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Maksutov
2005-Jul-31, 07:10 PM
Based on the BA's blog entry and the continual recurrence of this stuff, it might be good to have a thread where all the current and future instances of pareidolia can be documented. Who knows, maybe we'll detect a trend or something. Or at least determine which geographic areas, restaurants, taco shell manufacturers, etc., are, shall we say, suspect?

Here's the latest: Pilgrims flock to image of Jesus on tree (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-07-29T152648Z_01_L29318226_RTRIDST_0_ODD-ODD-BOSNIA-DC.XML). This one appears to be a cut above the average. 8)

sarongsong
2005-Jul-31, 08:18 PM
July 29 (http://paranormal.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf%3F/base/news%2D0/1122614734119280.xml%26coll=1)
"...According to witnesses, a Sacred Heart of Jesus statue in the shrine "opened its eyes" and turned its head slightly to the right yesterday afternoon, staring out at the scene in front of the [New Jersey] Jackson Street public housing complex..." :o

mickal555
2005-Aug-01, 07:53 AM
I saw a face in the sand dunes the other day... Does that count?

Maksutov
2005-Aug-01, 08:04 AM
I saw a face in the sand dunes the other day... Does that count?
Only if you can identify whose face it was, and then describe the supernatural significance of the event. 8)

Let me guess...TE Lawrence?

kucharek
2005-Aug-01, 08:09 AM
I always wonder why people know so well how Jesus really looked like.

pzkpfw
2005-Aug-01, 10:24 AM
["I always wonder why people know so well how Jesus really looked like."]

My understanding is that (Western) people generally base their idea of his image on what European painters painted in the centuries after his existence (with no photos to go by).

Based on his actual race and location, he is likely to have looked very different to what was painted.

Which begs two questions:
1. Where are all his real images? (The wrong branch was cut?)
2. Who is this other guy they keep seeing?

Cheers,

Donnie B.
2005-Aug-01, 12:41 PM
2. Who is this other guy they keep seeing?

Cheers,
Probably Jebus. Or so Homer Simpson would say... :wink:

Stardate
2005-Aug-01, 02:17 PM
2. Who is this other guy they keep seeing?

Cheers,
Probably Jebus. Or so Homer Simpson would say... :wink:
OMG! :lol:

Grey
2005-Aug-01, 03:05 PM
Here's the latest: Pilgrims flock to image of Jesus on tree (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-07-29T152648Z_01_L29318226_RTRIDST_0_ODD-ODD-BOSNIA-DC.XML). This one appears to be a cut above the average. 8)

Sceptics have dismissed the image as a freak of nature, but pilgrims have been streaming to the tree, kneeling before it to pray, lighting candles, leaving money and cutting off bark to take home.
So this will be a temporary sighting, then, I expect. Poor tree.

Gillianren
2005-Aug-01, 09:06 PM
Here's the latest: Pilgrims flock to image of Jesus on tree (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-07-29T152648Z_01_L29318226_RTRIDST_0_ODD-ODD-BOSNIA-DC.XML). This one appears to be a cut above the average. 8)

Sceptics have dismissed the image as a freak of nature, but pilgrims have been streaming to the tree, kneeling before it to pray, lighting candles, leaving money and cutting off bark to take home.
So this will be a temporary sighting, then, I expect. Poor tree.

exactly what I was thinking. I think it's a metaphor for something, but I'm not sure saying what is something I should do here.

Maksutov
2005-Aug-01, 09:38 PM
Here's the latest: Pilgrims flock to image of Jesus on tree (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-07-29T152648Z_01_L29318226_RTRIDST_0_ODD-ODD-BOSNIA-DC.XML). This one appears to be a cut above the average. 8)

Sceptics have dismissed the image as a freak of nature, but pilgrims have been streaming to the tree, kneeling before it to pray, lighting candles, leaving money and cutting off bark to take home.
So this will be a temporary sighting, then, I expect. Poor tree.
Ditto re the tree.

Plus one wonders if the amount of money remaining in the morning is the same as what was left the previous evening. If it is, it's a miracle!

Then again, to some, if it's all disappeared, it's a miracle!

:roll:

Melusine
2005-Aug-02, 01:50 AM
From this page: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/electronic-publications/stay-free/5/jesus.htm some of these are funny

1987
Jesus appears on the chimney of a suburban bowling alley. The four- foot high image is formed from rusting metal. Local truckers are split on whether the rust pattern on the chimney means anything other than it's time to buy a new chimney. Some say it looks like Popeye; others say it is Christ. A bowler at Town and Country Bowl had spotted the figure and immediately notified a Chicago television station. Town and Country owner Irwin Korzen says he and his employees noticed it months earlier but didn't think it was a big deal. (Chicago Tribune, June 24, 1987)

The other one about the Pizza Hut billboard is amusing. Then there's this:


1980
Oklahoma evangelist Oral Roberts spots a 900 foot Jesus straddling a hospital complex he is building next to his university. Roberts, interpreting the divine image as a plea for financial assistance, appeals to his followers and nets millions of dollars in donations. (Los Angeles Times, Oct. 8, 1992)

There was a program last week on The Science Channel about what Jesus most likely looked like, which would be a curlier-haired, darker skinned person. Are there as many "sightings" of other religious figures? I did a quick search, and it doesn't seem to be so. So, they're going to kill the tree, because of their iconic worship. Hmm....

