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dvb
2005-Feb-22, 01:12 AM
Some time ago last year, I remember mickal wondering what it would be like to experience snow. So I've taken it upon myself to snap some pictures of what the winter here has been like so far.

Here is a picture of my fathers backyard during the summer last year. Looks all fine and dandy eh?
http://my.tbaytel.net/the_trapper/summer2004.jpg

February 21, 2005 (Today)
http://my.tbaytel.net/the_trapper/winter01.jpg

And from the frontyard.
http://my.tbaytel.net/the_trapper/winter02.jpg
Note the alien antennae hanging from above in this picture.

Also note the car pictured far left that is well below the snow bank, and the minivan beside it where only the roof is visible. The snow bank to the right with the big pine tree is actually higher than I am tall, or above 6 feet. Just a couple of weeks ago, we had some mild above freezing temperatures which melted about a foot of snow.

So mickal, if you ever plan to visit Canada in the winter, you'll now know what to expect. :)

I'll give it another month or two before the snow finally decides to melt. We're talking mid April here at the earliest. If anyone else has pictures of their crazy winter, please feel free to share them. I'm sure there's someone out there who's had more snow than I this winter.

mickal555
2005-Feb-22, 09:40 AM
Wow just noticed this.... cool 8)
Thanks, I minght visit Canada soon ie. the is a half trip pending in a couple of years....
Hope we go in the winter :D

TriangleMan
2005-Feb-22, 12:17 PM
So mickal, if you ever plan to visit Canada in the winter, you'll now know what to expect. :)
Not all parts of Canada look like that in the winter though. Southwestern BC rarely gets much snow unless you're up in the mountains, snow in Vancouver is so uncommon that the city becomes near-paralyzed with just 5-8cm. Calgary also can have periods in the winter with little snow. I was there for a week in January once and the snow was only 8-10cm.

Moose
2005-Feb-22, 12:32 PM
Thunder Bay looks like Northern NB in terms of trees and depth of snow. :)

Hey! It looks like the cops finally dug out their rescue bus (tricked-out former school bus) on the far end of our (shared) parking lot. Until recently, the plows had essentially buried it in a snowbank up to the top of its windows. You could only see maybe half a foot of blue at the top. :lol:

Wally
2005-Feb-22, 01:40 PM
ARRRRGGGG!!!

We picked up 8+ inches on Sunday, so I head out last night with my trusty 20 horse lawn tractor w/ 48" snow blower attached. Notice right away the blower is acting weird, like the drive is slipping or something. Kinda able to still throw the snow, as long as I go real slow. Get to the end of the drive where the road plow has piled up the snow. Both stages of the blower seize up, and smoke starts spewing from the main PTO belt under the tractor. . .

So, now my 300' drive, slanted at around 5 degrees or so from top to bottom, only has one 48" strip cleared along the North side. Called Sears to come fix the darn blower (88 bucks just for the privilage of having him come over. . .). Got their automated appt. scheduling system, which doesn't even allow you to tell them the nature of the failure (had to go with "other" when presented with choices that all involved the tractor itself, not the attachments). Finally got on their schedule for today (anywhere between 1 and 5, meaning I have to work from home this afternoon). Have a feeling he'll take 1 look at my driveway and conclude he can't make it up, and rather than call me so I can come down and pick him up in my truck, he'll probably go back to the shop, then call, then insist I somehow clear my driveway before he'll reschedule.

Of course, maybe I'm just being cynical. . . :-?

Chip
2005-Feb-22, 05:41 PM
Nice back yard (in the summer). Where's the telescope? :wink:

The Supreme Canuck
2005-Feb-22, 11:46 PM
It's not the snow that gets to you. It's the freezing rain. That's dangerous!

Nicolas
2005-Feb-23, 12:07 AM
Overhere we've got a lot of foreign students coming from "always summer " countries. They consider Delft being close to the north pole. They hardly survive their first winter :). The snow isn't too much of a problem, but the ice cold rain, painfull hail and mainly the icy wind are. We're rather used to it (it still feals really cold, don't get me wrong), but to them it's not what they expected. Daily winter life isn't ski holiday. Most of the time there ain't even snow overhere. Just every day an hour through hard winds, rain while it is -3°C, or stormy winds at -10°C. Not an extreme winter, but not really enjoyable. Like I said, you get used to it, but the only winter I really like is
-about 30 cm of snow (not too much to keep roads open) (we hardly ever get that much here)
-NO WIND
-cold enough for some skating fun (say, -5/-7°C for a week or more).

