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The Bad Astronomer
2005-Mar-18, 07:51 AM
It appears I made a mistake. Two mistakes, in fact.

This post is long, and somewhat complicated. Bear with me.

In this thread (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=20344&), JPax2003 and SciFi Chick started to argue. As I posted in the last message, JPax made what IMO was a (mildly) condescending post, essentially making fun of people who were using math -- correct math, I might add -- to make a point. IMO, he didn't understand the math, was being stubborn, and got frustrated.

SciFi Chick then replied, and her post was, again IMO, uncalled for. There were many paths she could have taken, but chose to use sarcasm. Again, I can see the frustration that was there. It's obvious.

Now, it's possible to disagree with people and still remain civil. Perhaps JPax already stepped over that line. SFC certainly did with her reply. This was not a banning offense, I'll add. IMO at the time, her reply came out of nowhere and was uncalled for, and had I seen it when she posted it I would have warned her. But I didn't, and things got worse from there. Coming in on page 8, I felt that both of them were baiting each other, and so I took action: I locked the thread, and banned them both.

On technical merits alone, this was not the correct decision. I did not warn either of them. This was a mistake. I generally do not ban people outright like that unless it is a vagrant violation of the FAQ (posting porn, spamming, outright insults, etc.). That is in fact reason enough to reinstate both of them.

But there is more going on here. I try to judge what I consider to be violations on their own merits, and not to look at past events. But I see now this is an unreasonable course of action; I have to make the case based on what I know. Sometimes one has to look over the whole, the history. SFC is a fine poster, and has contributed to the BABB quite well. If she were to slip up, should I not take into account her history?

Yes, I should. I've done it before. I've banned people who have skirted the line many times, only to cross it once. Take JSPrinceton, for example. I took his history as a brilliant scientific poster into account, but I also had to include his very abrasive posting style. I did in fact warn him, but he continued to post the same way. I had to make a very tough decision the day I banned him. I still feel bad about that.

SciFi Chick's history shows her to be pretty patient, a virtue in this game of skepticism. She has also been bright and cheery, and is clearly much loved here (more on that in a moment). However, she has also jumped in twice to fire the first shot (the 0.9999 thread linked above, as well as this thread (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=434774)). Some might question her "starting this", because there is apparently a history between her and JPax, and he has provoked her before. But in both these cases she came in and posted. She didn't have to. And IMO in the second thread (Lurker's Persian thread), I don't see where what JPax did was so awful (if someone can explain to me something I am missing, I welcome new information). What he posted was odd, and perhaps inappropriate given the nature of the thread, but not worth the rolleyes. If SFC thought it was inappropriate, she should have just said so.

However, given that I should have warned her and not banned her, and given her history here-- something in the future I will be more diligent about considering-- I have unbanned her. I should not have done it in the first place, and for that I apologize. I'm also sorry for any stress I caused as well.

However, I want to make clear that while my banning you, SciFi Chick, was a mistake, the correct action I should have taken was a warning. So: consider yourself warned. Don't post while you're that frustrated. It leads to no good.

Now, to JPax2003. I have gone over his threads as well. I will be honest, as I have to be: I can see why people have been irritated. Many of his posts sound condescending, and many sound immature. The repeated line "Thank you for your consideration" can only be regarded as baiting, IMO. I did not find any posts that were strictly violations of the FAQ, but many skirted it pretty hard. Of course, I could not read all 1667 posts, so there may be more.

I cannot include SFC's history without also including yours, JPax2003. Your behavior in that thread was poor, to say the least. There have been other threads as well with questionable posting tactics at best. There have been other occasions where you should have been warned. However, I think it would be unfair of me to unban SFC without unbanning you, given that it was my mistake for not warning you both.

I apologize to you as well for banning you, but this apology comes with a much sterner warning: consider very carefully your posting style. It does in fact rankle people, whether you think it does or not. If I see you baiting a poster again like you did, the next time you won't be reinstated. You need to rethink your methods, or else you will again find yourself at the very least on the receiving end of a lot of irritation.

..............

Now, on to me. I am unhappy about what's happened, of course. I don't like making mistakes, and admitting them is difficult. But I have to, because I have sworn to myself that I will be honest when I do. So I admit my mistake again. I am culpable as well for not having watched things more closely, and for taking the incorrect action. I apologize to the community here for the turbulence I caused.

I understand how upset people are. There have been posts on this board in the past few hours that were supportive of SFC, supportive (less enthusiastically, to be sure) of me, and some that were outright hostile toward me. I will add that my reconsidering this situation was due to the support of SFC from the community, and the plaintive posts asking me to rethink this. The hostile posts did not help, and in fact were an impediment to this. I am human, after all. Being called a coward (among other things) is not a great way to engender a proper frame of mind for rational thinking.

Let me be clear: I do understand those emotions. I deal every day with people who feed off of human misery. Day after day, week after week. It's grinding, and I sometimes have to struggle mightily to maintain my composure. The avatar of Buzz Aldrin wearing boxing gloves is in part a reminder to me to maintain that composure. I think I have done a decent job of not letting my temper run away, and while my own emotions have caused me to make some mistakes here, the signal-to-noise of this board is evidence that it is working at least in part.

If I can do it, others can to. That's why I wrote board FAQ the way I did.

However, this incident -- the fact that I stepped in too late to help, and that it was difficult to assess the history of the situation-- is evidence that this board is getting too big for me to handle alone. I am too busy at work and at home, and things will get busier soon, I'm sure. I had hoped that having people PM me when they see a problem brewing would take care of things, and it's been very helpful, but it's clearly not enough. This was the second mistake I referred to in the opening sentence of this post.

This situation is a wake-up call (for all of us), but I am not sure how to fix this problem. I still dislike the idea of moderators, for many reasons, but they may be necessary. I will consider it. I'll consider as many options as I can, but that is for another thread.

Finally, an important note: Some people have taken what I did as a sign that they cannot stand up to someone they think is wrong. This is incorrect. I have never tried to discourage that. This board, this entire website, is devoted to that very action!

What I demand is that it be done reasonably and politely. If someone is wrong, call them on it. If they continue to be wrong, continue to call them on it. Be persistent, be firm, but be polite. If they refuse to listen or act in a way that is contrary to a rational discourse, PM me. Given what I have learned here today, I will do what I can to deal with the situation reasonably and fairly.

Normandy6644
2005-Mar-18, 07:58 AM
=D> Thank you sir. One of the things I admire most about you is your willingness to admit mistakes and take action to correct them. I highly commend you for that.

mickal555
2005-Mar-18, 07:58 AM
Let me be the first[edit: second] to say YEY!
=D>

Welcome back SciFi Chick =D>

And great post BA. =D>

Morrolan
2005-Mar-18, 07:59 AM
again i find myself in full agreement with Normandy6644.

thank you, BA.

MrObvious
2005-Mar-18, 07:59 AM
=D> :D

space cadet
2005-Mar-18, 08:05 AM
yay! Thanks BA.

Lycus
2005-Mar-18, 08:09 AM
This is very cool, BA. Good decision.

Maksutov
2005-Mar-18, 08:17 AM
What Normandy6644 said.

Welcome back, SciFi!

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aktion/action-smiley-046.gif

dvb
2005-Mar-18, 08:19 AM
I admire your ability to maintain your composure as you have on this board Phil. Despite everyones capability of making mistakes, it's your discipline that makes this board as good as it is.

We can't learn if we don't admit to our mistakes. The mark of a true scientist. =D>

captain swoop
2005-Mar-18, 08:30 AM
What a remarkable man you are

jt-3d
2005-Mar-18, 08:46 AM
Welcome back, ScFi, Jpax, the voices in my head...

Well, now that that's over, let's everybody get back to drinkin'.

viva 500

SKY
2005-Mar-18, 08:54 AM
=D>

I would just like to add, I know there was some heated posts concerning the banning of SciFi Chick, but I think a majority of the people here know that it is hard for you to juggle between personal life and the BABB, and I think a lot of the posters who voiced their opinions did so only to let you know that there was more to the situation than what you saw, and were not out to lynch you because of a mistake made. It may be hard to accept, but we probably read more of the board than you get a chance to and a lot of people here are very familiar with others personalities. I'm sorry that some took you banning her personal, but I'm glad that posters were able to convince you to look deeper into the matter, which you may not normally get a chance to do because of your hectic schedule.