AGN Fuel
2005-Aug-02, 07:18 AM
I always wonder why people know so well how Jesus really looked like.

:roll: 'Cos we've got his picture on that tortilla.

Stardate
2005-Aug-02, 11:24 AM
I always wonder why people know so well how Jesus really looked like.

:roll: 'Cos we've got his picture on that tortilla.
The BABB is better than a sitcom! =D> :lol:

Donnie B.
2005-Aug-02, 03:27 PM
If you're dyslexic, do you see images of dog in your shower curtain?

Maksutov
2005-Aug-11, 04:14 AM
I always wonder why people know so well how Jesus really looked like.
They know by means of all those eyewitness accounts and photographs. :wink:

BTW, at a particular company in South Carolina a walk through the cubicles would reveal evidence that ol' JC was a clean-shaven WASPish man, then a bearded WASPish hippie type, then a clean-shaven southern European type with long hair and a number of torso organs showing, then a person obviously of equatorial African descent, all depending on whose desk the rendering was on. :-k

Maksutov
2005-Aug-11, 04:51 AM
Here's an update and interpretation on the Joboken Jesus. (http://majikthise.typepad.com/majikthise_/2005/08/adventures_in_p.html) Nice link to the BA's personal Lenin! :D

Of course some types of pareidolia depend on where one's focus is:

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5299/vaseortwofaces4wr.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vaseortwofaces4wr.jpg)

:D

NEOWatcher
2005-Aug-11, 11:36 AM
I always wonder why people know so well how Jesus really looked like.

:roll: 'Cos we've got his picture on that tortilla.
Or a perogi. (http://cgi.ebay.com/face-of-Jesus-on-perogi_W0QQitemZ6199742902QQcategoryZ1447QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) (up to $760 :roll: )

paulie jay
2005-Aug-12, 04:45 AM
I once thought that I saw Jebus' face in a record shop - it was just Kris Kristofferson. It kinda looked like it was in negative - so I suppose what I really saw was the anti-Krist...

Donnie B.
2005-Aug-12, 03:03 PM
I once thought that I saw Jebus' face in a record shop - it was just Kris Kristofferson. It kinda looked like it was in negative - so I suppose what I really saw was the anti-Krist...
:lol:

Melusine
2005-Aug-13, 01:54 AM
Added to the new perogi on EBay currently going for over $1,000, is the Pancake Angel (http://www.nbc11.com/slideshow/news/4806458/detail.html?qs=;s=4;p=news;dm=ss;w=400)

Countdown (http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&t opicId=100007220&docId=l:300815075&start=3) added this to the list of other food sightings:


To Forest Hill, Maryland. And this is the kitchen of Tony Quinn. Tony Quinn tried to make pancakes. Tony Quinn is a lousy cook. So when Tony Quinn made pancakes, he forgot to butter the pan. When he poured some pancake batter into the butterless frying pan, realized his error, and pulled out the doomed pancake, that`s when Tony realized this was one special doomed pancake.

That`s right, don`t adjust your screen. It`s an angel, a pancake angel. A pancake angel that Tony believes was sent from God to remind us all to pray. Tony Quinn promises not to eat the pancake, but we here at COUNTDOWN are pretty eyed good idea where this is going.

Now, Tony didn`t mention the auction site eBay, but it wouldn`t surprise us if he joined the high-bidding ranks of the Virgin Mary grilled cheese, the grilled ham-and-cheese Jesus, fishstick Jesus, potato chip Jesus, Madonna in a honey-mustard pretzel, and lastly, don`t forget about the Father, Son, and the Holy Toast.

Melusine
2005-Aug-13, 01:56 AM
Another recent one is Jesus stained on the bathroom wall (http://www.nbc11.com/slideshow/news/3709830/detail.html?qs=;s=98;p=news;dm=ss;w=320;tn=b). That's being auctioned...wonder what the rest of the house looks like. [-(

Melusine
2005-Aug-13, 01:59 AM
And this one looks like a stretch given this picture: Jesus in the apartment window (http://www.nbc11.com/slideshow/news/3709830/detail.html?qs=;s=109;p=news;dm=ss;w=320;tn=b). Jesus is really mobile!

Sam5
2005-Aug-13, 02:23 AM
Based on the BA's blog entry and the continual recurrence of this stuff, it might be good to have a thread where all the current and future instances of pareidolia can be documented. Who knows, maybe we'll detect a trend or something. Or at least determine which geographic areas, restaurants, taco shell manufacturers, etc., are, shall we say, suspect?

Here's the latest: Pilgrims flock to image of Jesus on tree (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-07-29T152648Z_01_L29318226_RTRIDST_0_ODD-ODD-BOSNIA-DC.XML). This one appears to be a cut above the average. 8)


There were some guys who used to think they could see canals on Mars.

Melusine
2005-Aug-13, 02:40 AM
Based on the BA's blog entry and the continual recurrence of this stuff, it might be good to have a thread where all the current and future instances of pareidolia can be documented. Who knows, maybe we'll detect a trend or something. Or at least determine which geographic areas, restaurants, taco shell manufacturers, etc., are, shall we say, suspect?

