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banquo's_bumble_puppy
2005-Feb-04, 06:23 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SPORT/02/04/schmeling.obit.ap/index.html

I am totally surprised as I had no idea that the man was still alive...wow

A Thousand Pardons
2005-Feb-04, 06:33 PM
almost a hundred years old, quite a story

kucharek
2005-Feb-04, 06:40 PM
Is he so famous abroad? Here he was always pretty popular and his death is big news here. He wanted to become 100 years old and missed it by a few month.
The CNN article is pretty well balanced.

TimH
2005-Feb-04, 08:47 PM
Is he so famous abroad? Here he was always pretty popular and his death is big news here. He wanted to become 100 years old and missed it by a few month.
The CNN article is pretty well balanced.

Well, I am confident that just about every boxing fan in the US knew of him.

More important than his boxing success, during Krystallnacht, Schmeling hid a pair of brothers from the German authorities.

http://www.auschwitz.dk/schmeling.htm

<edited to add link and correct spelling>

Maddad
2005-Feb-04, 10:24 PM
He was the pride and joy of the Nazis because he beat Joe Lewis, the black heavywight boxing champion. The Nazis said that this proved white racial superiority over blacks. Then in a rematch Joe Lewis knocked out Max Schmelling in the first round. The Nazis abandoned that line of reasoning.

TimH
2005-Feb-05, 12:10 AM
He was the pride and joy of the Nazis because he beat Joe Lewis, the black heavywight boxing champion. The Nazis said that this proved white racial superiority over blacks. Then in a rematch Joe Lewis knocked out Max Schmelling in the first round. The Nazis abandoned that line of reasoning.

Sure the nazis claimed him as 'proof of superority' but he wasn't a member of the party. Following their fights he became a very close friend to Joe Louis and was managed by a jewish man - basically giving the nazis "the bird".

Just because the Nazis liked him, doesn't mean he liked them.

scottmsg
2005-Feb-05, 04:52 PM
Jerry Izenberg, of the Newark Star-Ledger, has a good article on Schmeling in today's paper.

An anti-Nazi and a foe, then friend, of Joe Louis (http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/izenberg/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1107585909311120.xml)

Sammy
2005-Feb-05, 10:04 PM
Jerry Izenberg, of the Newark Star-Ledger, has a good article on Schmeling in today's paper.

An anti-Nazi and a foe, then friend, of Joe Louis (http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/izenberg/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1107585909311120.xml)

From the linked article:


Ironically, when Louis became broke, Schmeling quietly funneled money to the old champion. Their friendship was genuine, but so few Americans ever got to view Schmeling in the light in which he deserved to be seen.

And far fewer of them ever knew that when Louis, one of the most popular heavyweight champions the world had ever known, died, Schmeling paid for the funeral.

It's too bad that such a decent man had a such a bad press here while he lived.

frogesque
2005-Feb-05, 10:49 PM
A true gentleman, with as much if not more courage out of the ring as in it.

JohnD
2005-Feb-05, 11:11 PM
Is he so famous abroad? Here he was always pretty popular and his death is big news here. He wanted to become 100 years old and missed it by a few month.
The CNN article is pretty well balanced.

"Abroad" as in his own country? Germany, Europe.
Yes, he was fairly well known. Here too. In fact the Guardian ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,,1406354,00.html ) gave his obituary two thirds of a page. It described him as probably the last living person to have spoken to Franklin Roosevelt, Adolph Hitler, Al Capone, Pope Pius XII and Marlene Dietrich!

John