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Laguna
2005-Jul-18, 09:18 AM
I just read on Spiegel Online (German Newspage) about a private mission
to mars. Has this alredy been discussed?
http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,365474,00.html
Translation:


Weather balloon to Mars

German Mars Society approaches its goal of sending its own probe to the red planet.
As researchers of the German Federal Armed Forces university Munich report, the measuring probe "Archimedes", which is to reach Mars on board a satellite of the private space travel association Amsat, passed first tests in weightlessness. With so-called parabola flights in an airbus, with which briefly weightlessness is reached, a prototype of the probe opened according to plan.

By a Ariane-5-Launcher "Archimedes" is to be carried in the luggage of the Amsat satellite P5A at the latest in 2009, to finally achieve a Mars orbit. There the balloon will unfold and will plow up to nine times through Mars atmosphere, says project manager Hannes Griebel. In the luggage: a highly soluble camera as well as sensors for the study of the outside atmosphere layers. Griebel: " if the mission succeeds, it will be the first weather balloon sent to mars."

Trebuchet
2005-Jul-18, 06:45 PM
highly soluble camera ???????

I wonder what they really meant.

01101001
2005-Jul-18, 07:00 PM
highly soluble camera ???????

I wonder what they really meant.
My money's on high-resolution.

Edit: after a minute of Google language translation, I'm more certain.

Input: a high-resolution camera
English -> German : eine hochauflösende Kamera

Input: eine hochauflösende Kamera
German -> English : a highly soluble camera

Swift
2005-Jul-18, 07:24 PM
highly soluble camera ???????

I wonder what they really meant.
:lol: Good thing there isn't a lot of water on Mars.

RBG
2005-Jul-18, 08:14 PM
Translation:
There the balloon will unfold and will plow up to nine times through Mars atmosphere, says project manager Hannes Griebel.

So I take it there will be some kind of plow device dangling from the balloon. I would think plowing nine times should be enough to prepare the ground for crops. The soluable balloon would add specific essential nutrients after a rain storm. This is the kind of space technology that could spin off as a benefit to us here on Earth... like Tang.

RBG

RBG
2005-Jul-18, 08:42 PM
oh, alright: ;^)

RBG

martinvi
2005-Jul-18, 09:18 PM
The same stuff published by The Mars Society: German Mars Society Balloon Mission Advances (http://www.marssociety.org/bulletins/Bulletin55.1.asp). It gives less details that the Spiegel-article.

The project page of Mars Society Deutschland e.V. (http://www.marssociety.de/html/index.php), English version: The Archimedes Project (http://www.marssociety.de/html/index.php?module=Static_Docs&type=user&func=view&f =Projekte/Archimedes/ArchimedesEN.html)

Laguna
2005-Jul-19, 07:16 AM
Translation:
There the balloon will unfold and will plow up to nine times through Mars atmosphere, says project manager Hannes Griebel.

So I take it there will be some kind of plow device dangling from the balloon. I would think plowing nine times should be enough to prepare the ground for crops. The soluable balloon would add specific essential nutrients after a rain storm. This is the kind of space technology that could spin off as a benefit to us here on Earth... like Tang.

RBG
This time I made no mistake. He did say "pflügen" = plow.
Sorry for soluble, that has slipped past my attention.

publiusr
2005-Jul-20, 06:51 PM
A balloon of this type (in the future) I would support. It would cover a lot of ground.

rasun
2007-Oct-31, 12:45 PM
The same stuff published by The Mars Society: German Mars Society Balloon Mission Advances (http://www.marssociety.org/bulletins/Bulletin55.1.asp). It gives less details that the Spiegel-article.

The project page of Mars Society Deutschland e.V. (http://www.marssociety.de/html/index.php), English version: The Archimedes Project (http://www.marssociety.de/html/index.php?module=Static_Docs&type=user&func=view&f =Projekte/Archimedes/ArchimedesEN.html)


An update on the Archimedes Project (http://spacefiles.blogspot.com/2007/10/p5a-amateur-satellite-to-mars.html), and more details about the Amateur Satellite built by AMSAT Germany that will take Archimedes to Mars.

rasun
2007-Oct-31, 12:51 PM
The same stuff published by The Mars Society: German Mars Society Balloon Mission Advances (http://www.marssociety.org/bulletins/Bulletin55.1.asp). It gives less details that the Spiegel-article.

The project page of Mars Society Deutschland e.V. (http://www.marssociety.de/html/index.php), English version: The Archimedes Project (http://www.marssociety.de/html/index.php?module=Static_Docs&type=user&func=view&f =Projekte/Archimedes/ArchimedesEN.html)

That project is still ongoing. They have been working on designing, building & testing the components for 5 years now! Last test in space above Earth will be early 2008 with a test prototype. If everything goes fine, they will be ready for the 2009 launch window.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-01, 01:11 AM
A weather balloon?
Well, make sure it doesn't crash in New Mexico...

mugaliens
2007-Nov-01, 08:08 AM
This time I made no mistake. He did say "pflügen" = plow.
Sorry for soluble, that has slipped past my attention.

Yes, but "flügen" means "flights," which makes a lot more sense, so perhaps it's just a spelling error?

Spelling here in Germany isn't anywhere near as standardized as it is in the states, and often people have described flying as "plowing through the skies" or "the atmosphere."

So...

Perhaps this clears things up a bit? No crops...

:lol: