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Tuckerfan
2005-Apr-19, 04:31 PM
I bet it'll turn out like New Coke. They'll try to replace him with Pope II, but in the end, be forced (or some say that it was their plan all along) to bring back Pope Classic.

(No details on who it is as of yet.)

Chuck
2005-Apr-19, 04:34 PM
I hope it's not me. The commute would be awful.

Nicolas
2005-Apr-19, 04:36 PM
Hey I just received a mail!

-oh this definately ain't from the Vatican


:D :D

The radio actually plays some music between continuously repeating that they do not know who the new pope will be, and that it will be 45 minutes before they know :roll: (not that I don't want to know who it is, but why keep repeatting how long you will have to wait before you know??)

Tuckerfan
2005-Apr-19, 04:44 PM
And the new Pope is Cardinal Ratzinger!

Nicolas
2005-Apr-19, 04:44 PM
Ratzinger (I hit the post limiter 25 times, but you win! :D )

Grey
2005-Apr-19, 04:50 PM
I'm impressed at how quick that was.

SeanF
2005-Apr-19, 04:51 PM
Pope Benedict XVI :)

fossilnut2
2005-Apr-19, 04:53 PM
He was a Hitler Youth so I thought he might have picked the name Adolph the first.

...or modernized the Papacy and been Pope Yahoo the first.

collegeguy
2005-Apr-19, 05:04 PM
Pope Benedict XVI :)

Expect GLP and other woo-woo sites to start talking about this soon. The saint Malachy prophecies said that the next pope would be Benedict XVI. it has ocurred.

The Supreme Canuck
2005-Apr-19, 05:05 PM
He was a Hitler Youth so I thought he might have picked the name Adolph the first.

...or modernized the Papacy and been Pope Yahoo the first.

His class was enrolled in the Hitler youth. When he found out, he quit.

collegeguy
2005-Apr-19, 05:09 PM
I know this is out of topic, but can anyone who has read Nostradamus answer me a question? It could have been read by curiosity. According to what I have been told, he said the last pope would be black, is that true?

Nicolas
2005-Apr-19, 05:25 PM
I'm impressed at how quick that was.

us or them? :D

WHarris
2005-Apr-19, 05:29 PM
I'm impressed at how quick that was.

Actually, it's fairly typical. Of the last six conclaves (including this one), only one has lasted longer than two days. (John XXIII)

JohnW
2005-Apr-19, 05:35 PM
Pope Benedict XVI :)
Bah. After two John Pauls, I was hoping for George Ringo.

Sticks
2005-Apr-19, 05:38 PM
I had a very strange experience over this one recounted here (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21118)

At the age of 78, is anyone running a book yet on when he wil "pop his cloggs" and we have to do this all over again.

Lurker
2005-Apr-19, 05:52 PM
Not to get too political here (also, as a pagan, I am somewhat of a bystander in all this) it appears that this guy is pretty conservative.

V-GER
2005-Apr-19, 05:59 PM
Oh crap, what the heck was the guy thinking?Out of all the names he just had to name himself Benedict. I bet the woowoo's are going ballistic by now! I don't dare even look at GLP. Why didn't he just pick Lucifer...

A Thousand Pardons
2005-Apr-19, 06:03 PM
Expect GLP and other woo-woo sites to start talking about this soon. The saint Malachy prophecies said that the next pope would be Benedict XVI. it has ocurred.
Weren't the Malachy prophecies just motto-type things? not names?

SeanF
2005-Apr-19, 06:50 PM
He was a Hitler Youth so I thought he might have picked the name Adolph the first.

...or modernized the Papacy and been Pope Yahoo the first.
His class was enrolled in the Hitler youth. When he found out, he quit.
He also deserted the German army after being conscripted.

