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MVAgusta1078RR
2014-Nov-05, 11:52 PM
Are there any equations like the Drake equation that estimate how many civilizations we come in contact with would be an artificial intelligence?

Is artificial intelligence inevitable for all intelligent life given that technology would keep advancing and the civilization doesn't go extinct?

Do we even know if advanced civilizations would have computers either classical or quantum computers or could they advance like our civilization or beyond without computers?

Noclevername
2014-Nov-06, 12:15 AM
Are there any equations like the Drake equation that estimate how many civilizations we come in contact with would be an artificial intelligence?

Is artificial intelligence inevitable for all intelligent life given that technology would keep advancing and the civilization doesn't go extinct?

Do we even know if advanced civilizations would have computers either classical or quantum computers or could they advance like our civilization or beyond without computers?

No, no, and no.

There's no equation for it.

There's no way to know what percentage of a civilization's population would be AI but it seems likely that at last some partly or fully biological beings would remain. AI minds might even decide to acquire bio-bodies just to see what it's like.

We don't have any way to predict what advances in computing may happen or what computing paths if any may lead to thinking AI.

As for the second part of the last question, "could they advance like our civilization or beyond without computers", if they have no computers then their technology won't be like ours. It would be a "sideways" technological path.

Githyanki
2014-Nov-12, 06:01 PM
You are assuming all space-faring civilizations mirror us; there is no evidence if, they even do or if there even are.

Noclevername
2014-Nov-12, 09:25 PM
You are assuming all space-faring civilizations mirror us; there is no evidence if, they even do or if there even are.

And our civilization has no self aware AI.

MVAgusta1078RR
2014-Nov-17, 09:28 AM
You are assuming all space-faring civilizations mirror us; there is no evidence if, they even do or if there even are.

Do we even know if advanced civilizations would have computers either classical or quantum computers or could they advance like our civilization or beyond without computers?
More importantly I should have asked would an advanced civilization even use math or did they develop something else to describe the universe.

Noclevername
2014-Nov-17, 09:31 AM
More importantly I should have asked would an advanced civilization even use math or did they develop something else to describe the universe.

If thy have no math, how could they reach advanced technology?

MVAgusta1078RR
2014-Nov-17, 10:01 AM
If thy have no math, how could they reach advanced technology?

A different technique other than the math we know, that we haven't thought of, how would anyone know that until we actually find an advanced civilization and their math is the same. Algebra didn't exist when Eratosthenes was around to measure the Earth, he figured it out himself. When I meant math I meant the techniques we're used to like algebra, trigonometry, calculus. Who knows if their eyes don't even see light like ours for instance what math they developed.