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Maquar
2003-Dec-07, 07:17 AM
Hi there..I'm very new to the world of telescopes and was wondering if anyone here can help me out with some advice. I'm looking to buy a telescope as a christmas present. (A present I will be using as well) but i'm really not sure on which one to buy. I've done some research and according to what I've read.. the bigger the better...So I narrowed it down some. I'm not looking to spend alot of money as I am just getting started. I've looked around the internet and there seem to be some very good deals but I'd like your opinion. The ones I am interested in as of now are at the URL's below:

My first option (http://www.visiongear.com/navigator2.asp?productId=31)

Also on the same site is this one:

My second option (http://www.visiongear.com/navigator2.asp?productId=470)


If anyone can help me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Mark Ritchie

Dave Mitsky
2003-Dec-07, 07:55 AM
Mark,

I know that you don't want to spend very much money but I can't recomend either of these telescopes. A 3" reflector is going to be very unsatisfying in the long run and may even kill your interest in observational astronomy. The H (Huygenian) and SR (Symmetrical Ramsden) eyepieces that come with both models are two of the oldest, simplest, and poorest performing designs available. The flimsy mounts will leave much to be desired as well. The 24mm finder scopes won't be of much use for finding anything other than the very brightest of celestial objects. You'll have to spend more than that for any semblance of performance. If that's not an option a binocular is a far better investment.

I suggest minimum apertures of 4.5" for a reflector and 80mm for a refractor. (Better yet is a 6" reflector or a 4" refractor.) Even though it may look like a toy the $169 Orion Starblast functions quite well and received a favorable review in the January 2004 issue of Astronomy. It's the least expensive option for beginners, IMHO. See http://www.telescope.com/jump.jsp?itemID=4...erID=287&KICKER (http://www.telescope.com/jump.jsp?itemID=4644&itemType=PRODUCT&path=1%2C2%2C4%2C8&KickerID=287&KICKER)

Here are some FAQs worth reading on purchasing a telescope:

http://www.perkins-observatory.org/FAQ.index.html

http://www.ct-astronomer.com/telescope_faq.htm

http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org/buyers.htm

Dave Mitsky

Maquar
2003-Dec-07, 10:34 AM
Thank you very much for your input and a very fast response. I'm not sure if I will ever get into using telescopes in an "extreme" manner. I just need something that can see the moon well...along with some other planets hopefully. I'm sure a lot of the time it will be for the kids. I'm assuming these are good enough to see the moon pretty well. Of the 2 telescopes can you tell me which one is better and why? (even though I know they are very low end telescopes but there has to be something on one that is better then the other).

I only picked these because they were the cheapest "bigger telescopes" I have found on the internet. All the other "bigger scopes" I found were $150 plus. Unfortunately at this time I cannot afford the extra money to by the StarBlast™ Astro Telescope you recommended. If you can recommend any others that are cheaper, I'm certainly open to any suggestions I can get here.

Your help is very much appreciated as I need to order one soon so I get it in time for Chritmas.

Thanks again,
Mark Ritchie

Dave Mitsky
2003-Dec-07, 03:43 PM
It is possible that both telescopes were made in the same Chinese factory. Look how closely they resemble each other. However, the first reflector (despite its being classified as a refractor <g>) may be the better choice since it includes 1.25" eyepieces (read between the lines in the second ad), which are generally better than the tiny 0.965" ones that come with many cheap telescopes. However, the 4mm eyepiece supplied will be essentially worthless.

Dave Mitsky

Littlemews
2003-Dec-08, 08:16 AM
Try to visist www.hsn.com (http://www.hsn.com) and search Telescope....they got the newest Galileo telescope


Galileo 1000mmmx118mm Reflector Telescope
HSN Price: &#036;197.85

or

Galileo 1000mmmx118mm Reflector Telescope
HSN Price: &#036;197.85

or

Galileo 800mm x 3.2 New Age Reflector Telescope
HSN Price: &#036;108.85


Its cheaper and good for christmas ^^

DippyHippy
2003-Dec-09, 12:13 AM
I still very much like the SkyQuest 4.5" XT Orion reflector we got for my future stepson... it came very highly recommened :)

It cost &#036;200 and it was worth every penny. Go to Orion&#39;s site (http://www.telescope.com) for more info :)

Maquar
2003-Dec-09, 07:00 AM
Okay you guys talked me into spending a "little" more..but not much. ;)

Which of these are better?

Choice #1 (http://www.hsn.com/cnt/prod/default.aspx?webp_id=1244862&web_id=1244862&sz=0&sf=&dept=&cat=&subcat=&gs=&attr=)

or:

Choice #2 (http://www.hsn.com/cnt/prod/default.aspx?pfid=176918&club_id=176918&sz=&sf=&rdr=1)

You guys are a huge help...I need to order tomorrow as its getting too close to Christmas..lol&#33;

Thanks,
Mark Ritchie

Maquar
2003-Dec-10, 03:08 AM
Well..I went with Choice #1 (http://www.hsn.com/cnt/prod/default.aspx?webp_id=1244862&web_id=1244862&sz=0&sf=&dept=&cat=&subcat=&gs=&attr=).

Now knowing my luck someone will come along and say I chose the wrong one :o

Thank you all very much for your input and help&#33;

Mark Ritchie

DippyHippy
2003-Dec-10, 03:54 AM
I don&#39;t know what Galileo scopes are like, I haven&#39;t heard of them... but that doesn&#39;t mean they&#39;re no good LOL

Besides, I&#39;ve always said that as long as you enjoy it and you feel you&#39;ve got your money&#39;s worth, then it doesn&#39;t matter what anyone else thinks&#33;

Enjoy&#33; :)

kashi
2003-Dec-10, 09:20 AM
what about MY decision. http://www.universetoday.com/forum/index.p...?showtopic=1394 (http://www.universetoday.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1394)

me me me me me

memo
2003-Dec-10, 10:23 PM
Hi The answers everone gave was correct,but your choice was wrong.1The mount is to shaky2 the optics you will recieve is low grade.3The adjustment is so flimsy you will have ahard time focusing.4Cheap material.Now do not be in ahurry remember you may not like astro because.Maybe you would like it now the scope is behind you and you have to purchase anoyher one.The guide i use.study first join a local club they are really fun and the people are great.Be careful do not make the scope so heavy ,you will start making excuses not drag it out. Half of the fun is in the research. Try sky router,arksky,shallow sky,astro archive also try astronomy mall .orion is a good outfit,good quality reasonable price. Leave me a message if you want. DO NOT TOUCH THE LENES.