At any rate, is anybody surprised that the new Pope does not meet with fossilnut2's approval? :)

Disinfo Agent
2005-Apr-19, 07:43 PM
Not to get too political here (also, as a pagan, I am somewhat of a bystander in all this) it appears that this guy is pretty conservative.
Yep.

jofg
2005-Apr-19, 08:03 PM
Yes, very conservative. But he was a close friend of JPIIs and he pretty much "ran the show" for a number of years. For what it's worth....

TriangleMan
2005-Apr-19, 08:23 PM
I know this is out of topic, but can anyone who has read Nostradamus answer me a question? It could have been read by curiosity. According to what I have been told, he said the last pope would be black, is that true?
One website "earthchanges" says that the prediction is in Century 2 Quatrain 85. Other google hits seem to go off of that.

This website (http://esoterism.com/nostradamus/centurie-ii.html) has all of the Centuries. Here's 2-85 in English and French


The old full beard under the severe statute
Made at Lyon over the Celtic Eagle:
The little great one perseveres too far:
Noise of arms in the sky: Ligurian sea red.

Le vieux [plein][plain] barbe sous le statut sevère,
A [Lion][Lyon] fait dessus l'Aigle Celtique,
Le petit grand trop outre persevère,
Bruit d'arme au ciel: mer rouge Ligustique.

I'm not seeing anything about a black pope here. *shock*

TriangleMan
2005-Apr-19, 08:30 PM
Expect GLP and other woo-woo sites to start talking about this soon. The saint Malachy prophecies said that the next pope would be Benedict XVI. it has ocurred.
Weren't the Malachy prophecies just motto-type things? not names?
Here's a listing of the prophecies from Catholic Pages.com (http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp) and it doesn't say he predicted names, just mottos. This one is supposed to be Gloria olivæ (somehow related to Olives or the colour olive?)

V-GER
2005-Apr-19, 08:39 PM
A Thousand Pardons wrote:

Weren't the Malachy prophecies just motto-type things? not names?

Also look here: http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=20758&

And anyone who knows which Nostradamus prophecy tells of a black Pope, please tell. I have the complete prophecies but I don't recall that one.

Doodler
2005-Apr-19, 08:42 PM
Pope Benedict XVI :)
Bah. After two John Pauls, I was hoping for George Ringo.

Aboltey brllint. Of t get a nw kybord! :lol:

Glom
2005-Apr-19, 09:50 PM
If he's the 265th Pope, that means that a Pope lasts less than 10 years on average.

As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that matters to the wider world is that BXVI continues JPII's good record of teaching peaceful coexistance with non-Catholics. Everything else is an internal matter for Catholics to decide for themselves.

Vega115
2005-Apr-19, 10:31 PM
Nostradomus - Century 2 087:

After there will come from the outermost countries
A German Prince, upon the golden throne:
The servitude and waters met,
The lady serves, her time no longer adored.


German...prince? Golden Throne? Don't wanna spread woo-woo..but isnt the pope also considered like a 'monarch' as he is teh supreme ruler of the Vatican City-State? Monarch = Prince?

*hides from wrath of possibly spreading woo-woo!! I just thought it was interesting*

mike alexander
2005-Apr-19, 10:42 PM
The lady serves, her time no longer adored

Obviously referring to Martina Navratilova.

frogesque
2005-Apr-19, 10:47 PM
Nostradomus - Century 2 087:

After there will come from the outermost countries
A German Prince, upon the golden throne:
The servitude and waters met,
The lady serves, her time no longer adored.


German...prince? Golden Throne? Don't wanna spread woo-woo..but isnt the pope also considered like a 'monarch' as he is teh supreme ruler of the Vatican City-State? Monarch = Prince?

*hides from wrath of possibly spreading woo-woo!! I just thought it was interesting*

Could also have refered to George (call me potty) III of England. As Germanic as sauerkraut and as nutty as a fruitcake.

collegeguy
2005-Apr-19, 10:49 PM
Nostradomus - Century 2 087:

After there will come from the outermost countries
A German Prince, upon the golden throne:
The servitude and waters met,
The lady serves, her time no longer adored.


German...prince? Golden Throne? Don't wanna spread woo-woo..but isnt the pope also considered like a 'monarch' as he is teh supreme ruler of the Vatican City-State? Monarch = Prince?

*hides from wrath of possibly spreading woo-woo!! I just thought it was interesting*

That doesn't make any woo-woo prophecies of doom. "The lady serves, her time no longer adored' does not imply anything. is this related to the pope necessarily? it doesn't seem to me like it would be. [-(

Bob
2005-Apr-19, 10:51 PM
Sadly ironic that J2P2 died only a few weeks before the premier of the final Star Wars movie.

mike alexander
2005-Apr-19, 10:54 PM
True. But I did notice that if you imagined a cowl over the new Pope's head, he looks a bit like Darth Sidious.

V-GER
2005-Apr-19, 11:30 PM
Nostradomus - Century 2 087:

After there will come from the outermost countries
A German Prince, upon the golden throne:
The servitude and waters met,
The lady serves, her time no longer adored.


German...prince? Golden Throne? Don't wanna spread woo-woo..but isnt the pope also considered like a 'monarch' as he is teh supreme ruler of the Vatican City-State? Monarch = Prince?

*hides from wrath of possibly spreading woo-woo!! I just thought it was interesting*

Could also have refered to George (call me potty) III of England. As Germanic as sauerkraut and as nutty as a fruitcake.

Nitpick, George I (some Nostradamus researches think this)

Lurker
2005-Apr-19, 11:46 PM
Sadly ironic that J2P2 died only a few weeks before the premier of the final Star Wars movie.
Was he connected with the Star Wars saga?? :o

Bob
2005-Apr-19, 11:56 PM
R2D2...C3P0..............J2P2

Lurker
2005-Apr-20, 12:30 AM
R2D2...C3P0..............J2P2

Why do I ask these questions???? #-o

:wink:

Kullat Nunu
2005-Apr-20, 01:31 PM
Cardinal Ratzinger has been head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith - formerly known as the Holy Office of the Inquisition - since 1981.

Was he... the chief inquisitor? :o

mid
2005-Apr-20, 02:11 PM
Well, I didn't expect that.

Argos
2005-Apr-20, 02:41 PM
They should pick a new name, for a change (Marcus, James, Lucas...).

TriangleMan
2005-Apr-20, 02:43 PM
'John Paul' was a new name. Don't want to bring in too many radical names in a century. :)

SeanF
2005-Apr-20, 02:45 PM
'John Paul' was a new name. Don't want to bring in too many radical names in a century. :)
"John Paul" may have been a new name, but that was last century. Last millenium, even. ;)

Actually, Joseph is a biblical name. He could've been the first Pope in some 500 years to keep his own name!

TriangleMan
2005-Apr-20, 02:46 PM
Well, I didn't expect that.
Nobody expects the German Inquisition!

Argos
2005-Apr-20, 02:51 PM
'John Paul' was a new name. Don't want to bring in too many radical names in a century. :)

Yes, JP I came up with a revolutionary naming solution (the first pope with a composite name - I suspect he brought other revolutions, but that´s another story) but it was a homage to two of the old names. I mean a really new name. :)

Argos
2005-Apr-20, 02:54 PM
Actually, Joseph is a biblical name. He could've been the first Pope in some 500 years to keep his own name!

It would be cool.

TriangleMan
2005-Apr-20, 02:55 PM
Wasn't the Archbishop of Sao Paulo a possible contender to be Pope? Bendict XVI is pretty old, maybe the Archbishop will have another chance, you should track him down and ask him to give himself a new name if he becomes Pope. 8)

Argos
2005-Apr-20, 02:59 PM
Wasn't the Archbishop of Sao Paulo a possible contender to be Pope? Bendict XVI is pretty old, maybe the Archbishop will have another chance, you should track him down and ask him to give himself a new name if he becomes Pope. 8)

Yeah, I´ll do that... :D

He could keep his original name too, a roman one (Claudio - Claudius). But I don´t think people would appreciate the pope picking the name of Caligula´s successor. :o

TriangleMan
2005-Apr-20, 04:03 PM
He could keep his original name too, a roman one (Claudio - Claudius). But I don´t think people would appreciate the pope picking the name of Caligula´s successor. :o
There were three popes named Julius, one named Marcus and one named Caius so why not? 8)

(edited to add: Heck, there was even a Pope Martin, Pope Eugene and Pope Cletus)

Jim
2005-Apr-20, 04:35 PM
Wasn't the Archbishop of Sao Paulo a possible contender to be Pope? Bendict XVI is pretty old, maybe the Archbishop will have another chance, you should track him down and ask him to give himself a new name if he becomes Pope. 8)

Pope Pele. Not Biblical, but a name held in deepest reverence throughout Brazil and much of the world.

A'a
2005-Apr-20, 05:07 PM
Pope Pele. Not Biblical, but a name held in deepest reverence throughout Brazil and much of the world.

I don't think naming a pope after a pagan goddess would have quite the desired effect. :D

Evan
2005-Apr-20, 05:20 PM
Nobody expects the German Inquisition!

On the news here last night they refered to B16 as "God's rotweiler".

I think what we are seeing here is the longest conclave in all history. They picked someone that won't make any changes and doesn't have much gas left in the tank. This allows for the real wrangling to go on as long as needed.

Argos
2005-Apr-20, 05:42 PM
Wasn't the Archbishop of Sao Paulo a possible contender to be Pope? Bendict XVI is pretty old, maybe the Archbishop will have another chance, you should track him down and ask him to give himself a new name if he becomes Pope. 8)

Pope Pele. Not Biblical, but a name held in deepest reverence throughout Brazil and much of the world.

That would be cool. Pele is already a pope from a different religion (but don´t tell this to the Argentine) :)

Evan
2005-Apr-20, 05:54 PM
A story: BenedictXVI.com


Tech blogger cybersquats God's Rottweiler

....He says he bought the url as a "game", noting: "If I didn't do it, someone less reputable would." Regarding what he will use the domain for, Cadenhead wisely concedes: "The decision would be guided by the idea not to **** off 1.1 billion [Roman Catholics]."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/20/blogger_cybersquats_pope/

SeanF
2005-Apr-20, 06:13 PM
Pope Pele. Not Biblical, but a name held in deepest reverence throughout Brazil and much of the world.
I don't think naming a pope after a pagan goddess would have quite the desired effect. :D
The first Pope who ever changed his name was a guy named Mercurius (Mercury) way back in the sixth century, and he changed it (John II) for that very reason.

Lurker
2005-Apr-20, 06:21 PM
As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that matters to the wider world is that BXVI continues JPII's good record of teaching peaceful coexistance with non-Catholics. Everything else is an internal matter for Catholics to decide for themselves.

I just hope he doesn't press the Catholic evangelical agenda as some observers have suggested he might. I already have enough trouble with unwelcome attempts to save my pagan hide... #-o

kleindoofy
2005-Apr-20, 06:56 PM
Here's a good one I heard today.

A nickname for this pope: "Paparazi" :oops: #-o

Normandy6644
2005-Apr-20, 07:45 PM
Here's a good one I heard today.

A nickname for this pope: "Paparazi" :oops: #-o

hahahahaha!

Nicolas
2005-Apr-20, 08:25 PM
the google adds for this thread :D :D :D :D

Fram
2005-Apr-21, 07:46 AM
the google adds for this thread :D :D :D :D

Nicolas, there is a separate thread for funny Google ads [-X :lol:

kucharek
2005-Apr-21, 01:46 PM
Have fun!

http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/PopeBenedict/main.asp

Candy
2005-Apr-21, 01:53 PM
the google adds for this thread :D :D :D :D

Nicolas, there is a separate thread for funny Google ads [-X :lol:
I love it. :lol:

Nicolas
2005-Apr-21, 04:29 PM
the google adds for this thread :D :D :D :D

Nicolas, there is a separate thread for funny Google ads [-X :lol:
I love it. :lol:

Oh well, At least I know there's a website attached to this board. :wink:

I can't stop myself from adding that, while it were all religous adds yesterday, they are all about hair repair today 8-[
And added to that: after typing this, it's all religous again! :o

Sigma_Orionis
2005-Apr-21, 06:38 PM
Wasn't the Archbishop of Sao Paulo a possible contender to be Pope? Bendict XVI is pretty old, maybe the Archbishop will have another chance, you should track him down and ask him to give himself a new name if he becomes Pope. 8)

Pope Pele. Not Biblical, but a name held in deepest reverence throughout Brazil and much of the world.

That would be cool. Pele is already a pope from a different religion (but don´t tell this to the Argentine) :)

Hey! I resent that! my father is from Argentina! :lol: OTOH almost everyone in this country roots for Brazil on the World Cup

Gillianren
2005-Apr-28, 02:32 AM
I think what we are seeing here is the longest conclave in all history. They picked someone that won't make any changes and doesn't have much gas left in the tank. This allows for the real wrangling to go on as long as needed.

ha! these guys are amateurs compared to some of the Renaissance cardinals! there are stretches in Catholic history where the church went years without even a token Pope!

that being said, it is pretty common practice to nominate someone you think is going to drop dead after a really long-reigning Pope, though no one was quite expecting John Paul I to have such a short reign as all that! reminds me of the Simpsons quote about William Henry Harrison.

the day of the funeral, the History Channel did Pope-o-rama all day--all Pope documentaries, all the time. those Renaissance Popes--whew! there was the 18-year-old one who probably died in the process of committing adultery. there was Lucrezia Borgia's father, for heaven's sake.

I just wonder if Pope Whichever-it-was-during-WW-II will now be relieved by history of being called the Nazi Pope.

(Pagan, but raised Catholic, which explains both the irreverence and the knowledge base.)[/i]

Lurker
2005-Apr-28, 02:39 AM
(Pagan, but raised Catholic, which explains both the irreverence and the knowledge base.)[/i]

Wow... does this sound familiar!! Raised Irish Catholic!! :o

Disinfo Agent
2005-Apr-28, 02:55 PM
those Renaissance Popes--whew! there was the 18-year-old one who probably died in the process of committing adultery. there was Lucrezia Borgia's father, for heaven's sake.
I guess there's a reason why they say that absolute power corrupts absolutely. :)

kucharek
2005-Apr-29, 01:19 PM
Same lucky guy here bought Cardinal Ratzinger's used VW Golf in January, which he is now selling on eBay. What a fortune... I hope, he gives part of the profit to charity.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20709-1590979,00.html

BTW:

The Pope is not known to drive, ...

Bad recherche. Ratzinger has no driving license at all. Like me. Hey, I've something in common with that guy 8)

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=68191&item=4545301 886&rd=1

Candy
2005-Apr-29, 05:24 PM
One posting on the site by a supposed buyer inquires: "Does black smoke or white smoke come out of the exhaust pipe?", a reference to the Vatican signal to show that a new pope has been chosen.

Cute article, kucharek.

Gillianren
2005-Apr-29, 07:10 PM
how much is that in US$? (no, I'm not sure I want to know; it would probably just depress me.)

WaxRubiks
2005-Apr-30, 02:50 PM
He is said to be a caretaker pope so maybe it will all end like in
The Shining..!!!


"Heeeeereees Johny"

kucharek
2005-May-06, 05:20 AM
The Golf has now been sold to an Online Casino in Texas for some €189,000, that's a quarter million dollars. The same that bought that Virgin Mary cheese sandwich.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4518939.stm