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banquo's_bumble_puppy
2005-Feb-02, 11:36 AM
Why are so many of the horror movies coming out such let-downs? Saw "The Grudge" was disappointed...saw another one recently about a family that moved into this house and weird stuff starts to happen...the movie was soooo bad that I can't even remember the name....


I WANT "Constantine" to be good...because I like Keanu Reeves acting...but I've got a sinking feeling that it'll be just another big budget stinker.

It would be one thing if these movies would end up as "B" movie classics some day...but they just plain old suck...

ToSeek
2005-Feb-02, 02:58 PM
This is the time of year that studios release their weakest movies. A lot of them do seem to be horror movies this time around.

Disinfo Agent
2005-Feb-02, 03:06 PM
Read some reviews before you go watch a movie - many of them, positive and negative - and then decide whether you think you're likely to enjoy it. It will save you from the aggravation, and may save you some money.

Edited for grammar.

Wally
2005-Feb-02, 03:10 PM
because I like Keanu Reeves acting...

Wow. Of all the things I could have imagined seeing today, this qoute wasn't one of 'em!!! :P

Just giving you a hard time BBP! Even though many people (ok. . . all!) think Keanu's acting may lean a bit towards single dimensionality, I still like him as well. . . :wink:

Kristophe
2005-Feb-02, 04:21 PM
Even though many people (ok. . . all!) think Keanu's acting may lean a bit towards single dimensionality, I still like him as well. . . :wink:

Woah!

Moose
2005-Feb-02, 04:40 PM
Ya beat me to it, Ut. :lol:

Krevel
2005-Feb-02, 04:49 PM
I thought that Keanu was really good in Johnny Mnemonic. Of course, in that movie he was playing a guy with a computer chip in his head.... 8-[

Amadeus
2005-Feb-02, 05:05 PM
Check out the movie here (www.IMDB.com).
This place has never steered me wrong.

Good horror is hard to do. It's all to easy to fall back of SFX and gore to try and make up for a rubbish script.

If you want real spine tingles have a look at some Japanese horror.

You mght as well. Thats where holywood is gettting all its ideas at the moment.

Check out...
Ring 1
Dark water
The Grudge

You have to remember that Japanese horror are not as fast paced as western horrors. They tend to let you fall into a false scence of security and then when you least expect it freak you right out.
You have to watch them in the dark as well. :o

Amadeus
2005-Feb-02, 05:07 PM
I thought that Keanu was really good in Johnny Mnemonic. Of course, in that movie he was playing a guy with a computer chip in his head.... 8-[

Read the short story instead. 10 times shorter and 10 times better.

Disinfo Agent
2005-Feb-02, 05:17 PM
Why not both? I thought the movie was O.K. :)

Amadeus
2005-Feb-02, 05:29 PM
Nah it tried to stretch 30mins of story in 120mins. never works.
Unless Gibson rewrote the entire thing to tell the back strory and what happens after the short story.

Big Gibson fan here btw

banquo's_bumble_puppy
2005-Feb-02, 05:44 PM
why hasn't any of Gibson's really good stuff been made into a movie- specifically Neuromancer?

Disinfo Agent
2005-Feb-02, 05:52 PM
They'd have to pay him. It was much easier to make The Matrix from scratch. :wink:

P.S. William Gibson -- Movies/Films (http://www.antonraubenweiss.com/gibson/gibson0.html).

SKY
2005-Feb-02, 06:47 PM
I have some advice. Before watching the horror movie of your choice, rent and watch (in full) "Jason X", and then just the trailer for "Seed of Chucky" (which you can view on the internet). You will grow a great appreciation for the movie you are about to view. :D



If you want real spine tingles have a look at some Japanese horror.

As a horror movie fan, I have been aching to see the Japanese film "Batoru Rowaiaru" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266308/) (or "Battle Royale" in english). I've heard it is a good horror movie, but they don't distribute it here in the states. At first I heard it was banned, but reading the trivia for the movie it says that the production company just refuses to release it here.

Amadeus
2005-Feb-02, 07:04 PM
We got Battle Royale here a while ago. It's a good film for its genre but it's not horror.

It's a bit like "lord of the flies" with Uzis.

Because the main theme is a bunch of highscool kids killing each other i'am not surprised that it was not released in the states. It's one of those films that would get blamed for a school shooting.

Buy it on import m8.

Amazon UK site (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005UDYA/qid=1107371020/ref=pd_ka_0/202-4393206-5559817)

SKY
2005-Feb-02, 07:23 PM
Because the main theme is a bunch of highscool kids killing each other i'am not surprised that it was not released in the states. It's one of those films that would get blamed for a school shooting.

Except, from the trivia it states that US distributers are trying to get the Japanese production company to release it here, it is the Japanese production company that refuses to sign with a US distributer. Not sure why, but your reason could be partially why (or the main reason).

Thanks for the link. I'll look into ordering it, as long as I have a regional setting on my DVD. :)

Doodler
2005-Feb-02, 07:50 PM
Heh, if you want something horrifying from Japan, you need look no further than Yu-Gi-Oh or Pokemon. Its almost enough to make you wanna warm up the Enola Gay again. :evil:

Paul Beardsley
2005-Feb-02, 08:45 PM
Nah it tried to stretch 30mins of story in 120mins. never works.
Unless Gibson rewrote the entire thing to tell the back strory and what happens after the short story.

