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sarongsong
2005-May-04, 05:29 PM
April 28, 2005 (http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-04/ka-ltc042705.php)
"...Geobioreactors are sites where microbial conversion of underground hydrocarbon deposits (oil, oil shales, and coal) to methane is ongoing. Such Geobioreactors may offer the potential of turning currently finite energy reserves into methane "farms" capable of long-term, sustainable energy generation..."

Glom
2005-May-04, 05:31 PM
Does this count as evidence for abiogenic production of fossil fuels?

Russ
2005-May-04, 05:38 PM
There are already very large methane farms in just about every city and town in the USA and Canada. They are called waste water treatment plants. All of the medium to very large plants generate enough methane to power some fair sized boilers, dry sludge, power stationary engines, etc.

Unfortunately, many of these plants don't recover the methane so it just goes into the air. Start a campaign in your town today! Methane recovery doesn't stink! :) :D :lol:

captain swoop
2005-May-05, 08:29 AM
Landfill sites produce a lot as well, we have qa huge site up the road a couple of miles, it was a huge Ironstone quarry that closed in the 40s It has been used a sa dump for about 30 years, they 'capped' it a couple of years a go and landscaped the site. Instead of just burning the gas off they have built a power plant next to it. Apparently there are a couple of dozen around the country now. Over towards Pickering a farmer has turned a large chunk of his farm over to Willow Coppice. it's sold to a Biomass generating plant, they ferment it and use the gas in a generator. What's left goes to Garden Centres as Peat Free potting Compost.

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Enzp
2005-May-05, 08:38 AM
If you have ever spent time behind a cow, you know there are four legged methane generators that are prolific. Herbivore flatulence is a major contributor of atmospheric methane.

frogesque
2005-May-05, 09:00 AM
Personally I don't think you can beat a good curry 8)

Swift
2005-May-05, 02:31 PM
Personally I don't think you can beat a good curry 8)
So feeding curry to a cow..... BAM! :lol:
(Maybe that's what happened to those toads?) :-k

Metricyard
2005-May-05, 03:45 PM
If you have ever spent time behind a cow, you know there are four legged methane generators that are prolific. Herbivore flatulence is a major contributor of atmospheric methane.

Quite true, but alot of farmers are turning this resource into electricity.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6838687/

another article (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/05/14/BAGJG6LG3R15.DTL&type=printable)

And one more (http://www.motherearthnews.com/library/1980_January_February/Cow_Power)

Enzp
2005-May-06, 04:46 AM
I was thinking more about the direct emissions rather than the conversion of solids, so to speak.

For a moment you gave me a bit of unpleasant imagery. I saw cows with tanks on their backs, and a collection duct connected to their back doors...

manure based gas generation is not new. We looked into it thirty years ago on our then hog farm. There is no shortage of the raw materials, either on the farm or in Washington DC.