Here's the latest: Pilgrims flock to image of Jesus on tree (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-07-29T152648Z_01_L29318226_RTRIDST_0_ODD-ODD-BOSNIA-DC.XML). This one appears to be a cut above the average. 8)


There were some guys who used to think they could see canals on Mars.
Do you really think there is any comparison between someone thinking they are seeing certain geological features on a distant planet to those who see Jesus in the stained plaster of their bathroom?

Sam5
2005-Aug-13, 10:06 PM
Based on the BA's blog entry and the continual recurrence of this stuff, it might be good to have a thread where all the current and future instances of pareidolia can be documented. Who knows, maybe we'll detect a trend or something. Or at least determine which geographic areas, restaurants, taco shell manufacturers, etc., are, shall we say, suspect?

Here's the latest: Pilgrims flock to image of Jesus on tree (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-07-29T152648Z_01_L29318226_RTRIDST_0_ODD-ODD-BOSNIA-DC.XML). This one appears to be a cut above the average. 8)


There were some guys who used to think they could see canals on Mars.
Do you really think there is any comparison between someone thinking they are seeing certain geological features on a distant planet to those who see Jesus in the stained plaster of their bathroom?

Didn't Maksutov call it "pareidolia"? It looks like something to some people but it's actually something else?

Melusine
2005-Aug-14, 08:01 PM
Based on the BA's blog entry and the continual recurrence of this stuff, it might be good to have a thread where all the current and future instances of pareidolia can be documented. Who knows, maybe we'll detect a trend or something. Or at least determine which geographic areas, restaurants, taco shell manufacturers, etc., are, shall we say, suspect?

Here's the latest: Pilgrims flock to image of Jesus on tree (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-07-29T152648Z_01_L29318226_RTRIDST_0_ODD-ODD-BOSNIA-DC.XML). This one appears to be a cut above the average. 8)


There were some guys who used to think they could see canals on Mars.
Do you really think there is any comparison between someone thinking they are seeing certain geological features on a distant planet to those who see Jesus in the stained plaster of their bathroom?

Didn't Maksutov call it "pareidolia"? It looks like something to some people but it's actually something else?
Hmm...I don't think "pareidolia" should be used so casually to define any or every optical illusion. "Pareidolia" isn't even yet recognized in major dictionaries, such as the Oxford English Dictionary or Merriam-Webster's, so given it's origin from Skepdic.com (http://skepdic.com/pareidol.html) and recent use as noted by Word Spy (http://www.wordspy.com/words/pareidolia.asp), I don't your example quite fits the origin and intention of the word. I'm not trying to quibble, but there were already words to describe the psychological phenomena of seeing things a certain way, as the Skeptic Dictionary notes apophenia (http://skepdic.com/apophenia.html). The Skeptic Dictionary appears to assign the word to psychological tendencies to see things not logically related in any way, such as faces; when Shiaperelli thought he saw channels it turned out to be an optical illusion, which doesn't fit with the definition of pareidolia (and so far, the SD looks to be the one to define it since they don't cite its origin). That others mistated his channels to mean canals, and went on with theories about the possibility of intelligent-life made canals is probably wishful thinking and Science Fiction fodder. It was found that kids in a class who were in the back of a room drew a representation of Mars with lines, whereas those in the front didn't.

Optical illusions don't seem to be the same thing as "pareidolia" or the intention of the word doesn't imply general optical illusions--it appears that the word was created to describe all these face/dolphin/glass worms, etc sightings on Mars, and Jesus everywhere. If I look at a picture of a planet and think I'm seeing a mountain and upon a closer satellite image it is not, in fact, a mountain, is that pareidolia? I don't think so--it may have been a simple optical illusion by way of photography or something. I'm not ready to ascribe every optical illusion to this new term pareidolia, especially since there's not a whole lot of psychological baggage or prejudice in seeing a mountain on a geological feature; there are already terms for different kinds of optical illusions, and pareidolia would be so broad. So, I don't think Schiaparelli's (or others) seeing lines as channels are such, as others who saw lines using different apertures on telescopes. Lowell's developing a whole theory of canals based on data is another matter.

Not everyone agrees, and throws Schiaparelli's channels in the pareidolia mix, as, here (http://palermoproject.com/lowell2004/legacy4.htm), but I'm going to go along with SkepDic's definition and what appears to be their intention, since they say it is a type of illusion, which seems to be heavy on delusion. Most people when provided evidence of their illusions just leave it that, the rest are operating in an abnormal mental state.

Sam5
2005-Aug-14, 11:57 PM
Optical illusions don't seem to be the same thing as "pareidolia" or the intention of the word doesn't imply general optical illusions--it appears that the word was created to describe all these face/dolphin/glass worms, etc sightings on Mars, and Jesus everywhere. If I look at a picture of a planet and think I'm seeing a mountain and upon a closer satellite image it is not, in fact, a mountain, is that pareidolia? I don't think so--it may have been a simple optical illusion by way of photography or something. I'm not ready to ascribe every optical illusion to this new term pareidolia, especially since there's not a whole lot of psychological baggage or prejudice in seeing a mountain on a geological feature; there are already terms for different kinds of optical illusions, and pareidolia would be so broad.

Well, what is Sleeping Ute Mountin up in Utah? What would you call that? That's not an "optical illusion." It is a mountain that looks like a sleeping Ute. But people who aren't familiar with Utes might not notice it.

The "canals" of Mars had a lot of psychological baggage associated with them, since it was commonly believed throughout the 19th Century that Mars was inhabited. And that is not an "optical illusion" because there are no long straight lines on Mars that were mistaken for "canals". People saw what they wanted to see when they looked at the surface features. Some people saw blurs, others saw "canals".

Melusine
2005-Aug-15, 05:04 AM
Well, what is Sleeping Ute Mountin up in Utah? What would you call that? That's not an "optical illusion." It is a mountain that looks like a sleeping Ute. But people who aren't familiar with Utes might not notice it.

That would be what is described as pareidolia--the mountain looks like a sleeping Ute to whomever has the idea of what a sleeping Ute looks like, no different than seeing a teddy bear cloud surfing on the ocean or what have you. That wasn't what I was referring to if one sees what appears to be a mountain in a photograph due to some optical illusion.

The "canals" of Mars had a lot of psychological baggage associated with them, since it was commonly believed throughout the 19th Century that Mars was inhabited.

I read a bunch of sites before I posted, and I never got the impression that Schiaparelli thought that his channels implied that there was life on Mars, in fact, quite the opposite, as he was apparently annoyed his observations led to the speculation of canals. He saw lines, some people before him saw lines, others saw wavy lines, not straight lines, some none at all. It was Lowell who jumped all over the channel thing. But no doubt, people thought long before that there could be life on Mars or other planets.

And that is not an "optical illusion" because there are no long straight lines on Mars that were mistaken for "canals". People saw what they wanted to see when they looked at the surface features. Some people saw blurs, others saw "canals".

Well, there are different ideas as to why some saw lines when they did, and its often attributed to an optical illusion. As I said, Lowell was a different story since he seized this martian-made canal idea (definitely wanting to believe something he had no evidence for), but I don't think you can say with certainty what others saw at the time. Sure, we now know there are no lines. I see dark patches on the moon, maybe they are lakes or seas--would that necessarily be because I want to believe there is life on the moon? (Of course, I don't think that, but it's not unreasonable to have thought they looked like lakes if one had no lunar knowledge). Is an astronaut's footprint raised or recessed in the lunar soil? Is that pareidolia or an optical illusion? These are not the same things as seeing dolphin shapes in geological features, or giant translucent worms or Jesus in a potato chip. It's natural for us to recognize familiar shapes in things--I see a face on the moon too--it's just not rational to ascribe any meaning to them. Like I said, pareidolia is a new word; I like that it is used for what seems to be a craze of face findings in recent years.

I need to pay closer attention to my food--might help supplement my income. :P

Donnie B.
2005-Aug-15, 11:46 AM
It's a common misconception that Schiaparelli reported that he saw canali on Mars. In fact, he thought he saw canoli on Mars. It was a long, hungry night at the observatory. :wink:

Gillianren
2005-Aug-15, 07:36 PM
Well, what is Sleeping Ute Mountin up in Utah? What would you call that? That's not an "optical illusion." It is a mountain that looks like a sleeping Ute. But people who aren't familiar with Utes might not notice it.


surely Utes look like people, and therefore a "sleeping Ute" would just be a "sleeping person" to someone unfamiliar with Utes?

NEOWatcher
2008-Jul-31, 07:44 PM
Based on the BA's blog entry...

Wow; 3 years to the day, and we get another Pereidolia mention in a BA Blog (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/31/the-intersection-of-pareidolia/).. I wonder if Phil's keeping some sort of schedule.

Why did I get to this thread though?
Another one in the news (http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=94024&catid=45) if you are interested.
This time it's an Angel in a window of a carpet store.


You can't see the image during the day.
You can only see it, when the express mart turns on its lights, which leads some people to think it's only a reflection.

And the video is even worse. Oooh, if it's a reflection, it's a mystery as to what it is a reflection of.
Did anyone look? It looks like some kind of valve or flange to me.

chrissy
2008-Jul-31, 08:14 PM
I wonder if the carpet shop owners made the threat to the garage owner! It is a reflection from the garage, thats why they can't see it when his lights are off.

She has quite a bulbous nose too! ;)

Swift
2008-Jul-31, 08:15 PM
You can only see it, when the express mart turns on its lights, which leads some people to think it's only a reflection.
\little girl voice\
Teacher says, every time Express Mart turns on its lights, an angel gets its wings.

mike alexander
2008-Jul-31, 08:31 PM
Looks more like Angel Magoo.

KaiYeves
2008-Jul-31, 08:47 PM
When I was a little kid, I saw a cloud that looked like a Hindu symbol I had recently seen in a book.
I said "That cloud looks kind of like that symbol I saw the picture of, but it's probably just me."
And then I turned away and did something else.

mike alexander
2008-Jul-31, 08:57 PM
On the local news last night there was a story about a woman who found a Cheeto in the shape of Jesus.

He was delicious.