Those are the fun parts of winter. The rest is just daily reality :).

OH and in case you didn't know: natural ice in ponds more than, say, 10 cm deep really is black! (it isn't black, it's transparent, but the darkness of the underlying water and the mud at the bottom gives it a black look vs the white icehockey ice which is white due to the white underground on which the layer of ice is laying.

natural ice looks as black as the water looks in summer (http://www.vogelsrijnwoude.nl/Werkgroepen/Landschapsbeheer/Filmrol/Foto/021213%20Kruiskade%20-%20Knotploeg%20-%20Afvoer%20hout%20via%20het%20ijs%20-%20CaHo.jpg)
another one (http://images.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://www.werktitel.nl/leden/Iris/ijs%2520copy.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.werktitel.nl/ts5/irisijs.htm&h=412&w=640&sz=65&tbnid=LrS-9hWKqgsJ:&tbnh=86&tbnw=134&start=67&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dijs%26start%3D60%26hl%3Dnl%26lr%3D%26 sa%3DN)
another one (http://www.ijsclub-nieuw-vennep.nl/ijs%209%2013-12-02.jpg)

The blackness can of course be reduced by embedded snow, air pockets, and cracks. To make it clear: I don't mean the water is dirty, all ponds and the like of some depths have a dark appearance of the water as a whole.

Normandy6644
2005-Feb-23, 12:19 AM
It's not the snow that gets to you. It's the freezing rain. That's dangerous!

I hate that!! :evil:

The Supreme Canuck
2005-Feb-23, 12:39 AM
Oh, and the cold. It hit -40 C in December with windchill. I almost died.

But then last summer it hit +40 C with humidity. Weird country.

dvb
2005-Feb-23, 12:40 AM
Wow just noticed this.... cool 8)
Thanks, I minght visit Canada soon ie. the is a half trip pending in a couple of years....
Hope we go in the winter :D

Just don't forget to bring your winter jacket. :)


Nice back yard (in the summer). Where's the telescope?

Wish I had one, and even if I did, there's far too much light pollution in this city. :-?


We picked up 8+ inches on Sunday, so I head out last night with my trusty 20 horse lawn tractor w/ 48" snow blower attached.

That's an awful lot for one snow fall. I have a friend that lives in Michigan, and the weather he gets there is very similar to what we get here. I find that he usually gets our weather the day after, as it tends to move east across the continent.

Moose
2005-Feb-23, 12:54 AM
It's not the snow that gets to you. It's the freezing rain. That's dangerous!

True, especially if you're married to "all seasons".

Personally, it's never the ice that "nearly kills me". It's pack-snow at inconvenient places. (That and tail-gating big-rigs.)

Coming back from christmas vacation, I was driving through a pretty remote area of north-western NB. Le "Portage", for those who are familiar with the area. Between St. Leonard and St. Quentin.

I was, ah, driving perhaps a bit faster than I should have been. There's a corner that's a bit tighter than it looks, and at the bottom of a (short) blind hill. Half of my close-shaves have been right there, as I usually have to jerk the wheel a bit harder than is safe to keep from understeering the corner.

Well, this time there was a small patch of drift-snow in that corner, and I clipped it just as I jerked the wheel. I knew I was in trouble when I saw the snow. Sure enough, I lost traction for a moment on the right half of the car, and a few moments later on the rear of the car as I overcompensated on the initial recovery. The studs on my winters are the only things that kept me on the road. I could feel the studs clawing at the highway as the car tried to slide out from under me.

I managed to stabilize, though in the wrong lane. Thankfully there was no oncoming traffic at that moment.

Start to finish, the car was loose for no more than two seconds.

Scary.

I really wish they would mark that turn with a sign: "Nasty corner ahead. We mean it. Slow down."

gopher65
2005-Feb-23, 01:24 AM
For the past 3 years I have lived in Saskatoon. We got virtually no snow the first two years (as in the ground was brown till it turned green). This winter we got maybe 50 cm all season.

It definately gets cold though ](*,)

mickal555
2005-Feb-23, 07:19 AM
heh I don't have a jacket

captain swoop
2005-Feb-23, 10:54 AM
Hey Nicolas, looks like you are sending your snow over to us on the Yorkshire coast.

It doesn't worry me though, I just put on my repro B-3 from Aero Leathers (http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/webapp/aeroleather/servlet/AeroViewPage?page=displayproduct&subcatid=41&prodi d=537)

and keep smiling

Nicolas
2005-Feb-23, 12:33 PM
We've had some snow today!

Winter doesn't make me lose my smile. I've got a warm room and warm clothes, and I do like the winter skies!

I've seen hail falling in front of black clouds with sunlight from an opening in the clouds on the hail this week. Just like you can sometimes see black streaks of rain falling out of clouds in the distance, only bright white. Really cool! 8).

Also sunny winter skies can be beautiful.

tjm220
2005-Feb-23, 08:39 PM
For the past 3 years I have lived in Saskatoon. We got virtually no snow the first two years (as in the ground was brown till it turned green). This winter we got maybe 50 cm all season.

It definately gets cold though ](*,)

I totally feel your pain, spent most of my life in 'toon town.

Nicolas
2005-Mar-02, 05:26 PM
L'hiver est arrivé!

We've got serious snow action now! Not really a thick layer, but everything is nicely white. This morning the snow was like miniscule icicles falling (not hail, much mmuch smaller). Really painful to go through on the bike. This evening, the snowflakes still were small, but in "normal" shape this time. While I've definately seen more snow in my life, this is the stickiest snow I've ever encountered. I drove my bike for 20 minutes and the snow still was sticking on my wheel axle, defying the centrifugal force and all pits etc!

I also noticed that silence accompanying the snow again. It is a combination of animals being less active, cars riding less and more slowly, and the sound damping of the snow.

And apparanetly my feeling of cold is quite different from some months ago. I used to feel perfectly when it was freezing and when not. This time it felt quite warm to me, but looking at what used to be water it definately is freezing some degrees (not a lot). I guess it's because I have longer hair, hence my haid doesn't feel the cold that well.

Mickal, if I had a digital camera I would have shared some pics! It's beautiful, even with only a few cm snow.

Nicolas
2005-Mar-02, 06:01 PM
The weatherforcast for tonight and tomorrow:

Schnee

I think somebody will be posting about nice snow adventures tomorrow! (I have to go through a small tunnel with my bike and almost lost it there today, the snow is very sticky in itself, but extremely slippery on the road...)

I live rather to the south, in the nord of the Netherlands they already had half a meter of snow today... (here we've got like 3 cm, but a dense pack which continues to grow, it is rather dark now but it looks like 5 cm now).

It will get upto -15°C (no wind factor) during the next days at places in the Netherlands. The current amount of snowfall is a once in a 10 year situation, the -15 will be the coldest March night since 1971.

March is rather late for snow anyway here. (not that I'm complaining!!)

Schiphol airport today (about 5 cm of snow, but the sticky kind!):
Schiphol in Schnee (http://www.knmi.nl/voorl/nieuws/images/sneeuw_schiphol_2_mrt_05.jpg)

captain swoop
2005-Mar-03, 11:19 AM
We had a lot of snow on the North Yorks Moors over the last few days. Up on the top at Blakey Ridge the Lion Inn (http://www.lionblakey.co.uk/)has had 15 foot (4.5 metres) of snow, the road looks like a Canyon now it has been buldozed clear.

There are some snow pics on the website but they haven't put any of this weeks up yet.

Nicolas
2005-Mar-03, 12:02 PM
This morning we had about 8/9 cm snow. IT hadn't snowed as muc has they predicted here.

Anyway the "always summer country" foreign students who survived the cold had the time of their life. The pack of snow and all the snow sticking on the trees, combined with a hazy blue sky gave them the postcard loook in real life for the first time. So they learned what "having fun in the snow" means. Unless it gets really really cold here tonight (as predicted...) they'll have to stay another winter to learn "having fun on the ice" and hence complete winter school :) .

What I noticed tonight was that it was extremely light. The city has quite some lights, so yyou can go out at night without needing a flashlight. But now, with everything covered in shiny white, and a white cloud layer, all the lights reflected and a beautiful hue shone above the city. I could see it shining into my room. This morning, when passing a car who turned onto some fresh snow, I heard that typical racking sound of fresh snow being compacted. I want to sample that sound once and make some music with it 8) .

It's noon now, and we've had very little extra snow today. Weather gets worse, so probably there's some snow ahead. It seems to be seriously freewing again. This morning, the sun made some snow fall from the trees, but as the sun is gone now and temperatures dropped, that process stopped.

Mickal, if you ever travel to a place where there is some snow, you'll have a lot to watch, hear and feel!

Nicolas
2005-Mar-03, 11:21 PM
WE've had some minor thaw today, and major freezing tonight. MAny parts of the country are getting through their salts stocks, and they only use it for the main roads anymore. Result: the smaller roads are ice plains. Really the only thing that keeps them from being equally slippery as an ice rink are the small bumps in the ice surface. But it still is majorly slipperly, and blinking in the streetlights. I really shouldn't have gotten outside on my bike without a helmet. It's an easy and very hard fall... I managed to stay upright however. No use in telling the "snow newbies" not to brake when they feel they're starting to skid, and CERTAINLY not to use their front brake. The correct reactions takes years of practice (read: falling) to master :) Nobody I know got hurt thankfully. The in-sewer-ants companies got more than 10 times the normal amount of calls the last 2 days; I believe they need to brace for some more tomorrow...

Nicolas
2005-Mar-04, 05:09 PM
The lowest recorded temperature in the Netherlands tonight was -20.5°C (static temperature; no windchill factor accounted for).

That was the coldest March night since measurements started in the Netherlands!

Today it started to snow again, and there is quite some wind. Now it really starts to become a cold winter. The combination snow/freezing is not ideal for smooth ice, but that is not thick enough to hold people in most places anyway. The nights are very cold, but during the day temperatures rise again to about 0°C. Today it didn't thaw however, and all fresh snow stays where it fell.

This weather really is very special to occur in March. When spring sets in, it will be quite a difference! Meanwhile, at the moments when the sun broke through, I got the "ski holiday effect" of tired eyes caused by all the bright white.

This morning I completely lost grip in a descending curve (with my bike). I did not brake, and was wearing heavy boots, so a corrective foot on the ground made me continue my way without problems. But it was a slippery ride.

Traffic starts to become a chaos here: there ain't much salt left, and the new + old snow makes the roads really slippery. This night, it was so cold that the overhead contact wires for the trains snapped. So train traffic was replaced by busses, but with these slippery roads... we had reduced lectures today because so little people made it to the faculty.

Now there is a minor blizzard here. I need to drive all the way to Belgium tonight (by car), where I'll have to take a train to my final destination. I hope I reach my destination in one piece..

Mickal, I guess you've never seen an overhead contact wire snapping due to the cold in Australia :).

WE have some problems with winter now, but overall I love this time of the year. 8) Everything can look so different overnight.

Captain Kidd
2005-Mar-04, 05:44 PM
On March First there were 3 snowflakes reported in all of Tennessee. Two appear to have been hoaxes.

Pandemonium broke out.
Schools were cancelled.
Grocery Stores were mobbed.
Tow trucks were running 24/7 to clear all the wrecks.

OK, there was more snow than that, but nothing much more than a dusting or so for the most part. The above events still happened.

I remember being in school and it would get cancelled on the mere forecast of snow. Half the time the forecast was wrong and there wasn’t even a flake. Drove my father nuts, he grew up in a Rocky Mountain town and they had school no matter what (of course there were all of 50 kids from kindergarten to 12th grade there too).

Yup the above accounts and the pictures from Switzerland (http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/icestorm.asp) (few more (http://www.skyandsummit.com/Glacegeneve/index.html)) make me determined to never set foot further north than where I am now.

Nicolas
2005-Mar-04, 05:48 PM
That Geneva freezing thing is a joke we don't pull very often :). I would love to have been tehre 8) . While things looked spectacular overhere, it really can't compete with that!

Schools will never officially be cancelled here because of snow, but lecturers adapt their schedule if really very few students made it to the faculty.

kucharek
2005-Mar-07, 08:37 AM
Though we have relatively much snow in Karlsruhe this year, I just spent the weekend in the Black Forrest, where there is much more of this white stuff. Lot's of fun, most of it devoted to spaceflight research :P

My son Lukas doing some zero-g parabolas: :o
http://img191.exs.cx/img191/1196/hk0503061213426zi.th.jpg (http://img191.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img191&image=hk0503061213426zi.jpg)

My daughter Ami testing some hibernation strategies for long term spaceflight: :wink:
http://img191.exs.cx/img191/1950/hk0503051642526iv.th.jpg (http://img191.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img191&image=hk0503051642526iv.jpg)

And we built a monument dedicated to an Apollo mission. Guess which one! #-o
http://img191.exs.cx/img191/9615/hk0503051549264yp.th.jpg (http://img191.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img191&image=hk0503051549264yp.jpg)

Harald 8-[

kucharek
2005-Mar-14, 08:07 AM
More snow:

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/EarthObservation/images_of_the_week/week_Europe_Snow_20050304_H.jpg

from

http://www.esa.int/export/esaEO/SEM980P256E_index_0.html