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collegeguy
2005-Jun-30, 07:17 PM
More people are jumping in the alien threat bandwagon:

Politicians) For the people of Japan, their hard-earned tax dollars at work with The Great Sasuke has led to some important discoveries. Some people worry about North Korea. Some people worry about Iraq. Some people worry about oil prices. But The Great Sasuke is a man of the people, and he decided to take up an important issue recently at assembly hall in Iwate. According to Sasuke, there is a crisis in Japan. Not inflationary rates, not the Yakuza, but instead... there's a problem with aliens. Sasuke recently gave a speech that caused laughter to leak out in assembly hall about the growing number of sightings of UFOs from residents in his district. He relayed his concerns with a straight face, talking about how shiny flying objects were floating in the sky at a super
high-speed of zig-zagging. For a half-hour, Sasuke debated with others about UFOs and martians, wondering what kind of threat they would impose on society. He even asked one person if their mother had sighted a UFO in the past. from:

http://www.puroresupower.com/

Here's a link with other footage claiming "UFOs" detected by the mexican air force. I thought I had heard an explanation on it:

snip

Even politicians are talking about this. We are going to see a rise in UFO believers in coming years.

publiusr
2005-Jun-30, 07:55 PM
Good! Now we just have to tell them that "Ramtha commands thee to join the one true church of the Heavy Lift. We need big rockets. The EELV heritics must be put to the sword. They rod and five segment solids--they comfort me..."

All must bow to Pope Griffin I

collegeguy
2005-Jun-30, 08:06 PM
I personally don't like politicians talking about this. It is going to bring more UFO woowoos our way.

The Supreme Canuck
2005-Jun-30, 08:20 PM
So, to bring a bit of seriousness to this... just what does EELV stand for?

collegeguy
2005-Jun-30, 08:27 PM
I don't get how the news didn't report all the "many' UFO sightings that Sasuke claims. The media are usually quick on reporting this stuff. Some time ago, they were making reports of strange lights in Iran. But they have said nothing in this case.

publiusr
2005-Jun-30, 08:40 PM
So, to bring a bit of seriousness to this... just what does EELV stand for?

Extremely Expensive Launch Vehicle

No..... (Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle)

Not so 'evolved' if you ask me--or Mike Griffin.

Maksutov
2005-Jun-30, 09:03 PM
Yo, collegeguy,

How about compressing your links as I did below. To see how just click on the "quote" button. Otherwise a lot of us will continue not to enjoy scrolling back and forth horizontally to read this thread.


More people are jumping in the alien threat bandwagon:

Politicians) For the people of Japan, their hard-earned tax dollars at work with The Great Sasuke has led to some important discoveries. Some people worry about North Korea. Some people worry about Iraq. Some people worry about oil prices. But The Great Sasuke is a man of the people, and he decided to take up an important issue recently at assembly hall in Iwate. According to Sasuke, there is a crisis in Japan. Not inflationary rates, not the Yakuza, but instead... there's a problem with aliens. Sasuke recently gave a speech that caused laughter to leak out in assembly hall about the growing number of sightings of UFOs from residents in his district. He relayed his concerns with a straight face, talking about how shiny flying objects were floating in the sky at a super
high-speed of zig-zagging. For a half-hour, Sasuke debated with others about UFOs and martians, wondering what kind of threat they would impose on society. He even asked one person if their mother had sighted a UFO in the past. from:

Their mother (http://www.puroresupower.com/)

Here's a link with other footage claiming "UFOs" detected by the mexican air force. I thought I had heard an explanation on it:

Mexican Air Force (http://www.areadownload.com/video/ufo/Ufo%20-%20Mexico%20-%20March%2005,%202004%20Mexican%20Air%20Force%20Pi lots%20Film%2011%20UFOS%20(from%20infrared%20camer a).mpg)

Even politicians are talking about this. We are going to see a rise in UFO believers in coming years.

Thanks!

Maksutov
2005-Jun-30, 09:06 PM
So, to bring a bit of seriousness to this... just what does EELV stand for?
(mit Plattdeutsche accent)

Every Engine Launches Vonce! 8)

The Supreme Canuck
2005-Jun-30, 09:14 PM
So, to bring a bit of seriousness to this... just what does EELV stand for?

Extremely Expensive Launch Vehicle

No..... (Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle)

Not so 'evolved' if you ask me--or Mike Griffin.

Thank you kindly.

Maksutov: Not helping! :P

Maksutov
2005-Jun-30, 09:20 PM
So, to bring a bit of seriousness to this... just what does EELV stand for?

Extremely Expensive Launch Vehicle

No..... (Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle)

Not so 'evolved' if you ask me--or Mike Griffin.

Thank you kindly.

Maksutov: Not helping! :P
One of the advantages to EELVs is that once the rocket goes up, we don't care where it comes down. That's no longer our department.

Jpax2003
2005-Jun-30, 10:21 PM
One of the advantages to EELVs is that once the rocket goes up, we don't care where it comes down. That's no longer our department.

Unless it lands in your department. :D

TriangleMan
2005-Jun-30, 10:34 PM
Sasuke recently gave a speech that caused laughter to leak out in assembly hall about the growing number of sightings of UFOs from residents in his district. He relayed his concerns with a straight face, talking about how shiny flying objects were floating in the sky at a super high-speed of zig-zagging. For a half-hour, Sasuke debated with others about UFOs and martians, wondering what kind of threat they would impose on society.
I would only be shocked by this if I were under the mistaken belief that democratic societies only elect people based on their critical-thinking skills. A politican can be as ATM as anyone else.

mike alexander
2005-Jun-30, 11:38 PM
Wehrner von Braun said:


One of the advantages to EELVs is that once the rocket goes up, we don't care where it comes down. That's no longer our department.

Not hypocritical, just apolitical.

Maksutov
2005-Jun-30, 11:49 PM
One of the advantages to EELVs is that once the rocket goes up, we don't care where it comes down. That's no longer our department.

Unless it lands in your department. :D
Und dot ist vy my department is in the lowest lefel von der blockhaus! :wink:

Maksutov
2005-Jun-30, 11:51 PM
Wehrner von Braun said:


One of the advantages to EELVs is that once the rocket goes up, we don't care where it comes down. That's no longer our department.

Not hypocritical, just apolitical.
LOL!


And what is it that put America in the forefront of the nuclear nations? And what is it that will make it possible to spend twenty billion dollars of your money to put some clown on the moon? Well, it was good old American know how, that's what, as provided by good old Americans like Dr. Wernher von Braun!

Superluminal
2005-Jul-01, 03:03 AM
Sasuke-san skoshi bit kichigai desu. :D

Wolverine
2005-Jul-01, 03:05 AM
Here's a link with other footage claiming "UFOs" detected by the mexican air force. I thought I had heard an explanation on it

A pair of articles courtesy of James C. Smith (http://skeptic.com/eskeptic07-24-04.html#1), Skeptic; Robert Sheaffer (http://www.csicop.org/si/2004-09/campeche.html), Skeptical Inquirer.

collegeguy
2005-Jul-01, 04:17 AM
could someone tell me how to post pics? I've got some "gems", I would like to post for further discussion.[/img]

Maksutov
2005-Jul-01, 05:38 AM
could someone tell me how to post pics? I've got some "gems", I would like to post for further discussion.[/img]
Shorten your link in the OP as I explained to you (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=495259#495259) so we don't have to keep scrolling back and forth and I'll tell you about pics.

collegeguy
2005-Jul-01, 05:48 AM
Never mind, check this link. It claims to show artwork of the past that depicts UFOs. UFO believers use this as a 'smoking gun":

http://www.ufoartwork.com/

Maksutov
2005-Jul-01, 06:04 AM
Well, due to eye strain, I'm done with this thread.

publiusr
2005-Jul-01, 03:11 PM
Never mind, check this link. It claims to show artwork of the past that depicts UFOs. UFO believers use this as a 'smoking gun":

http://www.ufoartwork.com/

At least the art is good. A lot of the paintings depict big meteors or small asteroid falls.

mickal555
2005-Jul-01, 03:19 PM
Yo, collegeguy,

How about compressing your links as I did below. To see how just click on the "quote" button. Otherwise a lot of us will continue not to enjoy scrolling back and forth horizontally to read this thread.