Fram
2005-Mar-18, 08:58 AM
You're doing a great job, BA, and I agree that we (the posters) should have stepped in earlier between JPAX and SFC. But it's sometimes hard to moderate in such a way without coming across as mister-thinks-he-knows-better...

archman
2005-Mar-18, 08:59 AM
The truly remarkable thing is how BA maintains such a well-ordered and large board, as sole moderator, yet still makes the time and effort to make lengthy explanative posts. Simply amazing. Now if only this were a biology board, my world would be perfect...

2005-Mar-18, 09:48 AM
Thank you BA. And, welcome back SFC... =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Glom
2005-Mar-18, 10:38 AM
Phew! SFC is back. To lose SFC would be tough after I recently found out that russ_watters was banned a while back.

If you blame this on swamp gas, you've got something new to put in the Blog. :D

Out of curiosity, is there anyone else who you feel is skirting the line a bit? 8-[

Moose
2005-Mar-18, 11:29 AM
(Woah.)

Thank you, BA, for reinstating SciFi Chick.

Jobe
2005-Mar-18, 11:45 AM
damn no government/NASA coverup to post about in against the mainstream.

But seriously, I applaud your decision and even more- the fact you put time into it so you could get a fair picture. Hooray !

p.s. I've skirted the lines a few times which is why I hardly post anymore and just read instead :p

Disinfo Agent
2005-Mar-18, 12:00 PM
Thank you for reconsidering your decision, BA. =D>
Welcome back, SciFi Chick. :D

Glom
2005-Mar-18, 12:17 PM
What I think is the most sad about this is how it looks like we've taken a step back in our behaviour. One time when BA went away for a while, someone started a thread about homosexuality that would normally be considered out of bounds for this board. The thread was a brilliant intellectual discussion by calm and reasoned posters and when BA got here, rather than locking it, he recognised that our conduct had been excellent in the face of a potentially inflammatory topic and said he was considering relaxing the rules on some of the taboo topics because we were so mature. It looks like that's now changed and BA needs to think of ways to strengthen his regulation of the boad.

What can we learn from this?

It's fine to discuss politics, but discussions about mathematics should be avoided.

gzhpcu
2005-Mar-18, 12:34 PM
Thanks BA. Your reply was intelligent and you have gained a lot of stature in the eyes of those who do not know you so well. To admit a mistake and apologize is the sign of great character. Thank you also for reinstating SciFi Chick, who is a great value to all the boards she participates in. :D

Captain Kidd
2005-Mar-18, 12:45 PM
Out of curiosity, is there anyone else who you feel is skirting the line a bit? 8-[
Bit of a guilty conscious there? :)

Well, the support thread hadn't started yet when I went to bed (wife threatened to sleep on the couch and followed that by immediately throwing back the covers) so I didn't get a chance to really read anything but Musashi's Reader's Digest version on the banned posters thread.

Itís nice to wake up to a happy ending.

Congratulation all around to both the (un)banned and (un)banner. It is hard to admit one's mistakes and to then correct any actions because of the mistake, itís good to see that people can still do both.

Disinfo Agent
2005-Mar-18, 12:54 PM
Itís nice to wake up to a happy ending.
Here, here.

I see that the BA is worried that the forum may be getting larger and more difficult to patrol. I honestly didn't notice a general change. Sometimes two people just get trapped in a downward spiral of mutual hostility. I think it can happen to anyone. It's happened to me a couple of times. :oops:

Perhaps the solution is a bit more self-policing. We need to keep reminding ourselves to step back and cool down every once in a while. There's a whole wide world outside these forums--no, really! :wink:

Spacewriter
2005-Mar-18, 01:52 PM
Props to you BA for airing this publicly and taking the action you did. AS a former mod on another site, I know exactly how tough it is to walk the line between reason and instant action when somebody transgresses on a board. I know I've had my slipups here, but I also know that on many occasions -- most notably the homosexuality discussion mentioned above and a couple of others, most, if not all members partaking have taken good care to avoid the kind of histrionics I've seen elsewhere when the same topics come up. For that I've been very proud of us and perhaps all of us could step up more often to defuse situations before they get out of hand.