Kaptain K
2008-Jul-31, 11:36 PM
Heaven help us! Hundreds of people show up every night and they think it's the angel that is protecting them from vandalism! Hello! How about it's hard to tag with all those people watching. Duh!

jrkeller
2008-Aug-01, 12:07 AM
Video Link (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3195295/9040370) in Jesus in a Cheeto

NEOWatcher
2008-Aug-04, 06:06 PM
Update to the carpet store angel...Now Jesus is in a nearby palm tree (http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=94199&catid=45).


Marcos De La Cruz is a minister at a newly formed church on the property next to window at Colortile and next to the palm tree.
It looks like there might be a little incentive to drive the attention. :think:

Besides, nobody checked out the reflection yet?

NEOWatcher
2009-Jul-07, 03:46 PM
Of course, with the current celebrity news... we had to get at least one image of him.

Jackson image in tree? (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/07/06/ca.im.image.in.tree.kovr)

It's probably one of the worst examples of pereidolia I have seen in the news.
I don't think it even looks like the scarecrow.

Fazor
2009-Jul-07, 03:52 PM
It's a knot in a tree. It looks like a knot in a tree. Nothing more.
It's not even knot interesting.

chrissy
2009-Jul-07, 09:06 PM
Hummmm! I am just getting a link to CNN and news about a codex from the bible!!!

NEOWatcher
2009-Jul-08, 12:19 PM
Hummmm! I am just getting a link to CNN and news about a codex from the bible!!!
Just google michael jackson in a tree [k.i.s...]. Here's one (http://cbs13.com/local/michael.jackson.tree.2.1072797.html).

closetgeek
2009-Jul-08, 06:45 PM
Call me crazy but it looks like an angry ghost thing from Pac-Man.

mugaliens
2009-Jul-09, 08:25 AM
Looks to me like the cowardly lion with a fro.

Or (a) knot.

matthewota
2009-Jul-14, 10:30 PM
It amazes me how much the human brain is wired to recognize faces.

chrissy
2009-Jul-15, 08:43 PM
Just google michael jackson in a tree [k.i.s...]. Here's one (http://cbs13.com/local/michael.jackson.tree.2.1072797.html).

Thanks. All I see is a old stump with a dark patch and cracks in it. Nothing else.

mahesh
2009-Jul-16, 01:30 AM
Half-eaten pizza....stuffed-crust ordered by mistake.

matthewota
2009-Aug-12, 08:00 PM
Pareidlia Blog (http://facesinplaces.blogspot.com/)

NEOWatcher
2010-Jan-05, 06:45 PM
Potatoes' crosses appear to online sellers (http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=128292&catid=3)

Two Midwestern families are hoping for a little leftover holiday spirit -- and cash -- after they found what appear to be crosses inside potatoes.
No picture, but here's a link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Holy-Cross-found-in-potato-on-Christmas-Day_W0QQitemZ260532505552QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item3ca8f28bd0) to one of them on Ebay.

Sorry; but I can probably pick up any bag of potatoes that look like they have some rather large ones in it, and find at least one.

I can't even imagine the number of times I've ran into potatoes with this condition. It's probably any potato that is left to overgrow.

BigDon
2010-Jan-05, 08:16 PM
I was told by my farm raised mother that is classic cold damage.

Back in '72.

Swift
2010-Jan-05, 08:42 PM
Potatoes' crosses appear to online sellers (http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=128292&catid=3)

No picture, but here's a link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Holy-Cross-found-in-potato-on-Christmas-Day_W0QQitemZ260532505552QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item3ca8f28bd0) to one of them on Ebay.

Starting bid $1000. Yeah right. That would make me cross. :p

Fazor
2010-Jan-05, 08:46 PM
I bet that potato is so divine that one could use it's divine energy to light up a small light bulb!

BigDon
2010-Jan-05, 11:12 PM
Starting bid $1000. Yeah right. That would make me cross. :p

Put a couple of spuds in the freezer for a little bit. Much cheaper and just as devote.

NEOWatcher
2012-Nov-15, 06:08 PM
A bit of a bump on this one.

A study to show which types of people see faces more than others.

See Jesus in toast? Elvis on a chip? Science tells who sees faces in objects (http://bodyodd.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/15/15169995-see-jesus-in-toast-elvis-on-a-chip-science-tells-who-sees-faces-in-objects?lite)

Paranormal and religious believers had a lower criteria for believing they saw a face, and they also rated faces as more face-like and showing stronger emotions. These findings imply believers may be more susceptible to the suggestion that faces may be present in the images.
"susceptible to suggestion" seems like a key phrase here.... Gullible.

Anyway; The study reminded me of that commercial where they showed everday objects in a smile. I can't remember the commercial or most of the things they showed, I just remember a small yellow plane smiling (perhaps a Piper Cub (http://www.m0a.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/yellow-cub-m0a.jpg))

Hornblower
2012-Nov-15, 07:27 PM
A bit of a bump on this one.

A study to show which types of people see faces more than others.

See Jesus in toast? Elvis on a chip? Science tells who sees faces in objects (http://bodyodd.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/15/15169995-see-jesus-in-toast-elvis-on-a-chip-science-tells-who-sees-faces-in-objects?lite)

"susceptible to suggestion" seems like a key phrase here.... Gullible.

Anyway; The study reminded me of that commercial where they showed everday objects in a smile. I can't remember the commercial or most of the things they showed, I just remember a small yellow plane smiling (perhaps a Piper Cub (http://www.m0a.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/yellow-cub-m0a.jpg))

My perceptions of the pictures in the linked article:

1. I see nothing on the train that jumps out at me as a face.

2. Forehead, ears, eyes and upper part of trunk of an elephant. This was after staring at it for a few seconds.

3. A woman's face jumped out at me in the sandwich, but I had no idea who she might be.

4. After looking at the tree for a few seconds, I saw a woman with the right attire and position before playing it to see the Virgin Mary picture for comparison.

5. I instantly thought "Jesus" on the frying pan, before seeing the printed name next to it.

Grey
2012-Nov-15, 07:28 PM
This commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFhHRYJsjgI), right?

NEOWatcher
2012-Nov-15, 11:22 PM
This commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFhHRYJsjgI), right?
Yep. That's the one.

Solfe
2012-Nov-16, 12:11 AM
"susceptible to suggestion" seems like a key phrase here.... Gullible.

I disagree. I see stylized faces in all the images. You would only be gullible or susceptible to suggestion if you saw a specific face after being told what to see.

Image one: The Iron Giant.
Image two: The Creature from the Black Lagoon. Several others in the other blocks.
Image three: Strangely, Greta Garbo.
Image four: Death or a shrouded figure.
Image five: Shakespeare.

Van Rijn
2012-Nov-16, 01:58 AM
1. Nothing. I can sort of guess a couple ways a person might get a face from it, but that's it.
2. Very vague, I had to look at it for awhile before I came up with an impression of an animated alien face.
3. Looks like a zombie, one eye half open, the other gone, parts of the face missing.
4. Nothing.
5. Probably the most facelike of the images. It says right there "Jesus in a frying pan" so I couldn't avoid reading it before looking at the picture, unfortunately.

closetgeek
2012-Nov-18, 04:28 PM
This commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFhHRYJsjgI), right?

A bit off topic but does anyone know the name of that music piece? I've heard it quite often and think it is absolutely beautiful.

caveman1917
2012-Nov-18, 05:34 PM
A bit off topic but does anyone know the name of that music piece? I've heard it quite often and think it is absolutely beautiful.

Cello Suite no 1 (prelude) by Bach

Gillianren
2012-Nov-18, 07:44 PM
Know it? I have the sheet music! (Look, there's not a lot of music written for viola, so the more advanced your lessons, the more likely you are to play something written for another instrument and transposed.) We were at Arts Walk a while ago, and there was a girl playing it (on cello); the problem with knowing the piece as well as I do was that I could always hear when she screwed up.

NEOWatcher
2012-Nov-19, 08:37 PM
I disagree. I see stylized faces in all the images. You would only be gullible or susceptible to suggestion if you saw a specific face after being told what to see.
It's not a matter of being able to see it or not, it's just a matter of degree. Besides, it's just a lighthearded comment.

But; to your point, it would be interesting to see the same experiment done with artistic types vs non-artistic types. (maybe by profession or type of degree)

publiusr
2012-Nov-19, 10:39 PM
I remember a tree whose outline seemed to be that of a bearded man. My favorite I saw here with an ice flow that seemed to look like TOS Trek's Vaal. I forgot who posted that. In the middle of a lake or stream. I loved that one. Any ideas?

Here in Alabama, Kudzu loves to turn trees and telephone poles into shaggy monsters in the moonlight.

Great Kudzulthu
http://terra4incognita.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/dscf1949.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/riverst/2421576268/ kdzul

Now in certain times, along certain hilltops, the winds will be felt on higher elevations first, allowing branches to sway and leaves to rustle before the wind is felt on ground level. Once a young child was found--dead of fright it was said--along the rails of a dis-used line before a twisted tree covered with Kudzu that looked very like a squatting figure. The topography of Dunwich lends itself to the legends of certain "airy presences." in lore. Yet the child was an emerging athlete on his squad. Cause of death unknown. In a later tornado outbreak, the kudzu covered growths circled the invisible funnel core, almost seeming to dance as the suction vortices piped and whistled about.


psych!

Noclevername
2012-Nov-21, 03:23 AM
Some years back my mother dragged me to a site that had an image that supposedly looked like the Virgin Mary. There was a half-built building surrounded by pilgrims and tourists, with large windows that had iridescent rainbow streaks on them, as if some impurity was in the glass or a glare coating was improperly applied. If you turned your head and squinted from the right angle, they formed a shape vaguely like a bulky hooded, cloaked humanoid, or a naked Wookiee. How they got from that to Her is still beyond me.

HenrikOlsen
2012-Nov-21, 05:48 PM
People are likelier to see pareidolia as something they're familiar with (logical really, you can only recognize something you know), so catholics being "better" at seeing the Madonna makes a lot of sense, since it's imagery they've been massively exposed to.

NEOWatcher
2013-May-15, 05:02 PM
I've kind of been ignoring the "Jesus in a..." or "Mother Mary in a..." lately because people tend to see it based on their faith and not their ignorance.
But; this one struck me as funny because of what the observer said about it:
Jesus in a newspaper ink blot (http://www.wfsb.com/story/22244792/man-says-he-found-jesus-in-a-local-newspaper?hpt=us_bn7)

"If Jesus is really trying to send me a message, I wish he popped up in the Lotto section instead," he told The Hour. "Does he want me to see a movie?"

