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Glom
2005-Jan-15, 05:01 PM
They are a real no-win situation. The guy prescribes set power settings and attitudes and complains when you deviate from them, but then he complains when you don't get the right airspeed or vertical speed. But attitude and power together control those so if you can't change them, then you can't change anything else. He sometimes says to adjust the pitch to achieve a certain speed and then says you have to climb and increase your speed at the same time which is not possible without increasing the power, which you are not allowed to touch.

And then, when he was supposed to be in control, a fact demonstrated by my controls not working, he then complained I wasn't doing it right and kicked me off the lesson.

There are some bugs in that software.

And if the C172 really requires that much back pressure to maintain level flight in the turn, then it sucks and the PA28 rules.

Colt
2005-Jan-15, 05:13 PM
:o I thought it was just me! I finally just gave up on them (pointless when you know how to fly anyway) and started flying this:

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/2315/henschel1.jpg

Oh, and this:

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/5158/soar.jpg


If anyone cares to know what they are, let me know and I'll dig it up. :) - Colt

Sever
2005-Jan-15, 11:07 PM
I'll guess.
The top one is the Northdrop Black Bullet(I forget the designation) and the bottom is the Curtis P-55 Ascender.

Colt
2005-Jan-16, 12:04 AM
The first one is a Heinkel He P1079B/II Prototype and the second is referred to as the Merlin by its creater. They can both be found somewhere on Simviation (http://www.simviation.com), let me know if you need help finding them. - Colt

enginelessjohn
2005-Jan-17, 09:15 AM
Forget FS2004 and download yourself a copy of X-Plane. Proper flight models, based on aerodynamics. Not quite as pretty, but certified (under certain cirumstances) for IFR training.

Cheers
John

jumbo
2005-Jan-17, 11:01 AM
Yes i thought the lessons were not quite right too. I spent several swear filled hours on them and decided not to bother and climbed about my nice shiny X-15. Shame about FS2004s 100000 foot and approx mach 4 limits.
X-Plane doesnt have either of those problems but i love virtual cockpits so i use FS2004 more often.

enginelessjohn
2005-Jan-17, 04:00 PM
I believe v8 of X-Plane has virtual cockpits so may be worth having a look. Not affiliated to X-Plane in any way...... :D

Cheers
John

Waarthog
2005-Jan-17, 05:53 PM
And if the C172 really requires that much back pressure to maintain level flight in the turn, then it sucks and the PA28 rules.
It does. But trim is your friend.

Colt
2005-Jan-18, 12:53 AM
I've seen stuff around for X-Plane but never looked into it... I already have 383 megs of mostly planes for CFS2 and FS2002/2004 though. Quite a number of those would be considered "X-planes" :P It would take me quite a while to install all of them at once. - Colt

tmosher
2005-Jan-18, 12:58 AM
And if the C172 really requires that much back pressure to maintain level flight in the turn, then it sucks and the PA28 rules.
It does. But trim is your friend.

You should try flying a Cessna 182 with only one or two aboard - trim is really your friend. Same in a Cessna 172 flown solo.

Waarthog
2005-Jan-18, 01:02 AM
Been there, done that, got the time logged. :) (a 182 RG even)

tmosher
2005-Jan-18, 01:07 AM
Been there, done that, got the time logged. :) (a 182 RG even)

Mine was a 1957 C182A rebuilt from a wreck - wings from one airplane, tail from another. One hundred hours in the puppy including the 30 hour - 5 day one-way cross-country to San Juan, PR.