works out like that, it would be great. Given pre-flight training, it might be doable.

Edited to add: Looking at the video, it suggests would be more like 5 minutes on the SS2 (perhaps they're going higher).

Nicolas
2006-Nov-16, 09:22 AM
Very nice animation.

I see they are wearing a helmet, though it isn't necessary (at least not in SS1) as backup for survival, so I assume it's just to protect the head and eyes, and to look cool.

I assume the 2 or 1 pilots are in front of the instrument panel?

They conveniently don't show what I think will be a hard part to push through: to let the astronauts flow freely and make sure they're all strapped up before the re-entry. How will they assure that?

And do keep the hands inside when your seat goes down :).

Van Rijn
2006-Nov-16, 09:38 AM
Very nice animation.

I see they are wearing a helmet, though it isn't necessary (at least not in SS1) as backup for survival, so I assume it's just to protect the head and eyes, and to look cool.


After looking at that and thinking about it, a protective helmet could be a good idea for a bit more protection when you're bouncing around in there. Also, it looks like (assuming they follow what is being suggested in the video) that the helmet would include a heads-up display.



I assume the 2 or 1 pilots are in front of the instrument panel?


That would be my guess.



They conveniently don't show what I think will be a hard part to push through: to let the astronauts flow freely and make sure they're all strapped up before the re-entry. How will they assure that?


Looks like the astronauts are moving around fine. :) I am curious about safety and cabin operations. I'd guess they would have one crew member in back to watch over things, and I am sure there would be some fairly in-depth pre-flight training. I wouldn't be surprised if they would have a mock-up in a vomit comet type plane for drills.

NEOWatcher
2006-Nov-16, 01:07 PM
They conveniently don't show what I think will be a hard part to push through: to let the astronauts flow freely and make sure they're all strapped up before the re-entry. How will they assure that?
Did they float freely? One minute floating, then suddenly laying in their seats. Looked like a dream sequence to me. ;)

Nicolas
2006-Nov-16, 01:23 PM
In that case, that would be an even worse advertising "idea" than representing the 787 with a very nice shark tail that it will never have.

I assume they really plan on floating around, as the seats go into the floor. (I say it will take 10 flights before somebody is still holding onto the edge of his seat due to adrenaline by the time it goes into the floor, thereby losing 8 fingers in space ;))

Van Rijn
2006-Nov-16, 08:44 PM
Did they float freely? One minute floating, then suddenly laying in their seats. Looked like a dream sequence to me. ;)

They're just really fast!

I like the CGI, but they need to do a better job with a voiceover and some explanation.

ciderman
2006-Nov-16, 10:02 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they would have a mock-up in a vomit comet type plane for drills.

Indeed that's the plan, but they've been even smarter, from an interview with Burt Rutan at space.com,


Hauling a SpaceShipTwo into launch position will require use of a mega-mothership that’s patterned after the White Knight aircraft utilized for the Tier 1 program.

That giant airplane will have an identical cabin like that built into SpaceShipTwo. You can take up people and float them out of their chairs. “They can’t tell they are not in the spaceship,” Rutan said.

The mothership will be an aerobatic airplane, Rutan said, able to provide rehearsal runs..

“They can practice floating around, playing games, and to get into their positions for reentry and deceleration. We’ll be able to give them the entire reentry g profile and I think that’s extremely important,” Rutan noted.

Found here
http://www.space.com/news/060811_rutan_interview.html

Larry Jacks
2006-Nov-16, 10:19 PM
That makes a lot of sense. They used the White Knight as a trainer for SpaceShipOne. Not only was the cockpit nearly identical (primary difference was the engine controls), but reportedly the White Knight could be configured to mimic the flight characteristics of SSI. Doing the same thing for SS2 allows you to get much higher utilization out of the mothership.

Burt has been called many things over the years. Dumb isn't one of them.

Nicolas
2006-Nov-16, 11:27 PM
He may have been called the Devil by his structural engineers though :).


That giant airplane will have an identical cabin like that built into SpaceShipTwo. You can take up people and float them out of their chairs. “They can’t tell they are not in the spaceship,” Rutan said.

We are just 1 theremin away from the biggest scam of the century...

Nicolas
2006-Nov-16, 11:28 PM
The floating/rebuckling practice will have to be a quicky, as they'll have less than 30 seconds of zero G in an aircraft.

We had about 12 seconds in the Citation II. We remained buckled, as the cabin was not suitable for floating around at all (computers everywhere to name just one thing).

NEOWatcher
2006-Nov-17, 12:56 PM
He may have been called the Devil by his structural engineers though :).

That giant airplane will have an identical cabin like that built into SpaceShipTwo. You can take up people and float them out of their chairs. “They can’t tell they are not in the spaceship,” Rutan said.

We are just 1 theremin away from the biggest scam of the century...
So I was right...it is a dream sequence.:lol: