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Glom
2005-Jun-08, 04:16 PM
It's because we are bullied (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2158507/6/)


Therefore, the case is closed as it in fact has been for a while now

Joni's response to all the scientific discussion has been to make an appeal to popularity and then declare that all of what we're talking is irrelevant. And since when is the case closed in any scientific discussion. The case is only closed when you want it to be closed for some ulterior purpose.

Candy
2005-Jun-08, 04:23 PM
Do you have a new girlfriend? :lol:

teddyv
2005-Jun-08, 05:57 PM
It's because we are bullied (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2158507/6/)


Therefore, the case is closed as it in fact has been for a while now

Joni's response to all the scientific discussion has been to make an appeal to popularity and then declare that all of what we're talking is irrelevant. And since when is the case closed in any scientific discussion. The case is only closed when you want it to be closed for some ulterior purpose.

Glom, since most on the board know your position (of which I am like-minded), this debate has unfortunately entered the realm of ideology and religious doctrine. You can only beat you head against the wall for so long. I don't mean to sound defeatist, but I really doubt that many countries like the US, Canada, UK etc., etc. will sacrifice their economies at the altar of the environment. The politicians will talk the talk, maybe even walk it a bit (throw money at it) but at the end of the day things won't change a whole lot. Perhaps I'm a bit cynical :) .

Technology will most likely reduce the pressure over the next decade. As I know you promote, a reduction in pollution is a far better approach, as that will have more immediate benefits for all people. Certainly a reduction in energy usage through efficiencies should be continued and no doubt will.

Glom
2005-Jun-08, 06:58 PM
I guess you're right. I say a bit of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on TV last night, the TV version made in early 80s or something and there was a joke in it about environmental doomsaying that indicates to me that this kind of thing has been pretty constant throughout the recent decades, even if the alleged causes have changed.

This (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2159145/6/) latest post really makes me feel like I'm banging my head against the wall. It has more ad hominems, more of "I don't want to listen to what you have to say because I accuse you of being an oil lacky/ignorant youth etc." He even has the nerve to suggest that I shouldn't be discussing this when he was the one who made the genocidal accusation on behalf of Janet Street Porter.