On other occasions we've stepped away from discussions that threatened to get heated. Would that all members could learn that kind of restraint, which is really a kind of parlor-room etiquette that we'd show each other in real life (face to face).

You face some tough decisions, and perhaps your bringing up these issues might help those who have teetered on the line between civility and rudeness to realize their behavior is tipping the balance on this board to a point where some unsavory decisions might need to be made. Certainly leaving up transgressing posts for others to see (after you've locked threads) is educational.

I like this place and I hope we can continue to chatter here; it's a bright, witty, and urbane place to be.

Tranquility
2005-Mar-18, 01:55 PM
Wow I just went away for two days and came back to this.

Well I'm really glad I missed the entire ordeal. SciFi Chick is a really cool person. I've disagreed with her often (even in the short time span that I managed to spend on FWIS) but never thought less of her at any point because these disagreements don't spiral downwards into immaturity. I'm glad this was sorted out because I'd hate to see her or anyone else here leave for an avoidable incident that tells nothing about anyone's reality.

Argos
2005-Mar-18, 02:02 PM
Admitting mistakes is a virtue of intellectual giants. Congrats, Dr. Phil.

tofu
2005-Mar-18, 02:13 PM
wait, so does this mean that 0.999... *is* the same as 1???

I kid, I kid. Hey, why not make ToSeek a moderator? He knows his stuff and is online all the time.

ToSeek
2005-Mar-18, 02:34 PM
Tough situation, good decision in the end. Your efforts in maintaining this board (and its civil tone) are appreciated, as always.

Glom
2005-Mar-18, 02:54 PM
Your efforts in maintaining this board (and its civil tone) are appreciated, as always.

You're always sucking up, you dingbat! :P :wink: :^o

sts60
2005-Mar-18, 03:10 PM
Wow! Go away for a couple of days, all heck breaks loose, then it's put back in the heck-bottle.

Welcome back to Jpax2003 and SciFiChick. And I hope Archer17 unexiles himself.

Most of all, thanks, Dr. P., for a reasoned, and reasonable, action. I'm sure it took some pondering. But, hey, it's not like you have some paid job* somewhere that diverts you from your full-time monitoring of BABB... :wink:


*Other than NASA-CIA debunker-stooge-apologist-MIB, of course. But there are so many of us that no one has to work too hard.

gethen
2005-Mar-18, 03:15 PM
Thanks, BA for having a cool head and caring about the feelings of those who hang out here.

jamestox
2005-Mar-18, 03:16 PM
Done most wisely and patiently, Dr. Phil. To have admitted a mistake outwardly and subsequently corrected it is the height of self-honesty. (lifts glass in the general direction of KaleeFORia) To the BA, our gracious host and moderator!

J.

A Thousand Pardons
2005-Mar-18, 03:58 PM
Thank you for reconsidering your decision, BA. =D>
Welcome back, SciFi Chick. :D
wb SciFi Chick and JPax2003

ToSeek
2005-Mar-18, 04:03 PM
Your efforts in maintaining this board (and its civil tone) are appreciated, as always.

You're always sucking up, you dingbat! :P :wink: :^o

I'm campaigning for moderator. :P

worzel
2005-Mar-18, 04:11 PM
At the risk of sounding redundant I would like to say that I am very impressed with Phil's actions. The signal to noise ratio on this forum is exceptionally high and due mainly to Phil's strict rules. Being able to reverse a decision in the light of further reflection without compromising those rules will only help to improve the spirit of this forum.

The Supreme Canuck
2005-Mar-18, 04:12 PM
I'm glad this is resolved. Conflicting emotions do no one any good. Welcome back, guys.