Personally, I think it looks more like George Washington.

Swift
2013-May-15, 07:00 PM
Personally, I think it looks more like George Washington.
Really? It doesn't even look vaguely like a human face to me, let alone George or Jesus.

Noclevername
2013-May-15, 07:07 PM
It looks like Dr. Zoidberg goes Rastafarian to me.

HenrikOlsen
2013-May-15, 07:52 PM
I though it looked like Dog from the parallel/opposite Red Dwarf universe.

KaiYeves
2013-May-15, 10:36 PM
It looks like a lion to me.

(Oh, and the first Kudzu monster publiusr posted reminds me of the tallest tower in the Hubble "Pillars of Creation" image.)

Moose
2013-May-16, 12:45 AM
Saber-toothed tiger on a rock peering down at you snoopy-vulture-style.

Luckmeister
2013-May-16, 01:16 AM
It looks like a lion to me.

My thought when first seeing it was the cowardly lion from Wizard of Oz.

Noclevername
2013-May-16, 01:25 AM
I know what it looks like! A thumbprint. A wet, smeary thumbprint on newspaper ink.

Gillianren
2013-May-16, 02:12 AM
If anything, Pinocchio with dreadlocks. Seriously--look at the nose!

Swift
2013-May-16, 02:41 AM
Pinocchio with dreadlocks.
:surprised: Wow, there's a concept... man. http://www.nflfever2.com/nflfever/Smileys/default/1smileyrasta.gif

Noclevername
2013-May-16, 03:12 AM
Which part's the nose? Is it the grey blob or the gray blob?

Gillianren
2013-May-16, 04:12 PM
The pointy-looking bit in the middle. To me, it looks like a dowel, which is what Pinocchio's nose is.

Solfe
2013-May-17, 01:34 AM
I know what it looks like! A thumbprint. A wet, smeary thumbprint on newspaper ink.

Sometimes, an ink blot is just an ink blot.

Swift
2013-May-17, 01:08 PM
Sometimes, an ink blot is just an ink blot.
And a cigar is just a smoke...

http://www.crf2.com/images/smilies/groucho.gif

publiusr
2013-May-24, 08:48 PM
Love that smily.

I call dibs on it being the Cloverfield monster.

NEOWatcher
2013-May-30, 07:44 PM
J.C. Penney removes billboard of tea kettle said to resemble Hitler (http://www.today.com/news/j-c-penney-removes-billboard-tea-kettle-said-resemble-hitler-6C10130981)
I think this one's a real stretch.
If it resembles anyone, I would have to say Dennis Kucinich (http://img.timeinc.net/time/2007/facial_expressions/dennis_kucinich.jpg). I think it's the round nose.
Besides, you can argue the fact that they both have the potential to generate a lot of hot air and steam.

Gillianren
2013-May-30, 09:00 PM
I can see it, since they've mentioned it, but I'm not sure I would have otherwise. I also had a friend who wanted the kettle because of the outcry, but it's sold out pretty much across the country, apparently. Apparently, Godwin's Teakettle was funny to a lot of people.

Noclevername
2013-May-30, 09:05 PM
I looked at the pictures and I still can't see it. I know they think the handle looks like his hair etc, but it just doesn't fit together to me.

Swift
2013-May-30, 09:22 PM
If it resembles anyone, I would have to say Dennis Kucinich (http://img.timeinc.net/time/2007/facial_expressions/dennis_kucinich.jpg). I think it's the round nose.
Besides, you can argue the fact that they both have the potential to generate a lot of hot air and steam.
I think I'm one of the few people here that will laugh at that. Its still better than the Ralph Perk tea kettle, which sets itself on fire. ;)

NEOWatcher
2013-May-31, 04:01 PM
I looked at the pictures and I still can't see it. I know they think the handle looks like his hair etc, but it just doesn't fit together to me.
The knob is supposed to be his mustache (I think).

Noclevername
2013-May-31, 04:10 PM
The knob is supposed to be his mustache (I think).

The parts other than the hair was the etc. I just didn't feel like listing everything on his face. ;)

Strange
2013-May-31, 04:16 PM
The BBC has an article about this, including a house that look like Hitler (supposedly - I'm obviously really bad at pareidolia):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22686500

Noclevername
2013-May-31, 04:24 PM
The BBC has an article about this, including a house that look like Hitler (supposedly - I'm obviously really bad at pareidolia):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22686500

The article says there's "a Tumblr site that specialises in finding things that look like Hitler."

...What do the designers of such a site tell their parents when asked about their work?

Noclevername
2013-May-31, 04:27 PM
Speaking of Pareidolia, my desktop image is of a natural stone arch in Arizona that looks like a pair of bell-bottom pants with legs extended to walk. Every time I look at it I think "Keep on truckin'!"

Trebuchet
2013-May-31, 04:30 PM
The article says there's "a Tumblr site that specialises in finding things that look like Hitler."

...What do the designers of such a site tell their parents when asked about their work?

There's also an entire website of cats that look like Hitler.

Noclevername
2013-May-31, 04:37 PM
There's also an entire website of cats that look like Hitler.

Well, of course. You can't have an Internet without its two most featured memes intersecting-- Cat pics and Godwin.