But we know that from some dialogue in Neuromancer.

sidmel
2005-Feb-02, 08:55 PM
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Favorite horror flick of all times: The Thing

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**Edited for sloppy typing

Nicolas
2005-Feb-02, 09:04 PM
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Favorite horro flick of all times: The Thing

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"the thing": doesn't sound like it was a good movie, if you can't even remember the title! :D

Krevel
2005-Feb-02, 11:02 PM
I thought that Keanu was really good in Johnny Mnemonic. Of course, in that movie he was playing a guy with a computer chip in his head.... 8-[

Read the short story instead. 10 times shorter and 10 times better.

Since we already derailed this thread...
I had read the short story previous to seeing the movie. I actually think they're both good. And Gibson did write the screenplay, too.

SKY
2005-Feb-02, 11:38 PM
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Favorite horro flick of all times: The Thing

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"the thing": doesn't sound like it was a good movie, if you can't even remember the title! :D

Speaking of lackluster titles, anyone ever heard of "The Stuff" (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0090094/). From what I remember, it was a stinker.

Nicolas
2005-Feb-02, 11:47 PM
Well, you've got

"it"
"A"
"The Monuments of Mars: A City on the Edge of Forever"

3 pretty lame titles as well if you ask me! :) The first two make it up with the contents however :D :D

weatherc
2005-Feb-03, 12:42 AM
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Favorite horro flick of all times: The Thing

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"the thing": doesn't sound like it was a good movie, if you can't even remember the title! :D

Speaking of lackluster titles, anyone ever heard of "The Stuff" (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0090094/). From what I remember, it was a stinker.

I remember The Stuff! I thought I was the only person alive who had seen it. Actually, I liked that movie, but only because it was so bad, it was good. It was nice and campy, which I like. Wasn't the one prosecutor guy from Law and Order in that?

SKY
2005-Feb-03, 01:19 AM
I remember The Stuff! I thought I was the only person alive who had seen it. Actually, I liked that movie, but only because it was so bad, it was good. It was nice and campy, which I like. Wasn't the one prosecutor guy from Law and Order in that?

Not sure, I've never seen Law and Order. But, if your talking about the guy that played "Paulie" in "Goodfellas", yes he is (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000649/).

weatherc
2005-Feb-03, 01:30 AM
I remember The Stuff! I thought I was the only person alive who had seen it. Actually, I liked that movie, but only because it was so bad, it was good. It was nice and campy, which I like. Wasn't the one prosecutor guy from Law and Order in that?

Not sure, I've never seen Law and Order. But, if your talking about the guy that played "Paulie" in "Goodfellas", yes he is (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000649/).

Actually, I was thinking of Michael Moriarty. (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0605363/) He was also in the movie Q, (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084556/) which was another campy horror flick about a quetzalcoatl that takes up residence in the Chrysler building in New York City and eats sunbathers from the rooftops.

Edited to add: IMDB: Best. Website. Ever. Well, except maybe this one...

SKY
2005-Feb-03, 02:01 AM
I remember The Stuff! I thought I was the only person alive who had seen it. Actually, I liked that movie, but only because it was so bad, it was good. It was nice and campy, which I like. Wasn't the one prosecutor guy from Law and Order in that?

Not sure, I've never seen Law and Order. But, if your talking about the guy that played "Paulie" in "Goodfellas", yes he is (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000649/).

Actually, I was thinking of Michael Moriarty. (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0605363/) He was also in the movie Q, (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084556/) which was another campy horror flick about a quetzalcoatl that takes up residence in the Chrysler building in New York City and eats sunbathers from the rooftops.

Edited to add: IMDB: Best. Website. Ever. Well, except maybe this one...

Interesting, both "The Stuff" and "Q" are written and directed by Larry Cohen. I see a pattern for campiness. :-k :D

Kebsis
2005-Feb-03, 02:30 AM
Late 70s to the mid 80's was the golden age of horror movies. Grimey film and sets, and nobody actors and actresses (when the film stars a hot megastar actress, or big chisle-jawed actor, you know from the beginning that they aren't going to get cut up) are what made them. Dark lighting that only let you see enough to tell that something hurt helped as well. Also, nowadays most horror films have a lead character, usually a 'sassy' female, getting all militant and going after the bad guy about 2/3s of the way into the movie. That takes the fun out of it...the five foot two blonde is supposed to be running from the guy in the mask, not taking him on with a machine gun. Everyone is supposed to be running from him...that was the point of putting him in a mask in the first place.

One Day More
2005-Feb-03, 07:20 AM
I'm not really much of a horror fan, but I've seen a couple: and I've been fortunate enough to see at least one really good one and one really atrocious one. Well, I did see only a couple anyway! The horror film that I think was really spooky, yet good was The Gift but I didn't really like Cate Blanchett all that much...she was spooky by herself. As for Scarfies? Let it be: it was *bad*.

mid
2005-Feb-03, 10:51 AM
Shaun Of The Dead.

Best "horror" movie in ages, and best British film of last year by a country mile!