WaxRubiks
2005-Mar-18, 04:21 PM
It is most fortunate that the designers of this software for saw just such an eventuality, and incorporated an "UN BAN" button for the BA to click on........in the '80s you may not have been so fortunate.....



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Musashi
2005-Mar-18, 04:30 PM
Your efforts in maintaining this board (and its civil tone) are appreciated, as always.

You're always sucking up, you dingbat! :P :wink: :^o

I'm campaigning for moderator. :P

Not that my opinion matters much, but I have thought about moderators for the BABB and you, ToSeek, I considered perfect for the job.

The Supreme Canuck
2005-Mar-18, 04:33 PM
I have to agree. ToSeek would make an excellent mod.

Normandy6644
2005-Mar-18, 04:36 PM
I'll second (or third) that. Though if the BA decides to do this, I would think it would be a good idea to have a number of them, maybe split amongst the different fora, that way the moderator could focus all of his/her attention into one or two, rather than all of them like the BA has had to do.

The Supreme Canuck
2005-Mar-18, 04:37 PM
That could also limit the mods' powers sufficiently that they would be acceptable here...

Normandy6644
2005-Mar-18, 04:38 PM
That could also limit the mods' powers sufficiently that they would be acceptable here...

I was thinking that too.

ChesleyFan
2005-Mar-18, 04:50 PM
Whew.

Well, that was a scary couple of hours. 8)

Normandy6644
2005-Mar-18, 04:53 PM
Whew.

Well, that was a scary couple of hours. 8)

And it kept me up until 3AM! :D

jfribrg
2005-Mar-18, 05:00 PM
I've said it before. I don't know where the BA finds the time or the energy to deal with these "administrative" tasks, but I'm glad he does. I know more about science than I would have without the BABB. I've also given the web site address to quite a few folks who saw the Fox moon landing program and aren't sure of the truth. I would like to think that some of them are now better informed than they otherwise would have been.

teddyv
2005-Mar-18, 05:06 PM
Whew.

Well, that was a scary couple of hours. 8)

And it kept me up until 3AM! :D

I didn't stay up late but I was really curious how it might pan out by the morning. As a here, I am very happy with response and approach taken by the BA in this situation. =D>

Herodotus
2005-Mar-18, 05:30 PM
Thank You BA for the unbanning =D>
and welcome back to the unbanned.
Dear BA we like you even more now! =D> :D

Gullible Jones
2005-Mar-18, 06:01 PM
Thanks for admitting your mistakes, and giving the banned posters a second chance... Not many people can do that so easily.

SciFi Chick
2005-Mar-18, 06:04 PM
I would like to add my heartfelt thanks to the BA for unbanning me. I would also like to thank all the people that made their voices heard.

Finally, I do not envy the BA his job on this board. One of the things I admire most about him is his ability to admit when he is wrong, rare though that is. :D

Lurker
2005-Mar-18, 06:47 PM
Finally, I do not envy the BA his job on this board. One of the things I admire most about him is his ability to admit when he is wrong, rare though that is. :D

I would like to second this comment. I did not comment during this situation because I don't think anyone should second guess the person who has to make such difficult calls. There are some threads on this board that make me proud to be a part of this unique community here. There are also threads on this board that remind me that we can be far less unique than we are at our best.

I was offered a position as moderator on another board, but turned it down because I did not think I could provide the strong, fair style that has been taken for granted in this forum. Anyone who has called Dr. Plait a coward should stand up and apologize to him now. This man has made extremely well considered decisions in a forum which is filled with more than its share of intelligence and ego. His rules are simple -- argue with reason and back up your arguments with evidence -- all arguments and discussions shall be kept civill and respectful in tone -- foul language shall not be permittedIs it really the position of the posters on this board that we cannot live up to these rules?? Is it really the position of the posters on this board that we should not be expected to live up to these rules? If we answer yes to these questions, then who are the cowards??

The BA has and continues to do an outstanding job in a position that I for one am willing to admit that I could not do. Because of him there are a number of forums that allow discussion, learning, and community in the difficult times. I tip my hat to you BA and thank you for providing something very special here...