KaiYeves
2013-May-31, 09:41 PM
The article says there's "a Tumblr site that specialises in finding things that look like Hitler."

...What do the designers of such a site tell their parents when asked about their work?
It's very easy to set up a Tumblr blog and most of them are run by people in their spare time, so it's probably not their work.

Strange
2013-Jul-09, 09:16 PM
More fun examples of geographic pareidolia, including the use of a computer algorithm to search for them: http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/613-faces-of-earth-a-mapping-contest-between-man-and-machine

publiusr
2013-Jul-13, 05:09 PM
This was one of my favs
http://doktors.com/thattotallylookslike/images/rsgallery/display/three-bird-smiley-face.jpg.jpg

NEOWatcher
2014-May-07, 04:52 PM
Ran across this today:

It's Normal to See Jesus in Your Toast (http://www.newser.com/story/186452/its-normal-to-see-jesus-in-your-toast.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=united&utm_campaign=rss_lifestyle)


“Our findings suggest that it's common for people to see non-existent features because human brains are uniquely wired to recognize faces,”

This is new?
Haven't we been seeing variations on this theme for over a hundred years since Rorschach started studying it?

jokergirl
2014-May-07, 10:41 PM
I found this cute little app the other day: http://iobound.com/pareidoloop/
It uses face recognition software to generate face-like patterns from random polygons. Let it run in the background for a few hours and see what it spits out.

;)

Van Rijn
2014-May-07, 11:57 PM
Ran across this today:

It's Normal to See Jesus in Your Toast (http://www.newser.com/story/186452/its-normal-to-see-jesus-in-your-toast.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=united&utm_campaign=rss_lifestyle)



This is new?
Haven't we been seeing variations on this theme for over a hundred years since Rorschach started studying it?

Actually, that looks like an interesting article. It does have some new information (at least new to me) about how this works in the brain. It isn't an artifact of image processing itself (like false positives from a general face recognition process), or an interpretation after image processing, but rather the visual cortex is being told what it supposed to be seeing:


Lee and his colleagues showed participants random pixelated images that were simply "noise," Lee says, but 35% of subjects spotted faces or letters when researchers told them such images were there. The researchers used MRI technology to monitor the brain activity of the subjects and determined that the frontal cortex, where expectations are generated, sent signals to the posterior visual cortex, which processes the images a person sees.

In other words, as Lee puts it, "believing is seeing," and we see what we expect to see. "What we have shown is that a lot of what we see and perceive is actually determined by biases that already exist in our brains" before our brains process an image we're seeing, he explains to CBC. That's why, while some people see Jesus on their sandwich, others might see Buddha. The phenomenon, known as face pareidolia, has been known for centuries.

So this starts very early in visual processing. This makes a lot of sense looking back at some of the UFO or Mars picture debates. Of course we know about the people that are adamant that, for instance, a Mars rock is an alien, but now we have a better idea of why. They *really are* seeing an alien. That's not something that's going to easily be swayed by a technical argument.

Noclevername
2014-May-08, 04:01 AM
It's very easy to set up a Tumblr blog and most of them are run by people in their spare time, so it's probably not their work.

"It's OK mom, those Hitler pics are just my hobby."

John Mendenhall
2014-May-08, 04:42 AM
Actually, that looks like an interesting article. It does have some new information (at least new to me) about how this works in the brain. It isn't an artifact of image processing itself (like false positives from a general face recognition process), or an interpretation after image processing, but rather the visual cortex is being told what it supposed to be seeing:



So this starts very early in visual processing. This makes a lot of sense looking back at some of the UFO or Mars picture debates. Of course we know about the people that are adamant that, for instance, a Mars rock is an alien, but now we have a better idea of why. They *really are* seeing an alien. That's not something that's going to easily be swayed by a technical argument.

Well, that explains why people keep seeing the invisible elf!

Barabino
2014-May-08, 04:38 PM
["I always wonder why people know so well how Jesus really looked like."]

My understanding is that (Western) people generally base their idea of his image on what European painters painted in the centuries after his existence (with no photos to go by).

Based on his actual race and location, he is likely to have looked very different to what was painted.

Which begs two questions:
1. Where are all his real images? (The wrong branch was cut?)
2. Who is this other guy they keep seeing?

Cheers,

Somebody suspects the bearded 33-years old guy is based on the Zeus's statue in Athens... (Alan Coates Bouquet, Short History of Religions, 1976)

In some early roman pictures (made decades after his death anyway), Jesus was beardless and with curly hair...

NEOWatcher
2014-May-08, 05:10 PM
In some early roman pictures (made decades after his death anyway), Jesus was beardless and with curly hair...
You made me curious, so I looked it up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depiction_of_Jesus).
It seems to me that the good shepherd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Shepherd) is one of the earliest. Bearded in picture but not in sculpture.

That description from the book of revelation sure sounds different. Especially the sword coming out of his mouth.

But; being that everything needs to be updated to keep the younger generation interested, we might as well accept this vision (http://hyperallergic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/beastjesus640.jpg).

Barabino
2014-May-08, 06:49 PM
Yes the beardless Jesus was the good shepherd actually :-/

it was intended as an allegory of Jesus, not as a realistic depiction of the person named Jesus...