More people are jumping in the alien threat bandwagon:

Politicians) For the people of Japan, their hard-earned tax dollars at work with The Great Sasuke has led to some important discoveries. Some people worry about North Korea. Some people worry about Iraq. Some people worry about oil prices. But The Great Sasuke is a man of the people, and he decided to take up an important issue recently at assembly hall in Iwate. According to Sasuke, there is a crisis in Japan. Not inflationary rates, not the Yakuza, but instead... there's a problem with aliens. Sasuke recently gave a speech that caused laughter to leak out in assembly hall about the growing number of sightings of UFOs from residents in his district. He relayed his concerns with a straight face, talking about how shiny flying objects were floating in the sky at a super
high-speed of zig-zagging. For a half-hour, Sasuke debated with others about UFOs and martians, wondering what kind of threat they would impose on society. He even asked one person if their mother had sighted a UFO in the past. from:

Their mother (http://www.puroresupower.com/)

Here's a link with other footage claiming "UFOs" detected by the mexican air force. I thought I had heard an explanation on it:

Mexican Air Force (http://www.areadownload.com/video/ufo/Ufo%20-%20Mexico%20-%20March%2005,%202004%20Mexican%20Air%20Force%20Pi lots%20Film%2011%20UFOS%20(from%20infrared%20camer a).mpg)

Even politicians are talking about this. We are going to see a rise in UFO believers in coming years.

Thanks!
ditto that

sidmel
2005-Jul-01, 03:52 PM
There's been quit a lot of debunking of the whole painting issue. Many woowoos give you a low pixialation image without a good close up of their 'UFO'. Once you get something clearer and focus in on it, it turns out to be a cloud of angles or stylized symbols of the sun and moon.

collegeguy
2005-Jul-01, 06:00 PM
Did anyone see the picture of the "Annunaki"? David Icke would have loved that.

Wolverine
2005-Jul-01, 09:01 PM
Never mind, check this link. It claims to show artwork of the past that depicts UFOs. UFO believers use this as a 'smoking gun":

http://www.ufoartwork.com/

A number of the images used on that site can be found here (http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_eng.htm).

NEOWatcher
2007-Dec-18, 05:23 PM
2 years (and some) later, they still believe...

Japan's Top Government Spokesman: UFOs 'Definitely' Exist (http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5252296&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.4.1)


The government said in an official reply that it had "not confirmed sightings of unidentified flying objects believed to be from outer space."
Still, "I definitely believe they exist," Machimura said as reporters erupted in laughter.

I'm not sure what they say in the first quote. Probably by design.

laurele
2007-Dec-18, 11:08 PM
2 years (and some) later, they still believe...

Japan's Top Government Spokesman: UFOs 'Definitely' Exist (http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5252296&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.4.1)

I'm not sure what they say in the first quote. Probably by design.

UFOs as in unidentified flying objects can be said to exist as long as there is even a single incident of a flying object that no one can identify. They can be anything from bizarre weather phenomena to military testing by governments, etc. That is very different from the claim that they are extra-terrestrial, which is something else entirely. I don't know Japanese, so I have no idea how the language would distinguish this. I do know it is interesting that everyone assumes "believing in UFOs" means believing they are otherworldly when all the term means is they have not been identified.

KaiYeves
2007-Dec-18, 11:19 PM
Well, of course UFO's exist, because UFO means Unidentified Flying Object. Wether or not they are alien spaceships is another question.

NEOWatcher
2007-Dec-19, 01:10 PM
Unfortunately; they pulled the story off the link. But I did find others, and all with the same wording from AP.

I give the guy the benefit of the doubt, and chalk it up to reporting hype and language differences. I'm sure more was discussed in the conference. After all, there was an inquiry.

But; do we hear about that? NO. We just hear the regurgitated wording from the AP with stressing a comment that can be construed as believing in aliens.
(msnbc link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22308921/))


Still, Machimura professed his belief in extraterrestrial objects.
"I definitely believe they exist," he said as reporters erupted in laughter.


The end result is, he comes out appearing like he believes in aliens, which is probably the aim of the reporter.

WaxRubiks
2007-Dec-19, 01:51 PM
I know which country ghost whales might haunt.

Halcyon Dayz
2007-Dec-19, 03:09 PM
I know which country ghost whales might haunt.

Very OT...

But funny. :lol:

KaiYeves
2007-Dec-19, 08:25 PM
I know which country ghost whales might haunt.
Ghost whale songs:
"Boooooooooooooh."