And to those who have been less supportive of him I say be strong enough to apologize. I have lost my temper and been sarcastic here at times. I apologize to you for those lapses Dr. Plait.

Glom
2005-Mar-18, 08:49 PM
Glad to see you're not bitter, SFC.

Tranquility
2005-Mar-18, 08:51 PM
Glad to see you're not bitter, SFC.

Yeah likewise. Glad you're not upset about the whole ordeal. I know I would have pouted for a while :D

mike alexander
2005-Mar-18, 09:10 PM
I think ToSeek, graphite and heavy water would all be good moderators.

The Supreme Canuck
2005-Mar-18, 09:21 PM
Well said! =D>

Andromeda321
2005-Mar-18, 09:41 PM
Huzzah! Three cheers for the BA! =D> =D> =D>
Glad this all got fixed up, but I must admit I felt like I knew it would be. After hanging out here you realize that BABBers, particularly the BA, are great at making the right decisions. Must be why I hang out here so much. :)

Vega115
2005-Mar-18, 09:45 PM
Like....whoah. Go away for a day or two, and the gate of h-e-double hockey sticks are unleashed!

Glad to see that it has all be cleared up, Welcome Back SFC and JPax.

BA, you did the right thing, and I comend you.

SciFi Chick
2005-Mar-18, 10:31 PM
Glad to see you're not bitter, SFC.

Yeah likewise. Glad you're not upset about the whole ordeal. I know I would have pouted for a while :D

I did all that last night. :D I didn't pout though. I cried... I love this place.

Wally
2005-Mar-19, 12:02 AM
I too have kept my mouth shut thru this whole ordeal, out of respect for the most difficult job Dr. P has as mayor of our lovely community. . .

That said, glad your back SciFi!!! I always enjoy your candid, heartfelt responses. You are always percise and to the point, and I commend you for that.
=D> =D> =D>

I would most definitely had missed you had not BA reconsidered.

(ps. I really don't know jpax, but welcome back as well)

MrObvious
2005-Mar-19, 12:30 AM
Funny how everyone see's things differently. I opened my mouth out of respect for The BA and for SciFi Chick....

Had I opened it long before maybe things wouldn't have panned out the way they did either. It's something I regret now not doing earlier. :(

Doe, John
2005-Mar-19, 12:46 AM
welcome back from the land of banishment. let's all remember to watch each others backs. BA's just one guy, we need to be able to police ourselves to keep things civil.

Spacewriter
2005-Mar-19, 01:05 AM
SFC,

Glad to see you're back... I missed most of the fireworks last night because I was doing something...don't remember what, but I wasn't online... so it was a bit of a surprise to come on and watch as events unfolded. In particular it was tough to read BA's mssg about the banning and subsequent unbanning -- I know how he felt as he worked through that decision tree. Anyway, it's good to have you back again and perhaps all this will serve some higher purpose for the board.

ChesleyFan
2005-Mar-19, 01:13 AM
SFC,

Glad to see you're back... I missed most of the fireworks last night because I was doing something...don't remember what, but I wasn't online...

You don't remember what you did on St. Paddy's Day?

Join the club. 8)

Lurker
2005-Mar-19, 01:44 AM
SFC,

Glad to see you're back... I missed most of the fireworks last night because I was doing something...don't remember what, but I wasn't online...
You don't remember what you did on St. Paddy's Day?

Join the club. 8)
Sure an' ye must know there's no shame not knowin' what ye was doin' on St. Paddy's Day?



I wanted to use additional Irish slang, but I have been warned that the literal translations of some of the the terms I wanted to use are um... well... shall we say "a bit more base" than I was led to believe. :o

Jpax2003
2005-Mar-19, 06:35 AM
I don't know what to say. I'm afraid that anything I say might draw responses that could get people into trouble.

Thank you everyone who welcomed me back.

Maksutov
2005-Mar-19, 07:16 AM
Great to see you back, SciFi Chick!

I too was really worried that this ordeal might have soured you on posting here. But you've treated the situation with the grace and fairness that you show in your posts. The board now remains improved by your presence.

Welcome back!

Wally
2005-Mar-19, 12:52 PM
Funny how everyone see's things differently. I opened my mouth out of respect for The BA and for SciFi Chick....



I certainly didn't mean to imply that those who fought so gallantly for the unbanning were being disrepectful in my eyes. As I was reading all the excellent posts (and some a bit less than excellent, archer, although your pain was felt by most of us here!), I just couldn't help but feel for Dr. P and what must have been a painful decision for him to make. . .

No disrepect intended at all for those made their voices heard. In fact, my gratitude! =D>

Tranquility
2005-Mar-19, 03:35 PM
Glad to see you're not bitter, SFC.

Yeah likewise. Glad you're not upset about the whole ordeal. I know I would have pouted for a while :D

I did all that last night. :D I didn't pout though. I cried... I love this place.

Hey, I speak for a lot of us here when I say we love you too and are glad you won't be taking any sort of mandatory leave of absence. We're all happy you're back here with us :wink:

SciFi Chick
2005-Mar-19, 04:51 PM
Thanks Tranquility.

{{{hug}}}

R.A.F.
2005-Mar-19, 04:59 PM
I know I haven't mentioned it, so I will now, it's good to have you here SciFi Chick!

BTW...would this be a bad time to start a "Harry Potter" thread??

R.A.F. runs really fast and hides. :)

SciFi Chick
2005-Mar-19, 05:02 PM
I know I haven't mentioned it, so I will now, it's good to have you here SciFi Chick!

BTW...would this be a bad time to start a "Harry Potter" thread??

R.A.F. runs really fast and hides. :)

:lol: Actually, there's a new one coming out in July, and I will be in full force "Don't mess with Harry." mode. :wink:

R.A.F.
2005-Mar-19, 05:09 PM
...I will be in full force "Don't mess with Harry." mode. :wink:

I wouldn't expect you to be any other way. :)

I'm actually looking forward to the new "Harry" movie...I'm not looking forward to the new Star Wars movie...but that's a different story.

Sigma_Orionis
2005-Mar-19, 05:55 PM
To: Dr. Phillip Plait aka The Bad Astronomer.
Re: Unbanning of SciFi Chick/JPAX2003

Dear Sir: You are a Gentleman and a Scholar, I Salute you!

PS: Welcome Back SciFi Chick and Jpax2003

SciFi Chick
2005-Mar-19, 05:56 PM
Thanks Sigma!

Sigma_Orionis
2005-Mar-19, 05:56 PM
:D

Candy
2005-Mar-19, 07:34 PM
I don't know what to say. I'm afraid that anything I say might draw responses that could get people into trouble.

Thank you everyone who welcomed me back.
Welcome back Jpax and SFC! I missed the whole ordeal due to work.

Question: How does one know they are banned? Do you get a special email or something? 8-[

I hope this hasn't already been asked, because I'm behind in about two days of BABB reading.

SciFi Chick
2005-Mar-19, 08:17 PM
Welcome back Jpax and SFC! I missed the whole ordeal due to work.

Question: How does one know they are banned? Do you get a special email or something? 8-[

I hope this hasn't already been asked, because I'm behind in about two days of BABB reading.

It's horrible. You come and it looks like you aren't logged in. Then you try to log in, and it says your ID or password is inactive. Then, after a little while, a message pops up telling you you've been banned.

mopc
2005-Mar-19, 11:06 PM
Oh, poor Sci! Been reading abou the conroversy... glad every thing was solved...

On a note: this banning people over a discussion on decimal fractions gotta be the nerdiest controversy in human history!!! :lol:

Glom
2005-Mar-20, 12:21 AM
I noticed that. That why I said that it's okay for us to discuss politics on this board and remain civil as some recent threads have demonstrated, but discussion of maths? Forget it!

SciFi Chick
2005-Mar-20, 01:10 AM
I noticed that. That why I said that it's okay for us to discuss politics on this board and remain civil as some recent threads have demonstrated, but discussion of maths? Forget it!

And a good laugh I got out of that as well. :lol: