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2003-Jul-17, 03:07 AM
Hi all,
Nice board Fraser. When we were talking about message boards a couple of weeks back you said that you planned to start one some day. Looks like you bit the bullet. I like the smilies! :blink: :P

We need as many good space and astronomy discussion boards on the net as possible. People are increasingly turning away from science in droves. Enthusiasm amongst youngsters has hit an all time low. Those choosing to study astronomy and physics are insufficient to keep up with the demand for such skills as older already accomplished people retire and leave a void. Amateur rocketry in the U.S. and other countries is facing tougher legislation and that was a major generator of interest in rocket science. The space program needs an infusion of funding to give would be astronauts some inkling of hope for the future.

To help revitalise public interest and cure political disinterest the professionals who do know what it's like to work in a specialised scientific field can share their knowledge on a board such as this. Helping keep the dream alive for those budding young engineers, scientists and astronauts who are unsure of their direction in life. I have a feeling this board will be a great success.

My name is Carl Williams and I'm the sysop for SpaceDaily.com's new message board. Started a few weeks back but only promoted at the main website today for the very first time. I live in Sydney Australia and build model rockets in my spare time. I like to look at other planets through my home made reflector telescope. I'm obsessed with space and life and the possibility of 'space life'. I'm thinking about joining SETI@home soon and might be starting my own amateur rocket society for rocketeers to test their engines safely at a registered range.

I have been a regular visitor to UniverseToday for several years now. What impresses me most about Frasers website is its unbiased news gathering and his freindly attitude towards other space news websites. Not only does he get on well with the owners but he actively promotes their sites at his comprehensive directory. I'll be trying to emulate his mature attitude towards other space enthusiasts at my own forums.

We space fanatics are not many in number and those select places on the net which choose to concentrate around this extremely specialised area should learn to get along and not see one another as merely competition. Feel free to visit my own board and promote this new forum anytime Fraser. Any suggestions for improvements to my own board you might like to offer would be equally welcome. I like the format of this board and its sufficiently different from my own to warrant special mention when the forum directory is activated. Right now I'm just fielding visitors for suggestions on favorite websites relevant to each forum.

Take care,
Carl Williams

2003-Jul-17, 03:18 AM
Yeah, I did bite the bullet. :-)

And please, give Carl's message board a visit. And if you haven't already, check out Space Daily. It's more of an aerospace news site, but Simon somehow knows all the news out there. It's awe inspiring.

2003-Jul-17, 02:38 PM
:D Hi everyone,

My name is Stephanie Sanderson. I live in Ontario Canada, but Im a home grown Flroida girl whose fingers failed spelling!! (jus kiddin with the flroida, its actually spelled Flordia :P

I am a 36 year old beginner to space and im loaded with lots of questions!

I love the links provided as any info is good info. Although Universe Today is the #1 site (I'm suckin up here fraser)

I am married with 3 children, one is a rottweiler, one is a rottie/shep mix and one is a Lhasa Apso!

I just want to say welcome to all and thanks. I enjoy havin my coffee with all of you!

2003-Jul-17, 06:35 PM
Well... hi there, fanatics!

I'm Richard Pea, from the boiling state of California... boiling from heat and from politics in general...

I live within the belly of the valley here in Sacramento, and have been enthused about space forever... being that I'm 28 now, i will be enthused for a very long time henceforth!!

I enjoy this website & forum immensely, mainly becuz of its ease of use, and the email notification you can recieve to let you know the newest goodies & when others have replied... just perfect to a good morning's wake up.. stimulating the mind with new and fresh ideas and thoughts from others around the world...

yea!! there are others who care as much as i do about places other than here...

Good job on the selected info you display, Fraser!!

I hope to see many more join this forum, and hope that one day, other forums could come together to form a webring of space related forums..... expand.... expand... and expand.... just like the good ol' glory above us =)

I look forward to hearing from not only educated enthusiasts, but from the newbies who see more than just lights twinkling above them.. but the extension of our own personas as we gaze into the history of our life cycle...

'til next time!

. ..-={Arramon}=-.. .

Bill AH
2003-Jul-17, 08:17 PM
Hey Fraser, Great site! I've been with you for a long time and enjoy the emails. They're short and to the point with a link if one wants more. This suits me fine because I don't always have the time for a long read, but enjoy it when I do.

My name is Bill and I live in Titusville, Florida so I get to see a lot of rocket launches. In fact, if it's still on, I'm waiting anxiously for the Atlas 5 launch tonight.

This forum is a wonderful idea and I'm looking forward to participating often as I can. This is a great way to hear from other space buffs and those that have space related web sites themselves.

Talk to y'all soon!

Kevin Milburn
2003-Jul-18, 12:09 AM

My name is Kevin Milburn, I'm a 40something paralegal living in Toronto, Ontario and I'm married and have a 7 year old daughter (who's also an avid sky watcher)....

Fraser's forums are a great addition to a great web site. they are very informative and stimulating...

I'm a long time space nut (from the very first GI Joe Astronaut as a child to my first of many issues of Sky & Telescope as an adult)...

From what I've read so far, I think I'll be checking in here on a regular basis...

Thanks Fraser

I took you're advice and checked out Carl's Spacedaily.com - what an excellent web site with loads of interesting articles...

2003-Jul-18, 07:03 AM
Hi Everyone! My name is Mike Brayton and I am from northern Michigan. I am 31 and have been absolutley loving this website for quite awhile! And Fraiser, I just want to add my thanx for all the time and effort you put into the webpage and now this forum!! I appreciate it so much!

2003-Jul-18, 10:57 AM
Hi! My name's Nathan Mayer and I come from and live in London, England. I'm probably one of the younger people here at 16. I use this website to get all the news from around the world and I'd like to thank Frasier for creating such a brilliiant website :D

2003-Jul-18, 07:19 PM
My name is Michael, 33Male.
I am an electrician in the US midwest.

I have been an ametuer astronomer since I was shorter than a minute. I was lucky to have a dad that could accurately answer all my questions about space and science.

I wish I would have become an astronomer, but when I was a teen, I thought there was nothing major left to learn about the universe.

This newsletter proves me wrong every weekday! O, I wish the internet was around twenty years ago!

2003-Jul-18, 07:23 PM
I am Michael -- I forgot to log in! :unsure:

2003-Jul-18, 08:39 PM
Thanks Michael. It's never too late to get involved in space and astronomy. I'd always wanted to be an astronomer too, but for some reason I took engineering at university because I thought it would be more practical.

I began retuning my career back in 1999 (when I was 28), with Universe Today being my first step, and I'm still at it.

An astronomy degree would only take a few years, and there are all kinds of ways that amateurs can contribute to the field of astronomy. If that's your passion, make it happen.

Martha Herrera
2003-Jul-18, 10:26 PM
Hi everybody

My name is Martha Herrera. I'm from Cartago. Colombia.
I'm a Teacher in a Public High School, I teach my classes
using the Fraser's web site to my students, in two ways,first
as an English lesson second to create some interests to
the astronomy science. But personally I love to search
about the space, mars and a very interesting moon, like Io. :o

Thanks you,Frazer for the Forum and for Universetoday

2003-Jul-18, 10:29 PM
Hi everyone,
I'm a new member. Just kind of checkin stuff out still... but looks really cool so far. I hope to get in on some indepth discussions with some of ya's soon!

2003-Jul-19, 11:58 AM
Hello to ALL !

"Great Site Frazer"

I look forward to contributing to your forum.

Two (2) Thumbs Up!

Here is my Background:
Click Here (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?cmd=view_feedback&id=50389)

2003-Jul-20, 01:39 PM
Hi all,

My name is Ed Samplonius, I'm thirtysomething, and I currently live in Winnipeg, Manitoba. I am an extreme amatuer to astronomy and so, after stumbling in to the Universe Today site one day, I had to subscribe. Gives me all sorts of news bits and interesting links right to my inbox. So, thank you Fraser!

I've been a Seti@home member since 2001, and if I hadn't of lost my first account I would have had credit for chuggin' out almost 1000 work units but, alas.... I don't have much of a profile done but, if you want to check it out click here (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/user_profile/individuals/31676.html).

2003-Jul-21, 10:07 PM
Hi from Nancy Atkinson. I currently live near Springfield, IL, but have lived most of my life in Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota. I'm a free-lance writer (guess what I write about?!!) and also teach classes to young people about space exploration.

I've enjoyed Universe Today for the past couple of months (thank you, Fraser!), and have really enjoyed the forums. Since our move, I haven't had many people to talk space with, (I used to work at a science museum), so this has been great.
Keep talkin' everyone!

I just had some articles published about the Mars Exploration Rovers, if anyone would like to read them:



2003-Jul-23, 01:31 PM
Hi all;
My name is Erin, I currently reside in Toronto, ON - but soon to move back up to Ottawa, ON >>> 20-something Aero. Eng. and active Mars Society of Canada (MSC) spokeswoman ....
Some of you may have seen Fraser's post in the Space Robotics Forum about the MSC petition to save our contribution to the 2009 Mar Science Laboratory Mission --and Philip's reply to it - Thank you much guys.

Look for updates on the petition and new ideas in that forum ---> also I am curious what other members of this forum, who seem to be well spoken on these issues, think about the intrinsic unbalance in the Canadian government's support of basic research vs. other countries around the world.

Check out the MSC site and the petition www.marssociety.ca ---> This is a call to all the Canadians to make themselves heard. We cannot miss this opportunity.

Talk to you all soon~

2003-Jul-23, 04:34 PM
Welcome to the Universe Today forums smallfri. :-)

Visit their site and if you're Canadian, sign the petition and then get everyone you know to do it. Now!

2003-Jul-24, 02:08 AM
Hi all! I'm Beth P. I'm a 30-something stay-at-home mom/wife with two daughters (and one hubby :D ) and I live in Mid-Missouri. My love of astronomy and spaceflight is only on the hobby level, and the technical stuff is waaay over my head, but I love reading about this stuff anyway. I've been getting Fraser's e-mail newsletters for at least four years now...I can't even remember how I first found out about Universe Today! And I'm trying to do my part by doing all I can to get my girls interested in those beautiful twinkly lights in the night sky! :lol:

2003-Jul-24, 02:07 PM

Hola a todos! (Hi everyone!)

My name is Antonio, was born and raised in Mexico, now live in Milwaukee, WI.
I am 36 years old and work as engineer for a well-known motorcycle manufacturer.
I have been watching at the sky since I was 8 yrs old, do not think I will ever be tired of doing it !. I just love anything that has to do with astronomy.
I am also interested in mathematical models that describe how the universe works (in theory, anyway), and space travel. So, I am looking forward to having some discussions with people interested in the same topics.
I believe that some day, we, the human race, will evolve and realize that there is no need for setting boundaries, neither in the earth nor in the universe.

Great Website Fraser!


2003-Jul-24, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Antonio@Jul 24 2003, 02:07 PM

Hola a todos! (Hi everyone!)

My name is Antonio, was born and raised in Mexico, now live in Milwaukee, WI.
I am 36 years old and work as engineer for a well-known motorcycle manufacturer.
I have been watching at the sky since I was 8 yrs old, do not think I will ever be tired of doing it !. I just love anything that has to do with astronomy.
I am also interested in mathematical models that describe how the universe works (in theory, anyway), and space travel. So, I am looking forward to having some discussions with people interested in the same topics.
I believe that some day, we, the human race, will evolve and realize that there is no need for setting boundaries, neither in the earth nor in the universe.

Great Website Fraser!


by the way mi user name is bknight63 ! :)

2003-Jul-24, 05:04 PM
I couldn't help but grow up interested in space. My father, stuck with us 3 girls, must've given up on waiting for a boy to show his interests to- he worked for the Navy inspecting radar and took us on site tours. My sister worked for North American Rockwell, where the Apollo capsules were made, and got to see them after splashdown (charbroiled to well-done). I spent many nights in the wee hours awaiting Apollo launches, and one of my favorite places to go in L.A. where I lived was the Griffith Park Observatory. Now I live in rural Tennessee, and every night the sky is chockful of stars, still an incredible sight after growing up lucky to see 3 stars overhead at night. I really enjoy the astronomy updates from the Universe Today, and am looking forward to the discussions with this group.

2003-Jul-24, 05:25 PM
Welcome to the Universe Today forums Alflover!

It sounds like you've got some great skies for astronomy.

2003-Jul-25, 03:33 AM
Hey everyone

My name's Richard, I was born and still live in Luton, England but I'm hoping to emigrate to the US (Arizona) next year. I've had a fascination with the stars and planets ever since Xmas Eve 1977 when I was 6! I own a 6" Newtonian reflector but due to my location I don't get to use it much... too many clouds and too much light pollution. Next year though... look out Arizona!!


2003-Jul-25, 05:23 AM
Hey, we're the same age Richard.

Evil Steve
2003-Jul-25, 10:17 AM

Opunake (small town boy originaly)
New Zealand

25 and a draftsperson in the big city (New Plymouth, not even a big city in NZ). Love space esp the science, phisics stuff (but not the equations ;) ). Looks like I'll be one of the younger members of this forum hope you won't hold that against me :P .

Spose I'd better get posting then.


2003-Jul-26, 08:29 AM
Hi all,
Name: Ernst. I am from Middelburg, a small town in sunny South Africa. Used to farm for 14 years, then bought a "Starlab" planetarium. Had the time of my life with it for 5 years (astronomy presentations at schools) Currently owner / manager of a stationery and computer store.
Great site! Keep up the good work!

Sid Wilson
2003-Jul-26, 11:37 AM
Hi Frazer
I feel like I've known you for years. My names Sid and I live in Wales UK. I've enjoyed your newsletters for years now and have your links posted on my website. The links that update automatically. I think the website (yours) is great and have recommended it to all my friends. Please carry on with the good work. My best to your wife and the little one.

Sid Wilson :rolleyes:

2003-Aug-01, 08:00 PM
:D Hello everyone,
My name is John Cave and I'm from Liverpool in the U.K.
I'm 42 years ancient and I've been an astronomer for 26 years. I am now studying astronomy by distance learning and enjoying every minute. I do not know if it is advisable to put an email address on the site but if anyone wants to talk astronomy my email is johncave2@activemail.co.uk,
Hope to hear from you soon
Happy observing jsc248!!

2003-Aug-11, 06:46 PM

My name is Byron. I am 40 something, married with 2 children. One of which just graduated from college.
I work for a radio eletronics component factory in the central part of the United States.

As a boy, my parents once gave me a little record player which showed slides. It had the usual cute children stories, but it also had one called 'The Sun's Family'.
Ever since, I could never get enough of the planets. I read encycopedias, magizines, and nearly every book at school and in my local liberary about the planets.

A couple years back, I constructed a model of the Solar System using very stiff wire up to 12 feet long, styrofoam balls of various sizes, stick pins with colored heads of different sizes, and small cotton pomm pomms. I took it to work and put it together above my work station where my boss told me I'm obsessed.

I am currently working on two sci-fi novels involving space travel in the future.

I came accross Universe Today some 4 or 5 years ago while doing an internet search on exo-planets.
At the time I was also subscribed to So Ho, Spaceflight Now, and Cosmiverse, and eventually dropped them all after I began receiving Universe Today. I've yet to find a match for Frasier's site, but will concede I'm not looking too hard either.

This forum is his best work yet. Now the stories we read can be discussed among those of us who enjoy Frazer's coverage of space news.

I can't think of much else right now, which is unusual since I tend to be long winded, except I now enjoy the discussions with you folks as much as I have always enjoyed reading Universe Today.

2003-Aug-11, 08:57 PM

My name is Tina Andeson and I am from a small town near San Antonio, Texas USA. I have two children and I teach Spec. Ed. at the local high school. I have recently returned to college for a second degree. I needed an elective and took intro to astonomy. My star watching had its humble beginnings in the early seventies sitting in the back of a pick-up picking out constellations from a 10 yr old encyclopedia. Thirty years later I finally get to look through the telescope at the Scobee Planetarium, in San Antonio, and see Saturn in all its glory. WOW! I am a Trekkie and spend my spare time reading Sci-fi books.

If you can take an introductory astonomy class, do it. I took my class via the internet. Check your community colleges in your area. It is great.

2003-Aug-12, 01:56 AM
I just read the introduce yourself forum and, as a new registrant, thought I would say hello. I guess that I am quite a bit older than most of the people who have introduced themselves but I believe that I share there appreciation in your web site and the subject of astronomy. As a matter of fact, my wife and I just completed auditing an introductory Astronomy course at a local college. Well, here's to the future. Earl

2003-Aug-12, 03:10 AM
Hi Everybody, I am an ordinary retireee here in Tampa Florida who has actually worked on the Apollo project back in the 60's. Then the project was exciting but now it all seems like day old oatmeal. Even then, the Apollo project had it's critics with the throwaway technology and the exorbitant management fees (close to 40% of the total cost). I want humanity to get back into space in a big way but it is going to take a disaster like a meteor strike of sizeable proportions to initiate it (assuming there are enough survivors) It just can't be done because it is the right thing to do or for national goals or if its necessary to keep apace of any other political system. The big problem is and remains money ....... period......

I would like to participate in that 250 year project by suggesting that at the outset, we set out to EXPLORE THE WHOLE GALAXY and then develop the technology to do just that. That means A.I. , nanotech, robots and power sources that last for 50,000 years
if we cannot break the Light Speed Barrier. We send out a minimum of 10 to 100 robot & self replicating probes to each star so that at their destination years later, they
can rebuild and refurbish themselves for the next jump to the next star. All the while
they report back on the density and compostion of the galaxy while exploring the system they are in at present. They may even carry DNA (Ours) to seed almost lifeless worlds that have not as yet evolved much past primitive cells. There is so much to discuss and invent (and not wishful thinking) that will be required so let's try
by beginning the dialoge now. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: javascript:emoticon(':rolleyes:')

2003-Aug-13, 06:02 AM
Like Andy2020, I worked on the Apollo Program also, the pyro for Saturn V and for the Command module and docking ring.

I still am an aerospace engineer, the VP of a Florida Aerospace Propulsion Company, just can't seem to get the rocket propellant out of my blood!

I am an advocate of alternative propulsion; I firmly believe that the next real advance in "relocation: will come from the "crackpot fringe".

I am also very involved in Civil Experimental Aerospace and led a team in the CATS Prize.

Yes, the Shuttle program seems routine and not so fervently supported as Apollo was.

I enjoy these forums a great deal and especially the lively yet restrained nature (flaming is very rare), and thank Fraser for making them possible.

2003-Aug-13, 03:18 PM
Andy 2020 and Rocketa !

Aloha ! this is Sky-High speaking. As the French are saying, "chapeau bas !" Should I wear a hat, I'd take it out to you both. You REALLY worked for Apollo program ? I'd be damned ! Actually I am. Damned I mean. To look at what you do from afar. Stopped by being born on the wrong side of the space-research blanket. At least, I tried. I followed my eyes and ignored the stomach, mine and especially other's, till in the end I got it: despite 2 Masters and 1 PhD in three separate fields (from which one is Aerospace Medicine) I'm still a stinky foreigner, not to be approached nor accepted in Space Research. So, while I was dreaming and trying to learn much as I could about Space and especially humans in Space, you were actually building the rockets !

Wow !

My unreserved and unbriddled admiration ! Should you have a suggestion about some intelligence left at NASA or Wyle Labs or other Space involved sites, that would be willing to give a guy a break and at least test him before rejecting him, I'll buy you a beer !

Say Rocketa,Andy, for the Saturn thing, did you worked directly with von Braun ?


2003-Aug-13, 04:53 PM
Welcome, welcome all.

2003-Aug-13, 05:36 PM
Hey my name is Sam, i'm a 19 year old girl from London, England. I've been interested in space since i first was told about it when i was about 5. Unfortunately i didn't know anyone else with the same interest, and so found out most of my info from books and magasines i bought, but it wasnt much. Finally i have the chance to be taught about it! As i'm currently taking a degree in astrophysics at the university of sussex, it's been amazing so far! Suddenly i hav loadsa info at my fingertips from universe today and uni, it's really cool. I just wanna learn more! Maths is getting harder all the time, but it's cool cos it helps explain things better than words for me...(I'm not gd at english lol) I just think astronomy/physics is so interesting! I can't wait till i start doing research, and actually contributing to extending our knowledge about the universe! I just wish more ppl were told about it earlier on in school, cos i've had some really gd conversations with ppl doing completely different degrees, who didnt know about astronomy at all, and are really interested in it. In fact i didnt even know they did degrees in it until i searched long and hard on the internet.
Getting a bit long winded now, i know...
So thanx for the site, it's really easy to get all the info i want,
Sam :D

2003-Aug-15, 10:44 PM
Hello, my name is Wendell. I live in a small town out in the middle of Eastern Oregon (Burns, Oregon). I'm a former Marine MP and Beirut Vet (1983), now a licensed Nurse. My new job that I just started is with County Health as the Bioterrorism Preparedness Coordinator/Communicable Disease Investigator.

Anyway, I found this site a couple of weeks ago and I love it.

Thanks Frazer

2003-Aug-18, 08:52 PM
Hi everybody, nice to be here

Listen, how about us Space Addicts have a real chat, in real time? Not such a bad ideea, I bet. Or is this site offering one and I don't know how to get there ?

No offense intended, this site and the initiative is nice, only the real-time conversation speed is getting on my nerves. With the message today and the reply next week, looks like a conversation with someone living on Halley's comet, when the thing is at apogee. Like Mark Twain for instance since he kept claiming he was brought (and taken away) by the famous comet... : :D

If it can't be done, just please indicate any serious Space Chat site. And fort the love of Mike, i DON'T mean SF !

2003-Aug-18, 08:59 PM
Hmmm.... how bout it Frase? A chat applet of some type?
that would be nice =)
There are some good ones floating around here and there...
I would love to be able to voiice in real-time also!

. ..-={A}=-.. .

Polly V
2003-Aug-20, 12:48 AM
Hi all, I live in Northern California along the edge of San Francisco Bay. Needless to say, I can&#39;t see as much of the sky as I would like. I&#39;ve been a stargazer all my life, and have recently acquired a small telescope. I&#39;m not very good with it yet but hope to get some practice with Mars if the fog will cooperate. <_<

2003-Aug-20, 02:47 AM
Hi Folks,

You gotta love the universe today...no hype ,no commercialism.

Anyone live in NorCal?

Say hi..Play some chess...or come to Santa Cruz for some good music&#33;


PS...How &#39;Bout those Martians???

2003-Aug-20, 03:03 AM
Welcome Polly V and abstract. There&#39;s some commercialism here, I&#39;m trying to sell you some space. I&#39;ve got a planet you can buy real cheap. :-)

I like the chat idea Arramon, I think I&#39;ll do something like that so that we can have expert guests come and answer people&#39;s questions about space and astronomy. I&#39;m not sure I want just a regular chat tool - it&#39;s a little too uncontrollable. We have a lot of kids visit Universe Today, so I want to keep a fairly clean image. But, I&#39;m open to being convinced otherwise.

2003-Aug-20, 06:40 AM
Hi Fraser:

I am not new to Universe Today, but am new to this forum and am enjoying it. Thanks for getting it together for us Fraser&#33; This is a great place for all of us to sing our own praises, tell our stories, ask our questions, and to share with other our love of the universe.

My name is Patty Mayer and I live in Fort Pierce, Florida, just a bit south of Cape Canaveral on the east coast of Florida. I am a 40something ish (older than just 40ish) single Mom with 5 children to my credit&#33; My most recent joy is my 19 year old daughter who chose to enlist in the US Navy, I want to see the stars she will see on that ship&#33; I am a paralegal for a local family law attorney and love my job. I organize paralegal seminars, luncheons and fund raisers when and where needed.

I am the Secretary for the Treasure Coast Astronomical Society and a member of the Vero Beach Astronomical Society. With TCAS, I coordinate the public outreach programs and when I see the need for a new one, I develop it, or at least try to. I organize the area&#39;s annual Astronomy Day and work closely with Hallstrom Planetarium at Indian River Community College (http://www.ircc.edu).

For the first time this year, I am coordinating with the Girl Scouts to help the girls earn the astronomy badges in each age group. I work with some of the teachers in the local schools to get telescopes in the classroom so the children can see what they are learning about. It is the oooooo&#39;s, ahhhhhs and How cool responses that keep me coming back&#33; Another first this year is working with the county to create some viewing programs for a particular protected dark site west of town. There will be 4 nights during the next year with different focuses to draw the public out to view. Once I get the programs in place, I put a call out to the club members and they are so WONDERFUL and come out willingly to share their scopes, knowledge and passion with any who wish to view. -My kids tell me staying busy keeps me out of trouble and it seems to be working- :P

I have had a love for the sky, day or night, for many years. My first tool for viewing were my binoculars (hubby got custody of the bins) and then moved onto telescopes. Joyfully for me, I now own 2, but want just one more. Yes, bigger&#33; It is a personally hobby and my passion but I have a desire to share as much of it as I can, with the hope that someday a seed will be planted in the next Carl Sagan or Stephen Hawking mind to put them on the road to discovery&#33;

I better say good night now or this may go on&#33; Who said I was singing my praises&#33; :rolleyes:


2003-Aug-20, 06:55 AM
What a pity...Puah...

2003-Aug-20, 06:59 AM
A mistake. The last mens is to spaceguy

2003-Aug-20, 10:09 PM
Our Project is having a Mars Party Saturday the 23rd at the Hollister Airport in front of Hangar 10 at 8 PM. I gave that info to Fraser awhile ago but it did not seem to get posted. You are welcome to visit. We will have some things for kids to do, have a 10" cassegrain, an 8" dobson and an 18 inch reflector for scopes; also a raffle for a star trek poster, a 3D mars poster and a nice Model Rocket Kit.

This is mainly in response to the two northern California persons looking for others in NCA.

Hollister is about 30 miles south of San Jose taking hwy 25 off of So101 just past Gilroy.

SORAC Project Leader

2003-Aug-21, 02:49 AM
Wha? I posted the info.

It&#39;s the first one on the California page.
http://www.universetoday.com/html/special/...california.html (http://www.universetoday.com/html/special/mars2003/usa-california.html)

Let me know if I messed something up there, you&#39;ve scared me.

2003-Aug-21, 10:11 AM
Hi there&#33;

I thought while you are all trying to catch the Mars I can introduce myself without notice :P

I&#39;m long time Space, Astronomy fun ... actually from when I was 12 or 13 years old.
Universe Today I read quite regularly but I can&#39;t recall the starting day :)

Oh yes, using this opportunity I would like to thank you Fraser for doing this for all of as.
Great job ... it must be really time consuming. Also ... Fraser let me congratulate on your
expecting child. I know what the wonderful thing is that Ultrasound:)) We are expecting
or boy in the end of November:))

What was I talking about ? oh yea introducing myself:)

I can say short - I do Astrophysics for my life. This is the point where I was afraid of ...
please do not send me all kind of questions, I&#39;m not a space guru yet:)) I&#39;ll try to participate
in the forum - time depending.

OK, that&#39;s about it.

Best regards to all of you.

2003-Aug-22, 05:35 AM
I am known as Locke. I am a student, and new at this forum. I have to say, I&#39;m impressed fraser&#33;


2003-Aug-22, 07:58 PM
:blink: Real-Radio
Helo all, my name is Jim and I am in Buffalo, New York. I currently work for the
State University of New York at Buffalo, as an Engineer (Electrical) in the Chemistry
Department. I have been interested in Astronomy since the age of 11, when I used
to lay out on the roof at night and search for constellations. Since that time I have
seen the stars from every continent, and moved into Amateur Radio Astronomy.
I currently own equipment that covers 1.6 Mhz to 5.6 Ghz with a capability of
listening to the music of the Stars. I have been doing this for 30+ years, and look
forward to helping others, who express an interest in wanting to do "This Weird
Stuff". I answer most questions, on topics I am familiar with, the others I go and
research and then answer, We have several really LARGE library groups on this
campus so fire away, and I will get back to you. Oh, yes Fraser congrats on the
new Boy on the way, and thanks for this great forum. I might also mention I am
an Amateur Radio Operator, from "DC to Light". Jim WB2FCNMy Webpage (http://eshop1.chem.buffalo.edu)

2003-Aug-22, 08:25 PM
Hello everyone&#33;
My name is Yvette, and I am a 17 year old Pennsylvanian who has been into astronomy for three to four years now. I plan to be a radio astronomer when I grow up and then join the astronaut corps later on. When you&#39;re a teenager you&#39;re allowed to dream, right? :) I&#39;ve been subscribing to Universe Today for over a year and have enjoyed every issue of it, and love the idea of a forum. Thanks a million Fraser&#33;
real-radio: nice to meet another ham here&#33; I&#39;m not into amateur radio as much as I&#39;d like since my rig leaves a lot to be desired. Instead I like to DX on AM and shortwave bands and see how far I can get a signal. I&#39;d like to fuse my love of astronomy and radio together, but so far it&#39;s been limited to checking out meteor scatter... that and studying the hydrogen line at the astronomy camp I went to earlier this year.
Well anyway, clear skies and later days&#33;
Yvette, KB3HTS

2003-Aug-23, 03:58 AM
Hey Group: Thought I&#39;d drop a line as an intro. I&#39;m George, and live out here in Arizona. I went to the meteor crater near Winslow, AZ recently. Must be what they look like on the moon. Also the skies are so dark out here you can see the Milky Way. I own a Meade 10" sct and recently purchased the Televue Binos. The sights from two eyes are impressive, but I only own a few double EPS I won&#39;t be throwing the old eyepatch away just yet. I haven&#39;t lived down here long but I don&#39;t miss that snow and freezing trying to change eps in the cold. So I&#39;ll be reading the posts and contribute if I feel I can-Clear Skies-George in AZ

2003-Aug-23, 10:50 AM
Hello everyone,

I am really young compared to most of you all (I am 15).
I have an intrest in astronomy since I was 5.In fact, the first non-cirriculum book I ever read was on astronomy&#33; And I have treid to have more than a passing interest in astronomy,but as I live in India, I really cannot stay in tune with the times.
I hope to be a proffesional astronomer in the future, but I will never ever leave this great site&#33;


2003-Aug-23, 12:12 PM
Hi All&#33;, I&#39;m Bob Derouin,I"ve been interested in Astronomy since 1972&#33;(Ok,Ok, so I&#39;m old,no wait,Experienced&#33;&#33;&#33;I can proudly say that I&#39;ve observed ALL nine planets,including comets and asteroids.I currently own a six inch refractor and a 5 inch mak-cass.I love them both&#33;&#33;&#33;I&#39;m learning all I can about digital camera astrophotography of the moon and planets,and if you&#39;d like,I&#39;ll send you some pretty poor shots of Mars taken recently&#33;&#33;&#33;

Rahul Patil
2003-Aug-23, 12:54 PM
Hi All,
I am Rahul Patil from Mumbai ,India.
Like to read this news letter. Very interesting one.
I am an Engineer & have a little interest in astronomy.
its nice to get the regular updates on space exploration .

Thanks Fraser...

2003-Aug-24, 09:32 AM
Hello everybody,

My name is Patrick and I presently live in the small city of Heerlen in The Netherlands after having lived in Canada for eighteen years.
The difference in how many stars you can see with the naked eye up in the great white north or in The Netherlands is amazing. In Canada the milky way is just incredible with the naked eye, in The Netherlands it is barely visible through light pollution.
I have been interested in astronomy and the universe itself and where we came from etc.
since I was a little kid.
I have taken several astronomy courses over the years, the more you get to know about the universe, the more you realise that the knowledge we have about it is so infinitessimally small...
Star gazing is one of my hobbies and Fraser&#39;s website is a favorite. The internet has really made the world in to a village with unlimited acces to whatever interests you.
This forum is a great idea and I will try to check it out regularly.

2003-Aug-24, 08:58 PM
Hi everyone. I&#39;m a 20 year old from Alberta, Canada. Great site, Fraser. I&#39;ve been into astronomy for a few years now. I&#39;m a student at University of Calgary, and I&#39;ve been a member of RASC (Royal Astronomical Society of Canada) for a few years now. I recommended a membership to all Canadians because you get to meet some intresting people who are intrerested in astronomy etc, and you also get a free subscription to Sky News, which is Canada&#39;s magazine for astronomy. Another good astronomical magazine is Sky and Telescope.
Bye for now.

2003-Aug-25, 05:54 AM

2003-Aug-25, 10:14 PM
Hi, everyone. My name is Harold from St. Bruno, Quebec, Canada.
I am 45 yrs old and an aircraft engine inspector. I love to go out at night when I can and observe deepsky objects galaxies, nebulas etc. I own a Orion XT10 dob, and now, that I got aperture fever I will be building a 16" truss tube dobsonian this winter. My wife Annie is the best co-pilot you can have as she knows the constellations, stars and stuff in the night sky which helps me alot finding things to look at. This past week-end I attended a Star Party called Starfest north of Toronto, Ontario and had a really great time&#33;&#33;&#33; Oh, ya can&#39;t forget the Queen of the house, Zoe, she&#39;s a 4 yr old Golden retriever who enjoys eating, air conditioned house, long hikes in the woods.
Well enough said, except glad this site exsists and again Hello to everyone out there.

P.S. how do put a picture under your name?

2003-Aug-26, 06:09 PM
Hello fellow enthusiast.,
I’m David, from Pearland Texas, just south of Houston. I’m forty-eight years old, with a beautiful wife, three children and a wonderful grandson. And every since I was a kid, and watched Captain Kirk kicking alien butts, I’ve been interested in space, Sci-Fi, and even UFO-ology. I’ve never owned a telescope. But now that the kids are gone and out of school, I finally made the plunge last Friday. Lucky for me I work with someone that belongs to the Houston Area Astronomical Society. And also lucky for me, this gentleman owned two very nice telescopes. Key word being “owned”. Because I bought his eight inch Meade reflector telescope. He kept his ten inch. I only wished I had done this years ago. It is truly amazing checking out the moon and Mars. With the Mar’s opposition occurring now, and the fact that my five year old grandson is showing a real interest in astronomy these days, I knew I had to make a purchase quick. And I did so with no regrets. Tomorrow I’m having several of my friends and family over for rib-eyed steaks and Mar’s watching. I’m REALLY looking forward to showing off my new telescope.

So here’s a big howdy from Texas, David

2003-Aug-27, 04:05 AM
My name is Sandy and I live at the South Jersey Shore.
I am a retired professional dog Handler also a breeder of Boxers and Pugs.
I&#39;m an avid birder. My main interest are, Raptors. This area is a mecca for migrating birds so, I&#39;m very fortunate.

I am a rank novice in this world but it&#39;s awesome&#33; Mars got me into this and I&#39;m grateful.
Have purchased several books. Turn Left at Orion, 365 Starry Nights,The Stars, by Rey(nice book great for the novice) and last but not least Night Watch.

Now I need a Telescope.... Any reasonable thoughts?

:o Sandy

2003-Aug-27, 10:54 AM
Hi all :)

My name is Mikael Kandell, im 40 years old and living in beautiful Philippine islands(because i married a sweet filipina 2 years ago :D )

Originally im from Finland..small country in nothern europe and i have been dreaming about space and space exploration since i read my 1st sci-fi novel
(i was 12 i think and it was Asimov&#39;s Foundation, still my favorite)

Space is my real interest in life..and my dream is to be part of space exploration someday soon( i know i can&#39;t be astronaut so i have to contribute other ways ;)

I like your website very much Fraser, and all like minded people here have ignited my passion for space again. thank you all.

Im not much of a writer so expect only short comments from me :P , but i will be reading all posts here, keep writing folks.

I have a Dream i want to share with like minded people, but that i will post later when i have enough courage to try a long post :D


2003-Aug-27, 02:39 PM

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2003-Aug-27, 03:38 PM
Hi everyone&#33; My name is Duane, I am from Calgary Alberta Canada and work in the insurance industry.

I&#39;m also 40 something, married with three children.

I have been interested in astronomy for as long as I can remember, probably starting with the moon landings when I was 9 years old.

I found Fraser&#39;s newsletter through internet trolling about 6 years ago & have been recieving his email news ever since.

I am becoming inspired to take some astronomy courses--I understand the U of Calgary has an excellent program.

2003-Sep-02, 08:52 AM
:D hai everyone.....thee name is SAILORMARS @ ERIC. GUESS WHAT...I came far away from MALAYSIA (ANYONE REMEMBER &#39;THE TALLEST BUILDING IN THE WORLD&#39; ?). Well.. i just sign up as a member here when i want to know about the Mars thingie..so i stuck here(kidding &#33;). Wel, bro. Fraser sure have my e mail change then (thanks ; ). Lots of information that iwant to know much about space and the mystery of it...EXTRA, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT...- MALAYSIA&#39;S NEWEST MICROSATELLITE, RazakSat is one to be launch somewhere around this month or next month. Just search on RAZAKSAT on any search engine to hear more. One suggestion please....could you find some news about Asian space scenery. It would be great to hear something on the other side of the world..

keep on boosting onto the neverending space,
SAILORMARS @ MOHD. FADZREEQ- ERIC:>zephyreric@yahoo.com

2003-Sep-04, 02:34 PM
Hi Everyone,

I am new here, but the information is great. I am just learning about astronomy and am taking a couple of course thru the Barnes & Noble University and find the sky so interesting. Someone in the course sent me here and I am sure glad. :D

2003-Sep-11, 07:09 AM
Welcome folks... get posting&#33;

2003-Sep-11, 05:57 PM
Hi people,

My name is Uli Shabani, i am a 23 year old student at York University in Toronto Canada. I am currently taking physics and am in my 3rd year. As u can tell, i like this kinda stuff ;) My main area of interst is theoretical physics, more along the lines of cosmology theories, but that doesn&#39;t stop me from trying to learn about other things.

I guess that&#39;s all i have to say for now.

I&#39;m glad to be here, and i have been on the mailing list for universe today for maybe 3 yrs now... good stuff, it keeps me up to date on news and keeps me thinking.

Hope to talk to you all soon, and perhaps post some replies on the forums.

gotta go back to classes&#33; <_<
oh well&#33;


2003-Sep-11, 09:12 PM
Hi everyone&#33;

Mi name is Ignacio, and I&#39;m a 24yo doctor from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

I was always awed by the night sky, but what really made me wonder about what is beyond our atmosphere were the visits to the local planetarium when I was a kid and, of course, sci-fi&#33;

Now I&#39;m studying to become a genetic investigator (I know, some distance between whole patients and DNA).

My interests (besides the topics mentioned above) include: music, cinema, tech and science in general (this is starting to sound like a personal ad). If it is in the Discovery Channel, i like it, unless is a show about cooking.

I suscribed to the newsletter just before the forums were opened, I try to read every story and follow almost any kind of topic. You guys are great&#33; I think your answers, and more importantly your questions, fill this forum with the most advanced science discussions. Keep it up&#33;


philip slater
2003-Sep-12, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by andy2020@Aug 12 2003, 03:10 AM
I want humanity to get back into space in a big way but it is going to take a disaster like a meteor strike of sizeable proportions to initiate it (assuming there are enough survivors) It just can&#39;t be done because it is the right thing to do or for national goals or if its necessary to keep apace of any other political system. The big problem is and remains money ....... period......

I would like to participate in that 250 year project by suggesting that at the outset, we set out to EXPLORE THE WHOLE GALAXY and then develop the technology to do just that. That means A.I. , nanotech, robots and power sources that last for 50,000 years if we cannot break the Light Speed Barrier.

Hi andy2020. Great that you worked on Apollo back in Space Age I . A whole lot of people all around the world really appreciate what you all achieved. The first step. Always the big one, whatever comes after, and what comes after hasn&#39;t even begun to arrive yet.

You mention money. Money is a great invention, really useful for helping to quantify and then record and account for exchanges or trades of things perceived as being of value. Very necessary procedures when trading something for something else, although of course there is no need to establish, quantify or record the value of a good, a thing of value, freely given and received.

Money also can sometimes act as a repository, storehouse and preservative of value. Amazing. Someone can actually inherit and utilise the value of the work their grandparents did as young people on a little house in the prairie even though they live in another place and another time. Van Gogh and Gauguin sat down one day and did some work on their paintings. If you find one of these in your attic you can transform a Van Gogh into a monetary number expressing its value that he never knew it had, or at least the local artists&#39; materials shop or the boulangerie or the bar didn&#39;t recognise. You can then take the money round to Burt Rutan and he&#39;ll build you a spaceship, or at least a spaceboat or spaceplane.

But when we start really thinking from first principles about what might be possible for the nascent independent Space Sector to achieve, as you are prepared to do, we cannot confine our attempts to understand the nature of money to the area of expertise of financiers, accountants, investors, sponsors and fundraisers. As someone once said, space is big, mind boglingly big.

Anyone thinking of doing space is going to have to think really big, and start talking to economists. Doing space impinges on the whole economy of a country, as is realised in some countries but not yet in others. Nowhere near, as yet, the economic effects or benefits of war, but a measurable impact.

Next step must be to find someone who understands some rocket science and some economics. The search is on.

Regarding your thoughts about what can be achieved spaceside in the next 250 years or so, the sort of time gap since Newton and Liebnitz and suchlike, that is exactly the way we should go about it, thinking in small manageable time units. Lately I&#39;ve been stuck in a rut trying to understand what might be achieved in just the next twenty-five years in reality, rather than in the imposed (lack of) vision of current conventional (lack of) wisdom. It&#39;s nice to be able to take the little bit longer view of even a quarter of yet another millennium.


2003-Sep-12, 05:31 PM
A few years back I had a dream I somewhat remembered in the morning. The focus of the action was a private space agency or not even an agency, just a big private company doing what NASA does now. As I am a former civil servant, I was, upon waking, taken aback by this, but maybe that&#39;s what the future will bring&#33;

2003-Sep-16, 08:27 PM
I hope the future will bring all kinds of different space agencies, both private and public run. More = better.

Oh, and welcome. :-)

2003-Sep-17, 03:46 PM
hi iam rob from england (leicester) i have been looking at this site for a few days now and as i am about to start a degree in astronomy and plantary sceince the discussions held in these forums are great i have lots to learn and lots to ask so perhaps you educated people out there can help me learn and ill share my opinions

ps great site #the only one i keep coming back to

:lol: :D :D :D

2003-Sep-17, 05:02 PM
Thanks Rob, welcome to the forums&#33;


2003-Sep-17, 08:00 PM
HI My name is nelson,i am married w/three kids one of each.I do not believe any thing i read and only half of what iread .I question averything .I find if i really question the answer either changes or is ignored.I do not have many friends guess why but i tell the truth and i will not treat you like a mushroom, i wiil not leave you in the dark and feed you **. thanks for listening.

2003-Sep-18, 12:35 AM
Hi everyone, my name is Neil Price,I live in Canberra, I am a 30 yo uni drop out (social work) whose preoccupation with my web site holds me together:

My Webpage (http://members.tripod.com/zephyr46/postmoderncogmap/id3.html)

It&#39;s pretty broad.
I was attracted back to space in the late 90&#39;s with the exoplanet discoveries. My interest in space is artistic/aesthetic , as oppoesed to mathmatical, if I ever overcome my fear of maths that will definately change.
My interests are the Galactic Center, Asteroids, the distence to Proxima Centuari , multiwave astronomy and making a map of it all, particularly impressed with Solstation.com (definately worth a visit)
Cheers :)

2003-Sep-18, 06:04 AM
This is a pasted copy of the e-mail I sent the originator of this topic. (I&#39;m still working out the format here) I wrote it as if everone was going to read it... any way I know at least spaceguy will ;)

Seti project is winding down, but they do support a new data crunching program. I believe they explain this on their home page. But do go for it, especially if your from the school where you never turn your computer off and you want to feel like you&#39;re not wasting electricity... ( the argument is that the continued heating and cooling of the motherboard eventually stresses the micro connections and the continuious expansion and contraction breaks them causing the MB to die... plus most problems occur during start up so if it&#39;s runnig LEAVE IT ALONE&#33;&#33;&#33; <=== old school windows reason) Most decently modern comps can run this continiously while you are doing everything else you want...
my user info... yawn
Data units completed: 793
Total computer time: 40782hr 19 min 16.2 sec
that&#39;s = to 4.656 years
Class of Sept 26, 1999

I also responded because I have some friends in oz trel ya
My chat friend writes a nationally syndicated health column for the newspapers... Jules. She&#39;s a gem. look her up in your local paper&#33; Yoose ozzies been fun to know. So&#39;s I could&#39;na resist sayin G&#39;day M8&#33;

2003-Sep-18, 02:26 PM
oi&#33;&#33; thats alot of time...

I&#39;m at like 81 units =) with 5000 hours.... yeeeee...

. ..-={A}=-.. .

2003-Sep-18, 10:08 PM
HI. I&#39;m my name is Kyle, and I&#39;m 15 years old and a freshman in high school. You call call my interest in space "obsessive." I live in Hutchinson, Kansas (in the USA), home of the Cosmosphere&#33;&#33;&#33;
I love to read, especially a good sci-fi book, and I also like to swim and ride my bike.

2003-Oct-31, 10:40 AM
Hullo :) ,
My name is John Fowler (CHOOK, of course) and I live in Coffs Harbour, New South Wales, Australia with my beautiful Spanish wife Rosa.

I worked for the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, Austria, for 16 years and met my wife there. When we started having children we returned to Australia to bring them up as "fair dinkum Aussies".

My wife plays the flute, and I play the trumpet in the city orchestra - which has nothing to do with "space"; but thought I&#39;d tell you anyway.

Like others, I don&#39;t know how we started receiving Frazer&#39;s E-mails, but we soon got hooked and are now regularly contributors to the Forum - where really great discussions take place, sometimes a bit heated, but that is all in the fun. We are all still good friends and I will remember worthy apponents like PARKER, STARRMAN and StarMileBest for some time to come.

I am very grateful to Frazer for the hard work he has done creating and maintaining this site. How has he had the time to father a child?

See you on the forum ...

2003-Nov-01, 09:58 AM
It didn&#39;t occur to me until now that I haven&#39;t introduced myself yet. Here goes...

My name is Kashi, and I am 19 years old and live in Melbourne. I am studying jazz piano at the Victorian College of the Arts (part of the University of Melbourne), although I am probably equally passionate about astronomy and mathematics. Throughout high school I studied maths and sciences (physics, chemistry), and I may study them at tertiary level one day.

Back in 1999 I ran a website reporting extrasolar planet discoveries, which I unfortunately had to give up once study became more demanding. I have also been receiving Fraser&#39;s newsletter since mid 1999. I find being part of this forum is a great way for me to keep up to date with the latest in space exploration and astronomy, and an effective means to exchange all kinds of ideas with like-minded people. As a moderator I am impressed by so far not having had to remove a single post due to inappropriate content&#33; It seems that everyone here is nice&#33; Great job Fraser&#33;


2003-Nov-01, 02:02 PM
i&#39;m 38 years old, in europe.
english is not my mother language.
interested in space weather, the universe and emerging technologies,
of which i confess not knowing too much.

this is one of the best forums of its kind,
quite serious and civilised, congrats

2003-Nov-02, 08:50 AM
I didn&#39;t really introduce myself that much either:)
I&#39;m Denni&#33; I live in Brisbane, Australia and am 15 years old, always had an interest in Astronomy, though not so deeply as i do now.
I&#39;m interested in Science, and doing Physics in senior next year:D
This forum&#39;s great too&#33;

2003-Nov-03, 05:25 AM
Hi everybody&#33; I&#39;m Jimmy Gisclair, a Louisiana cajun still living in southeastern LA.
A musician (Guitar and Bass) professionally, married to a great woman. I&#39;m 50, which is an infant compared to mother earth. I&#39;m absolutely amazed by the night sky. I went to a lecture at a planetarium in New Orleans a few years ago and I was stunned; my brain stretched to about 5 times it&#39;s normal size in about an hour. Anyway, thanks to Frasier for the site and all of you who contribute to the further understanding of All that Is.

2003-Nov-03, 08:58 PM
I introduced myself but I think it was in the wrong topic area. My name is George Clark and I am 18 years old, I live in New Hampshire and I am trying to get my self into University of New Hampshire aka. UNH. The reason I say trying is because I droped out of high school and got my GED :( was a very stupid move on my part but I am changing it. My intrest are astronomy and comsology. I have been reading books on quantum menchanics, general relitivity. My future plans are to become a professor in astronomy or related fields. Other intrest consist of reading and outdoors. Also I would like to say thanks for fraser putting together this forum, you have done a great job.

2003-Nov-12, 07:50 AM
hey all hubble, the new kid on the block loved your new site fraser good for people like me.If any one has news before the newsletter comes back please email me beach_danielw@hotmail.com :mellow: :) :o :unsure:

2003-Nov-12, 11:03 PM
Hi&#33; My names Peter Lee. I&#39;m a 23 year old student nurse from sunny Rotherham in England.

If anyone knows of any space agency that takes on newly qualified nurses i&#39;m all ears&#33;

I&#39;ve learnt so much from this site and am now just getting into the forums so if you see any stupid questions from me its cos i have a million of them to ask and usually think of them when i&#39;m being bored to tears in a lecture about nursing policies or something along those lines and have usually lost the will to live and have forgotten them by the time i get home&#33;

Anyone fancies a chat i&#39;m at van_hoojidonk@hotmail.com.


2003-Nov-15, 11:12 AM
Greetings all,

I am the newest member apparently, although i have been receiving universe today for almost a year now. For some reason i never noticed there was a forum&#33;

My name is Joshua Stacey, i am 20 years old and live in Canberra, Australia.

I am currently studying a Bachelor of Science Degree Triple Majoring in Physics, Theoretical Physics and best of all Astrophysics with aspirations to do Honours and a PhD in Astrophysics and Astronomy.

A very large thankyou to Frasier for all the time and effort he puts into Universe Today, its extremely important that we continue to educate others about science.

Hope to be around for a while.


PS The Casini Jupiter photo is simply fantastic, so much so i had to order myself a large poster of it to put on my wall&#33;

2003-Nov-15, 12:23 PM
Welcome to the forum Josh&#33; Where do you order such posters? I want one&#33;

2003-Nov-15, 12:28 PM
At the top of this page you will see a link entitled "Photos"

Thats where i have ordered 6 20x30" posters from.

Am looking forward to receiving them.


2003-Nov-15, 12:58 PM
To think I&#39;ve been a moderator for months&#33;

2003-Nov-16, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by AusJosh@Nov 15 2003, 11:12 AM
Greetings all,

I am the newest member apparently, although i have been receiving universe today for almost a year now. For some reason i never noticed there was a forum&#33;

My name is Joshua Stacey, i am 20 years old and live in Canberra, Australia.

I am currently studying a Bachelor of Science Degree Triple Majoring in Physics, Theoretical Physics and best of all Astrophysics with aspirations to do Honours and a PhD in Astrophysics and Astronomy.

A very large thankyou to Frasier for all the time and effort he puts into Universe Today, its extremely important that we continue to educate others about science.

Hope to be around for a while.


PS The Casini Jupiter photo is simply fantastic, so much so i had to order myself a large poster of it to put on my wall&#33;
hey josh what do you need to know or be good at to be an astronomer.and your right those posters are cool. :ph34r: :lol: :(i&#39;m new well i&#39;ve been here for 2 monyhs and i too would like to thank fraser for his toil

2003-Nov-16, 04:13 AM
There is a difference between an astronomer and an astrophysicist.

To be an astronomer you need a telescope and enthusiasm...lol.

For the latter, background in mathematics and physics is required followed by many years of studying....argh&#33;

Of course, to be a professional at either of them, some form of university degree is recommended.


2003-Nov-16, 06:11 AM
Josh- I&#39;m interested in becoming an astrphysicist... I still have all that studying ahead of me since I&#39;m only in eleventh grade. My counselor recommended that to me in the NASA Space Camp program a while ago when I told her I wanted to be an astronomer and described it to me. So now I&#39;m taking all the advanced math classes I can, two this year (whoopie&#33;) and IB Physics (it&#39;s a two year course&#33;) fun stuff B)-- I also want toget my doctrine in Physics ;) I have a lot of studying ahead of me... :ph34r:

2003-Nov-16, 07:28 AM
Indeed, there is lots of study ahead, but its going to be so much fun.

I&#39;m only in my second year of university so i havent begun to scrape the surface yet.

You are on the right track doing physics and maths, they will give you good grounding for the heavy stuff (Quantum Theory, General Relativity etc etc).


2003-Nov-16, 09:29 AM
what is an astrphysicist.be fairly brief i&#39;ll be on for 20 minutes

2003-Nov-16, 08:20 PM
If you are in the 11th grade and now taking advanced math, you have a pretty decent start toward your goal. Stay with the math and go as far as you can with it.
It may seem unexciting and unrelated to other courses, but you will find it to be the single most important subject to persue in your field of endeaver.
Who knows, you could become an early 21st century version of Steven Hawkings,
but hopefully minus the Lew Gericts syndrome.

2003-Nov-17, 06:41 AM
hubble, an astrophysicist is a physicist, who studies celestial objects and works out how physics affects them, and tries to uncover more about the object using physics.

2003-Nov-21, 10:50 AM
:D Love being a new addition to the wide open&#33; Enjoy all I see and read&#33; I appreciate great models and positive outlooks&#33; Thanks for having this option for new explorations&#33; The time and effort that is needed to make this a success is very much admired&#33; Truly Awesome&#33; B) - Victoria

2003-Nov-21, 05:36 PM

2003-Nov-22, 12:50 AM
Hi all, I&#39;m Jeff from Adelaide, South Australia. Am a 50 something year old retired telecommunications engineer with a long interest in all things "space". Since retiring have had time to build an 8" f6 Newtonian and am now busy trying to learn how to use it. Very much an amateur but persistence and study will change that&#33;
Fraser, I have been an avid daily reader of Universe Today for about a year now and I think it&#39;s absolutely fantastic. It&#39;s a great gift to all who have an interest in offworld things. I also follow some of the discussion topics with interest - the forums are a terrific way of learning and sharing knowledge and ideas. You and your moderators run it all so well that it&#39;s always a pleasure to read. Thanks heaps.
To all the other readers out there - may I wish you all good seeing and clear skies. :D

2003-Nov-22, 05:58 AM

My name is Cheri and I have been enamored of space science since I was a little girl. I watched every launch from the first mercurys when I was 4 to some of the latest space shuttle launches. I used to live in southern california and have been to the landings at Edwards four times. I have a love for archaeology, as well.
I love this site and the daily e-mails are wonderful. I hope to learn more from it and everyone.

2003-Nov-22, 07:58 AM
Welcome Agro and Cheri13. Please stick around&#33;


Cygnus X-1
2003-Nov-22, 10:07 PM
Hello fellow space-heads, my name is Pete. I&#39;m contemplating the Universe from Long Island, N.Y.&#33; I stumbled upon this site and became instantly hooked. My backround in astronomy is based on facination from a very early age ( I am currently 34 ). Though I&#39;m no pro I belive that I have a grasp on the vastness of interplanetary, interstellar,and intergallactic space. I subscribe to Astronomy mag. I hope I could "hang" with all involved from all different levels of backround, and chime in on future subjects (don&#39;t want to be a "speck" for long&#33;&#33;&#33; ). I am also interested in music ( RUSH is the best rock band in the galaxy &#33; ), wild birds, and pro sports. Thank you Fraser for making available a truly wonderful site

2003-Nov-23, 10:15 PM
Welcome Cygnus X-1, Cheri13, Agro, Victoria, hubble, and all the rest of you new folks.
Hope you enjoy the forums, and the ironic since of humor we have here.

I&#39;m sure we will learn as much from you as you will from us, as we all are learning from each other. Hope to see lots of posting from you folks, and again, glad to see you.

2003-Nov-25, 07:08 AM
Fraser, you have not only provided a wonderful website filled with the latest news, but have provided a valuable space for people to talk about space and astronomy. I have been reading the newsletters for some time now (since May of 2000) and the forums are a wonderful addition.

My name is Brenda Freedman and I live in Philadelphia, PA and work at the Franklin Instiitute Science Museum in the Planetarium. I have been visiting the museum since I was about 9 years of age and from my very first Planetarium show, it sparked an interest in the Universe and now work at a job I love&#33; I get to work with the school children and getting them excited about astronomy is wonderful. The younger children soak up knowledge like a sponge. The best part is when they come ask questions after the show. I am also involved with coordinating some of our programs and web resources. The Fels Planetarium is the second oldest Planetarium in the U.S. (Adler in Chicago is the oldest) and we opened our doors in 1933.

I did see the Sloan Digital Sky Survey - www.sdss.org listed in the links section here and I had the fist opportunity to visit the website this past week. The Digital Sky survey is one of the projects being run on The National Lambdarail www.lambdarail.org. It is being run on a 10-GB ethernet and when you visit the Sloan Digital Sky Survey page yoiu will see how fast the server it is exciting because it will make communication and collaboration between scientists much faster.

I am also interested in artificial intelligence and have been developing an astronomy bot. It is wonderful to be here and I am grateful to Fraser Cain and all his efforts put forth to make this a wonderful place for people interested in astronomy. Once you get "hooked" on Space, there is no turning back&#33;

2003-Nov-25, 09:52 AM

My name is Angel, and I&#39;d like to state here and now that I&#39;m not anti-universe.

2003-Nov-25, 09:55 AM
That&#39;s not what I&#39;ve heard. I think you might have been one of the "Really Hot Chicks" from &#39;Dude, Where&#39;s My Car&#39; ... the ones who wanted to destroy the universe.

2003-Nov-25, 10:59 AM

Anyway, my name is Angel. Growing up in Canadia has given me the unique geographical advantage of a lot of stellar astronomical views. It&#39;s very easy to take the northern lights for granted. Almost.

One of my dearest friends has an almost obsession with the stars, and it renewed my interest in all things above me. I&#39;ve wanted to work with the Hubble for some time now, and I&#39;m amazed at the intelligent conversation to be had within this site.


2003-Nov-25, 08:04 PM
One of my dearest friends has an almost obsession with the stars, Now you&#39;ve done it Graceless. :D
The secret is out. Now you got to stop talking about me like that. :lol:

2003-Nov-27, 07:18 AM
Taking arorae for granted&#33; I haven&#39;t even seen ONE yet&#33; One day.

2003-Nov-27, 09:04 AM
Indeed&#33; Mother nature programmed clouds to head to Melbourne around the time of any important astronomical events.

2003-Dec-12, 05:18 AM
Hello all&#33; I thought I&#39;d introduce myself. I&#39;m new here, so I don&#39;t really know how things work around here (it seems different at every forum I go to&#33;) but I&#39;m sure I&#39;m going to find out :P

I&#39;m eighteen years old and I&#39;m a high school senior from Colorado. Next year I start at CU Boulder in Aerospace engineering. I&#39;ve been an avid space enthusiast since about the sixth grade, and my greatest passion is for humanity to return to the moon and one day go on to Mars.

I post on a couple of other space related message boards, and I found this one on a link from the mars direct website. Maybe you&#39;ll all think I&#39;m nuts (thus the name), and maybe not, it depends from place to place :lol:

Besides space, I am into writing, graphic arts, and swimming. I&#39;m on my school swim team for the second year now, though I&#39;m still not very good, but I&#39;m getting better.

Anyway, there you have it, an introduction of me. Fear the newbie. FEAR IT&#33;&#33;

2003-Dec-16, 01:11 AM
Howdy All,

My name is Steve and I am currently living in Tampa, Fl. serving a (hopefully short) tour in the Army as a recalled reservist at CENTCOM Headquarters. I am originally from Texas.

I stumbled upon this site over a year ago while working for ACS-Defense as a civilian. While waiting for some additional clearance, I had a lot of time to kill each day, and playing around on the internet took up the majority of that time. While I do not have a strong background in math or physics (I work as a satellite imagery analyst), I have always been fascinated by space...it&#39;s vastness, its structured chaos.

This is my first day browsing the boards here and I&#39;m anxious to see what all is here&#33;


2003-Dec-16, 02:19 AM
You do know the decepticons are the Baddies ?

I mean, if you wanted a psychotic goodie you could have gone for Omega Supreme. Talk about a sociopath.

Welcome Decepticons :)


Great website, maybe you could give me some pointers &#33;&#33;&#33;
welcome :)

2003-Dec-16, 03:46 AM
G&#39;day Everyone, how are you all?

My name is Damien, I am a school teacher and an amateur astronomer from Alice Springs, Australia. And what an advantage living in Central Australia, just to go out of town and I&#39;m in a vast area of no light pollution and the endless clear skies of the desert night.

I am also a big fan of the space based comedies, particularly Hitch hikers Guides and Red Dwarf...

Anyways, I look forward to all aspects of this site


2003-Dec-16, 04:12 AM
I used to live in Darwin &#33;

The sky gets very clear up there ( I&#39;m in canberra now)
welcome :)

2003-Dec-16, 04:20 AM
tis a lovely territory tis indeed&#33; It&#39;s a damn shame that Mt. Stromlo was destroyed in the Canberra fires - I was with the National Science Teachers Summer School who visited there 4 days before the centre was destroyed, have some photoes if you are interested.


The Meal
2003-Dec-16, 04:38 PM
Hello fellow universe enthusiasts, my name is Neal and I&#39;ve been following the Universe Today website for about four months now. What is this newsletter everybody keeps mentioning?

I was born in Northern Michigan (where the skies are clear) in a little town on Lake Michigan called Charlevoix. I spent ten years going to college in the Upper Peninsula, getting my MSME from Michigan Tech in Houghton. I did manage to take a couple of years off in that span (for good behavior) and worked out in Boulder, Colorado at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory - National Wind Technology Center doing modal analysis on wind turbines, and also worked in Rochester, Minnesota as a hard drive engineer way back when Western Digital was designing and manufacturing SCSI enterprise drives. I&#39;m a shock and vibration kind of guy.

Now I&#39;m 30, still doing SCSI hard drive stuff, married (to a woman I met on the forums over at www.gonegold.com&#33;) with a wonderful 10-year old daughter who&#39;s as enthusiastic about the evening skies as her papa. We really got into it at the end of this summer; I picked up some 10x50 binos and we&#39;ve spent more time outside than in, it seems. The Geminids were great last weekend&#33; Hopefully someday (soon, but not until well after Santa has given us his fly-by, unfortunately) we can get ourselves into the telescopic age and count the bands spanning Saturn.

We&#39;re out in Longmont, CO (close to both CU&#39;s Fiske Planetarium (http://www.colorado.edu/fiske/) and Berthoud&#39;s Little Thompson Observatory (http://starkids.org/)) with decent skies, but more light pollution than I&#39;m used to. Glad I had 10 years of seeing the Auroras from the UP. :)

When I&#39;m not craning my neck upwards, I enjoy hiking, camping, wheelin&#39; in my Jeep, progressive rock, strategy games, professional hockey, and physics in general.

I&#39;m only a dust spec now, but as much as I love the folks in this community, I&#39;m sure my post count will be much more expansive before it&#39;s all said and done. Thanks for the great site, Fraser, and especially thanks for all the work done by you and your staff.

Now about that newsletter...

~The Meal

2003-Dec-16, 04:41 PM
hear hear&#33;

I joined about 12 hours ago and this is my 20-something posting&#33; it is great here&#33;

2003-Dec-21, 10:15 AM
Must be a new record, guess you have a lot of time, or a lot to say.

2003-Dec-21, 07:48 PM
nah, i just talk and type a lot

2003-Dec-22, 10:25 AM
Right on VanderL ...
Alice (a.k.a. damienpaul) beats the hell out of everybody.
Been with us for 6 days - made 182 posts at 5-minute intervals.
This morning, for example, Alice made posts at 5.20am, 5.36am, 5.43am, 5.48am, 6.57am and 6.16am. Then a bit of a break to the dunny (ha&#33;) then continued on.
Good on ya Alice - keep the fires burning mate&#33; B)

(He&#39;s gettin&#39; married in a few days so he&#39;ll be busy with other things for a while ;) :D )

2003-Dec-23, 07:51 AM
well popping the question in a few days, rooster&#33;

how did you know i was going to the dunny?? = toilet

I guess i really enjoy astronomy and this forum

2003-Dec-24, 01:00 AM
:lol: I&#39;m amazed you find the time to write so much&#33; But welcome to the forums... I&#39;m sure I speak for everyone when I say your contributions are greatly appreciated :)

2003-Dec-24, 01:50 AM
cool, thank you for that&#33;&#33;&#33;

2003-Dec-24, 02:25 AM
Yep&#33; I&#39;m sure we all agree with DippyHippy. :D

Alice - your contributions are greatly appreciated - and we all have fun, and a gain in knowledge in the things we are interested in.

Red Rooster :blink:

2003-Dec-24, 02:28 AM
Red Rooster, its all a team effort

Alice :blink:

2003-Dec-31, 11:15 PM
My name is Jan and I&#39;ve just joined this forum, I&#39;m 57 years old and have always been interested in astronomy but never done anything about it, so, I thought new year new hobby, be gentle with me :lol:

Fly me to the moon

2004-Jan-01, 02:25 AM
Welcome Jan, and belated welcome to damienpaul.
Hope you all enjoy our forums.

2004-Jan-01, 05:22 AM
Greetings. I&#39;m laz - I&#39;m a moderator of a discussion forum (listed in my profile - I&#39;m not going to spam it here) and I&#39;m practically the one in charge of all the science related topics, especially in the field of physics. I&#39;m no know-it-all, but I do what I can to learn. I was bored at work looking for scientific explanations for paranormal sightings and it brought me to a topic here. I looked over the forum and liked what I saw, so I decided to take a ride. I&#39;ve been looking for a good solid forum focused on space for quite some time. I always tend to find the ones where there are nothing but "I know more than you" people, or quite the opposite - babbling idiots who have absolutely no concept of reality. It looks as if this forum has just the right temperature. I haven&#39;t found any idiots or know-it-alls. It seems like a really relaxed environment. My kind of place.

2004-Jan-01, 07:19 AM
Welcome Jan and Iazserus. I took a quick look at the forum you&#39;re moderating, and I can see what you&#39;re up against. :-)

We&#39;ve only really been running for about five months now, and it&#39;s been the best group of people. Couldn&#39;t ask for better.

2004-Jan-01, 07:29 PM
Also a warm welcome to Jan and Iazserus.

You will find that there are some great people contributing to the forum coming from a wide spectrum of backgrounds, as well as the humerous, the very serious and the "there&#39;s one in every group" category.

We laugh, we stirr, we increase our knowledge and, overall, have fun.

My darling wife tells me I&#39;ve become an addict. You might too ... B)

2004-Jan-02, 12:43 AM
Hello newbies - nice to meet you :D

Lazserus, I love your avatar :)

2004-Jan-02, 11:24 PM
Thanks. It&#39;s a little small to tell what it is, but it&#39;s a 3-dimentional model of the big bang. ;)

2004-Jan-03, 06:35 AM
cool, is there a website to the image?

2004-Jan-03, 05:06 PM
I had a larger image I ganked from some website some time back. I honestly don&#39;t remember the site. I was just surfing, came across it, and saved it.

2004-Jan-03, 07:04 PM
I extend my welcome as well.

There are indeed all different kinds of people here including 2 different kinds of know-it-alls.
There are couple who think they know it all, and few more who actually do. :P

But over all it&#39;s a very good forum, with intellegent down to Earth people.
Glad to have you aboard.

2004-Jan-03, 07:42 PM
Thank you, thank you. I like this forum much already. It&#39;s fast paced, which gives me something to do while I&#39;m bored at work. I&#39;ve progressed from a spec of dust to a planet in just a mere 36 hours. :lol:

2004-Jan-04, 12:45 AM
Hey guys~ My name is Sasha and I&#39;m 16 years old. I feel young among you but I do have an old soul.

I was born in Moscow, Russia and moved to Kyoto, Japan and am now living in California *too hot*.

To make things nice n short n peachy for ya, I&#39;m curious about EVERYTHING and it might sound a little dull but I basically try to understand science in every way possible. Am I successful at it? Absolutely not. :) But I can try can&#39;t I? So I am here to learn about the beautiful world of Astronomy and what is has to offer me :D


2004-Jan-08, 12:59 AM
hello all, my name is Paul, this forum looks interesting

2004-Jan-08, 01:06 AM
Welcome to the forum

2004-Jan-08, 04:19 PM
Am I late to introduce myself? My name is Iigo, I was born in Bilbao, Vizcaya, Spain. Im a 20 year old law student. I must admit that my studies have nothing to do with space but I find it fascinating. My english is really bad so I must apologize in advance for any mistake. Very nice web page indeed&#33;

2004-Jan-08, 04:39 PM
Welcome to the forum&#33; Your English is much better than my Spanish. :-)

2004-Jan-08, 09:51 PM
Buenas noches, Biscay :)

I&#39;m slowly learning a little Spanish from my fiancee but I&#39;m afraid it&#39;s extremely limited at the moment&#33; I&#39;m glad you can speak English&#33;

2004-Jan-09, 03:58 PM
Thanks all for your warm welcome&#33; Hey Dippy, thats very nice spanish. Im glad you want to give it a try. Its a useful language after all. Gracias a todos de nuevo.

2004-Jan-10, 07:29 AM
Hello all, I stumbled across this site from a link on an ATM page what a great site... I love the forums.

2004-Jan-10, 01:08 PM
We think so too&#33; Please stick around and enjoy the ride.

2004-Jan-10, 08:02 PM
I guess it&#39;s my turn to let you know about me. I&#39;m the grandma here. Born in Key West, Fla, with the best sky for the stars. Looked through a telescope for the first time at 4and1/2; it was made by a Swiss watchmaker who ground the 6" lenses and smuggled them and his family out of Germany (WWII). I first was told all about the 7 Sisters, then seeing them,and their nebula, through the telescope hooked me for life. I now live in Austin,Tx, again; great skies. I&#39;m a student of everything and master of none. Unless, you count the six kids I raised (3 of my own). OOOOO NOT that I&#39;m their master; they are all great individuals with a thirst for learning that rivals my own. I guess I just meant I did OK as a mom. I took courses in 4 colleges over 15 years, but could never decide on a major. There&#39;s just too much out there I want to know about. My hobbies are music, music, music. My husband has recently started his band career again (dagking.com) and I am their sound tech. Now that the kids are out of the house we can crank the stereo as loud as we like. Fraser has done a wonderful website&#33;&#33; I really love that more questions are asked, than overinflated opinions are voiced. And I thank everyone who is more knowledgable, for not making me feel like a moron for just asking. For those who have issuses with math---- think of it as just another language. One we use everyday, from money to cooking to finding your way around the Web to using the telephone. The equations are like "sentence structure" to make our way in the universe. Embrace it&#33;

2004-Jan-10, 09:33 PM
Quote Planetwatcher:
"There are couple who think they know it all, and few more who actually do."

Don&#39;t talk about Alice (Damienoaul) and Kashi like that&#33; :P

Red Rooster

2004-Jan-10, 10:51 PM
Welcome Bluewolf and anewton - glad to have you with us :)

2004-Jan-10, 11:59 PM
Hi Everybody
My name is Jack Sceva, I&#39;m a 78 year old retired government geologist. My wife and I live near Stanwood, WA about forty miles north of Seattle. I started as a USGS Geologist in 1948, later working for the State of Oregon, then twenty years with EPA and one of it&#39;s ancestral agencies. I&#39;m interested in many things, but geology, the Solar System and the Universe have my greatest interest. I just found this site and enjoy it very much.

2004-Jan-12, 12:25 AM
welcome to the forum Jack&#33; it seems we have similar interests&#33; cool, what did you do for the USGS ?

2004-Jan-12, 01:18 AM
i&#39;m Emma, i&#39;m from Ontario, Canada. i&#39;m 14, i&#39;m in sea cadets and play trumpet and piano and french horn and baritone. i love hockey. im hoping to be in the military when im old enough, hopefully going to the royal military college in kingston.
space exploration is one of my favourite things to research, as well as thinking about how miniscule we are in the universe.

2004-Jan-12, 04:44 AM
Hello People on this forum ^^
My name is Tiny. I am 17 years old. I am not quit understand what actually astronomy is about, and when I attend to college this year I am thinking about going to take astronomy as my major (Beginner><) so I ask one of my friend to give me a site which can communicate with peopel who is trying to learn things about astronomy, then he gives me this one. This is my first time here, and nice to meet you all ^^ peace&#33;

2004-Jan-12, 05:18 AM
Welcoms SaturnsRocker. You are amongst friends here.

I play trumpet too; used to play French Horn but I didn&#39;t like what you do with your right hand up th bell lol :lol: . I&#39;m Principal Trumpet in the Coffs Harbour City Orchestra and my wife plays flute.

What trumpet mouthpiece do you use? I use a Vincent Bach 7C - have tried all sorts of others but have gravitated back to this and am sticking with it.

My horn is a Yamaha James Morrison Special. I did have a Getzen Jupiter but I gave it to my daughter Krystine when she went pro. Beaut horn - very solid.

Are you into classical or jazz? Improvise?

One of the Moderators plays piano - Kashi is his non de plume. He&#39;l no doubt talk to you later.

Anyway - this is all about space, not music.


2004-Jan-12, 05:22 AM
this damienpaul plays the flute also...don&#39;t laugh, but i do, and plan to take up violin sometime soon, welcome to the forum saturnsrocker and tiny

2004-Jan-12, 05:23 AM
Does anybody here like Ocarina? :) >< forget to buy cat food today...

2004-Jan-12, 06:12 AM
Welcome SaturnsRocker and Tiny. It&#39;s nice to see a fellow Canadian. Hard to see us through all the Aussies.

2004-Jan-12, 06:23 AM
I bet they are just Fraser dupes ... just to up the canadan numbers. It&#39;s true isn&#39;t it???

Welcome to you all by the way.

2004-Jan-12, 07:26 AM
I play bass professionally, and guitar, so...let&#39;s make a Universal Band Today&#33;&#33;&#33;

2004-Jan-12, 07:53 AM
I play clarinet, oboe, bells, a little sax and keyboard. But I really excell at sound engineering. I&#39;ve worked with a lot of performing bands (R&R, Blues, Jazz) and I&#39;ve done a little recording engineering, too.

2004-Jan-12, 08:01 AM
I also play guitar and some piano - we really could get a bank going here - I am also from Canada Fraser Whitecourt, AB

2004-Jan-12, 10:58 AM
Quote BlueWolf027:
"we really could get a bank going here."

- was that "bank" or "bonk" lol :P

2004-Jan-12, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Chook@Jan 12 2004, 10:58 AM
Quote BlueWolf027:
"we really could get a bank going here."

- was that "bank" or "bonk" lol :P
Was supposed to be "band" :blink:

No one has ever accused me of being a superstar at typing :D

2004-Jan-12, 08:40 PM
Hello everybody :D I have been a "space nut" my whole life of 4.5 decades, and ran across the newsletter and this forum recently. I have enjoyed the news letter and referred it on to some of my friends. I&#39;n ot sure how active I&#39;ll be here, as I belong to several Geocaching groups, most notably http://www.mi-geocaching.org
But I am looking forward to chatting and getting to know some people here. Thx&#33;

2004-Jan-12, 08:55 PM
I plan to do geocashing with my kids once they&#39;re mobile.

2004-Jan-12, 08:59 PM
I hope that only means that they are still crawling instead of toddling :P Geocaching is a very family friendly hobby.

2004-Jan-12, 09:39 PM
What&#39;s "geocaching"?
(I&#39;ve lived a very protected life)

2004-Jan-12, 09:57 PM
Geocaching is a high tech Treausre Hunt being done in about 180 countries in this world. It involves using a GPS&#39;r (Global Positioning Satellite Reciever), and a website. You can buy a perfectly fine gps&#39;r for aprox &#036;150.00 and up, and the main website we all use is: www.geocaching.com You look for posted "caches" on the website in your locale (and there will be some), then use the gps&#39;r to actually find the cache. When you have found the cche, you sign a logbook, maybe swap trinkets, and then head for the next one. When you get home, you can post your adventure on that cache&#39;s page B)
It is deceptively simple, and can be as fun or as challenging as you want to make it. there are also many state wide, or regional groups that have sprung up to promote the sport. Since I live in MI, I belong www.mi-geocaching.org You can check to see what group may be the nearest to you from the main geocaching site. Happy trails&#33;&#33;

2004-Jan-13, 09:35 AM
Thanks Jamerz3294 about Geocaching.
================================================== ===
Dad Cain - "Fraser - have you been out chasing those girls again&#33;?"
Fraser - "No dad - I was out geocaching, honestly ..." (Wink, wink)
Mum Cain (to herself) - "Just like his dad ..."
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

2004-Jan-13, 10:44 AM
red rooster, what can one say??? Geocaching could be a great hobby&#33;&#33; sheesh it slike the geocaching family robinson&#33;

2004-Jan-13, 07:22 PM
Great book.

2004-Jan-15, 06:28 AM
About the UT bank...bonk...band :lol: I think we should learn Pink Floyd&#39;s "Dark Side of The Moon" first, from beginning to end, O.K?

2004-Jan-17, 09:22 PM
Geocaching, bank, bonk ... :blink:

Can&#39;t ANYBODY be serious around here? <_<

2004-Jan-18, 04:27 AM
no apparantly not rosster, :lol: sounds like this party at Frasers gonna be amazing and not what one expects.

2004-Jan-18, 10:03 AM
As much as a I love the music talk (being a muso myself), you guys should start a conversation about it in the off topic section. This ain&#39;t a chat room.

2004-Jan-18, 12:15 PM
Fair enought Kashi.
It&#39;s Josh-strap&#39;s fault&#33; :D :rolleyes:

2004-Jan-18, 12:22 PM
*flicks the josh-strap at Chooks head* That&#39;s enough out of you or I&#39;ll force you to wear it around on your head all day. sicko.

2004-Jan-18, 08:20 PM

2004-Jan-18, 11:53 PM
Okay, enough&#39;s enough... Kashi&#39;s right, let&#39;s just keep this for new people to introduce themselves please...

2004-Feb-08, 09:59 PM
Ummm, hello there&#33; I am an undergraduate astrophysics major at UC Santa Cruz. I&#39;ve been using this site for news but just recently I discovered these message boards&#33; Cool&#33; So, umm, hi :)

2004-Feb-08, 11:18 PM
Hi LambdaWoman&#33;

Do you know anything about the "Electric Universe"? Yes? Join in ... you&#39;ll get lots of comments.

PS - Do YOU know where your towel is? :D

2004-Feb-09, 03:26 AM
Hello Chook, yes, I do in fact know where my towel is. I have several. Many are in the linen closet and a couple are hanging in the bathroom. :-D

I don&#39;t really know much about the "electric universe" and as soon as I&#39;m done studying for my Thermal Physics midterm I&#39;ll go check it out.

2004-Feb-09, 03:14 PM
Welcome LambdaWoman&#33; Glad you found your way to the message boards.

2004-Feb-09, 05:49 PM
Do you know anything about the "Electric Universe"?
Space is filled with plasma, the fourth state of matter. :lol:

Algenon the mouse
2004-Feb-16, 10:19 PM
Hello&#33; I came here looking for a forum about one of my favorite topics with a lot of intelligent people and found this one&#33;

I am a 6th grade science teacher in seattle with four children. The eldest is currently in Iraq. I am 38 years old, which is young if you are a star.

2004-Feb-16, 11:36 PM
Hi Algenon&#33;

Welcome to UT&#33; I&#39;m glad you think us intelligent :D

My future brother-in-law&#39;s out in Iraq too... I&#39;d like to wish your son a speedy and safe return, as for all the allied troops abroad.


2004-Feb-17, 02:05 PM
Welcome fellow teacher Algenon&#33;

Welcome to the forum, I am absolutely flattered that you see us as intelligent, well we are in our own unique ways.

I would like to hear of the school you teach at, perhaps by email...

2004-Feb-17, 06:05 PM
Hey Everyone&#33;
My name is Rachel and I&#39;m from Massachusetts. I am 14 and when I get older I want to be an astronaut (and hopefully the first one to step on Mars)&#33; I hust wanted to say that I love this forum and the people in it. You all are so cool&#33; :D

2004-Feb-17, 07:42 PM
Hi Algenon the mouse,
God bless your son in Iraq - we all wish him a safe and speedy return.
(Our lad&#39;s been to both Afgh. & Iraq and returned safely - so we know your anxiety. Just trust... :rolleyes: ).

Yeah - you&#39;ll find a bunch of GREAT guys and gals here - contribute and enjoy&#33; :D

2004-Feb-17, 09:59 PM
Wow&#33; 3 complements in just a few postings&#33;&#33;&#33; Intelligent, cool and great - mind you I agree wholeheartedly.

2004-Feb-17, 10:55 PM
Hi galaxygirl - welcome to the forums&#33;

I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll have fun here - I can see you&#39;ve already jumped right in and posted so that&#39;s all good :)

Good luck in your career - if you have any questions about anything, don&#39;t be afraid to ask&#33;

Have fun&#33; :D

2004-Feb-18, 01:54 AM
Thanks for the welecome DippyHippy&#33; Like I said, everyone here is so nice and the forum is so much fun&#33; About being an astronaut... what do you think is the best way to pursue a career like this?

2004-Feb-18, 02:03 AM
Ummmmmmm... :unsure: Dunno *shrug* LOL Study hard&#33; Seriously, start a new topic about it in the Questions & Answers section and I&#39;m sure someone will know or will be able to help you :)

2004-Feb-18, 04:21 PM
Hi, from one Rachael to another B)

2004-Feb-19, 12:48 PM
Hello to both Rachaels, and yes, as ateacher, i can concur with Dips advice - and to always ask questions.

2004-Feb-19, 11:48 PM
Hey guys, sorry I didn&#39;t introduce myself sooner, I just found this thread B)

I&#39;m Keith, 20, currently in Florida serving year 4 of an enlistment with the US Air Force. I work with military avionics for a living.

I suppose I&#39;ll give a bit of background information about myself. I&#39;ve always had a fascination with space, ever since I was quite young. I was never able to invest myself in it at the time, as my father was a preacher, and I wasn&#39;t allowed to read or view anything that wasn&#39;t "god oriented". For good reason too, because when I did, the whole religious thing kinda lost the appeal in the cold, hard light of science.

My goals in life are simple really. I want to obtain a degree in astrophysics and to work to help myself, the world, and future generations understand more about our universe and how and why it works. I want to someday be able to start a foundation to bring astronomy and space-related science to schoolchildren in schools where there isn&#39;t enough funding to have such a program. Overall, I want to leave the world a more understood place than when I was thrown into it.

From what I&#39;ve seen, you guys have been an amicable and helpful lot, and I hope I can contribute something, even if it&#39;s just asking the right questions to get you thinking. :)

2004-Feb-20, 12:06 AM
Welecome to the UT forums devilmech&#33;

2004-Feb-20, 12:09 AM
Hi Keith... welcome to UT&#33;&#33;&#33; Don&#39;t worry, I won&#39;t be singing any Dusty Springfield songs while you&#39;re around :)

2004-Feb-20, 12:16 AM
No clue bout Dusty Springfield, but it sounds ghastly enough :P

2004-Feb-20, 12:19 AM
LOL Okay, maybe it was just a hit in the UK, but she did a song in the 60&#39;s called "Son Of A Preacher Man" - I think it was in Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown actually LOL

Oh dear, jokes aren&#39;t funny when you have to explain them LOL

Alright, back to the topic...

2004-Feb-20, 12:29 AM
lol, all you had to do was mention &#39;Son of a Preacher Man&#39;. Sorry, my lightbulb doesn&#39;t click for pop culture much, seeing as how I wasn&#39;t exposed to any of it till I ran away at 16

2004-Feb-20, 08:52 AM
I want to someday be able to start a foundation to bring astronomy and space-related science to schoolchildren in schools where there isn&#39;t enough funding to have such a program.

Excellent, Devilmech&#33; Image a worldwide education system where kids are brainwashed with the "Cosmos" from Day One&#33;&#33; It would be sure to grab their attention...and then all the other disciplines could be introduced in a way that connects them all up...not separated like they are in schools & universities today. Kids perhaps wouldn&#39;t get so bored with such dry "useless" topics as maths & physics & chemistry. But connect them all up under the umbrella of SPACE and you might capture a young interested audience&#33;?

2004-Feb-20, 09:18 AM
Hi devilmech,
On a more sober note I hope that, one day, you return to what your parents taught you. You&#39;ll find that they aren&#39;t that far off-track.

On a lighter note - give us your best joke on "For the Clowns of the forum" topic.

Welcome again&#33; :D

2004-Feb-20, 10:08 AM
On a more sober note I hope that, one day, you return to what your parents taught you. You&#39;ll find that they aren&#39;t that far off-track.

Sounds like you know something I don&#39;t, Chook? :D Enlighten us, please&#33;

2004-Feb-20, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Faulkner@Feb 20 2004, 08:52 AM
Excellent, Devilmech&#33; Image a worldwide education system where kids are brainwashed with the "Cosmos" from Day One&#33;&#33; It would be sure to grab their attention...and then all the other disciplines could be introduced in a way that connects them all up...not separated like they are in schools & universities today. Kids perhaps wouldn&#39;t get so bored with such dry "useless" topics as maths & physics & chemistry. But connect them all up under the umbrella of SPACE and you might capture a young interested audience&#33;?
Why would they be brainwashed? I don&#39;t see where teaching astronomy in schools could lead to brainwashing. What would they be brainwashed for? I&#39;m not following you :blink:

2004-Feb-20, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Chook@Feb 20 2004, 09:18 AM
Hi devilmech,
On a more sober note I hope that, one day, you return to what your parents taught you. You&#39;ll find that they aren&#39;t that far off-track.

On a lighter note - give us your best joke on "For the Clowns of the forum" topic.

Welcome again&#33; :D
Will do so with the joke thingy, assuming I can think of one that&#39;s not lame.

As for returning to my religious roots, I sincerely doubt that I would ever choose to willingly subjugate myself to the cult of fear and misunderstanding of science that is Christianity.

It is not my wish to offend you, nor to be preached to, so in the interests of good will, I hope we can avoid further discussion of the matter.

2004-Feb-20, 10:39 AM
...maybe "brainwash" was too strong a term... I meant it in a good way&#33;? :blink: I meant, if you&#39;re gonna brainwash ANYTHING into your kids, brainwash ASTRONOMY into &#39;em&#33;&#33;&#33; At least they&#39;ll enjoy it, and they won&#39;t have evil side-effects like all the other silly brainwashing that goes on in those cruel factory-fodder schools we so vehemently insist in incarcerating our "beloved" children in&#33;&#33;&#33; :P

I think it&#39;s healthy for a kid to grow up with his/her head, not in clouds, but in PLANETS & STARS & GALAXIES&#33;

That&#39;s still brainwashing, but its benevolent...and it&#39;s tied to reality, not artificiality.

What we got now is teaching kids how to be schizophrenics: separate all the subjects into distinct, unconnected disciplines...teach them illogical "obedience to the law" (as if it&#39;s some natural god-given thing, not something that (in reality) changes year by year, even day by day)...use either your right hand or left hand (NOT BOTH&#33;) - (what DAMAGE this must do to our brains&#33;&#33;&#33;)...etc etc...stupid stuff we&#39;ve all grown up with...(and is never fully explained/rationalized/justified)...

Ermmm... OK, you asked&#33; heh :P

2004-Feb-20, 10:42 AM
Ah, in that case I understand what you are trying to say. :P

2004-Feb-20, 10:46 AM
Golly, I&#39;m glad SOMEBODY does&#33; :huh:

2004-Feb-20, 08:01 PM
Hi Faukner …
I wrote - "On a more sober note I hope that, one day, you return to what your parents taught you. You&#39;ll find that they aren&#39;t that far off-track."

Devilmech wrote - "It is not my wish to offend you, nor to be preached to, so in the interests of good will, I hope we can avoid further discussion of the matter."

You wrote - "Sounds like you know something I don&#39;t, Chook? Enlighten us, please&#33;"

Wow&#33; That "Stirred up the possum"&#33;

OK Faulkner - I&#39;ll try to explain. First of all I&#39;ve BTDT (been there, done that) - been the child of religious parents and couldn&#39;t get away from home quick enough. Looking back to those days the problem, for me, was the lack of freedom allowed - it was always a matter of being under the subjection of over-domineering parents and their criteria. As devilmech implied - "many religious parents&#39; attitude is negative and judgemental and spirited children can&#39;t wait to "escape".

So we associate "religion" with the past smothering attitude of our home and parents. Very unfortunate because this is NOT what Christianity (dirty word?) is about. REAL Christians are lovable and positive people who teach their children to be the same, who trust their children, who realize that their child has to examine the world for themselves and make all the mistakes we usually make but that mum and dad are always there for them for security and good advice. Also, Faulkner, real Christians will enjoy a beer with their mates, and a joke, admire a pretty girl (hear that weaselbunny) and respect science. Of course the universe began with the BB, and evolution is fact. What is a miracle? - a phenomena for which science has not YET an explanation (but the laws ae there somewhere).

So my point to devilmech was - maybe one day you&#39;ll realize that love for others, tolerance, compassion, positive thinking and doing good in the community (principles taught by your parents) make this world a better place - not to be resented and to sour you for the rest of your life.

Love life :D :D :D

2004-Feb-21, 12:22 AM
So my point to devilmech was - maybe one day you&#39;ll realize that love for others, tolerance, compassion, positive thinking and doing good in the community (principles taught by your parents) make this world a better place - not to be resented and to sour you for the rest of your life.

I&#39;d go as far as saying that these qualities are critical, and no I am not talking from a religious sense, i am talking from a person who lives in a quite tight knit community.

2004-Feb-21, 01:10 AM
Remember the rules. No discussions about religion. I don&#39;t want to have to close the "Introduce yourselves" thread. :-(

2004-Feb-21, 06:27 AM
Hi to all astronomers, space geeks, scientist and all who think and believe that THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE.
Well I&#39;m xientineum...well cool is it. I&#39;m not from USA, I&#39;m from malaysia...a country in south east asia. I&#39;m currently doing my Degree in pure physics and I&#39;m an avid fan of astronomy....my childhood dream.
In my university, I&#39;m currently in a long established astronomy club. We are just a small group of eager people just like to enjoy the universe with our basic equipment of telescopes and bino.

We are actually very interested to doing a very big activity. like big star party and stuffs like that. I&#39;m posting this intro because if anyone have some idea or contacts how can contact other astronomy clubs so that we can learn from the experts.

Will be waiting for reply..thanks,

Life is Universe,

2004-Feb-21, 06:31 AM
Hello xientineum - wow what a great nickname&#33;

Welcome to the UT forum&#33; There are heaps of us amateurs and few brilliant professionals (as well as some certifiable nuts like me).

Most people in here appear to be from either canada or Australia (where I am).

Welcome aboard.

2004-Feb-21, 05:53 PM

I&#39;m gavin, i&#39;m 22 and live in the south west of England. i&#39;m lucky really if i get 1 in 7 clear nights here. never mind. i&#39;m just about to graduate from my MSc (i hope) in mining geology (i would have taken astronomy but my maths isn&#39;t quite up to it). i guess i&#39;ve always been interested in looking down or up...

anyhow, nice to be here.. GS

2004-Feb-21, 06:40 PM
Welcome to the forums gavinstilton and xientineum. Hope you guys have a pleasant stay, and be sure to be active posters :)

2004-Feb-21, 09:37 PM
for administrator...there are good smileys..but plss add waving hand smiley too..look i can&#39;t even stretch my hands to say hello to all of you... :unsure:
ok...leave it ...i will write it here by stretching my arm a little bit... ;)

hello everyone.....[waving hand]

i m drodo baggins (father of frodo baggins in lord of the rings :rolleyes: ). I am from India. i hv just completed my graduation (engg.) and presently am doing mba. i hv been an avid astronomer since my school days. I hv one hand-made 6 inch newtonian telescope, but now am planning to buy a new one. I used to check this site regularly but never entered in forum. I am member of some ametuer astronomers&#39; groups here.

thats all....
this forum looks like very active and I want to be just part of this..

[waving hands]
i m gonna sleep now.....cya all

2004-Feb-21, 10:59 PM
Welcome father of Frodo Baggins&#33; ;) As I&#39;m sure you noticed, there&#39;s a bunch of great people in the forums. Be sure to post often, we&#39;ll be glad to hear from you&#33;

2004-Feb-21, 11:02 PM
And only recently I have seen the LOTR so now i have an appreciation of the Baggins clan&#33; Welcome drodo, and welcome gavin&#33; have fun, ask questions, enjoy

North Star
2004-Feb-22, 02:21 AM
Hello astronomers, astrophysicists, aliens and any one else who&#39;s out there :D
My name is melvin im 33 and im from the uk (where theres lots of cloud :( )
On average i escape the city lights and cloud with my reflector about once a month the other 29 days i just have to settle for perusing a myriad of astronomy and space sites. I usally post on the bbc space forum but this board is less restrictive :)
and seems to have alot more members/posts. &#33; &#33; &#33; GREETINGS &#33; &#33; &#33;

Algenon the mouse
2004-Feb-22, 06:16 AM
sounds a lot like Seattle. We seldom see the sun here, hence the high consumption of coffee. Eastern Washington is the place to be for the stars.

2004-Feb-23, 12:49 AM
Welcome to the forum melvin. Hope you have a nice time here. It&#39;s a great place :)

2004-Feb-23, 04:44 PM
i escape the city lights and cloud with my reflector about once a month the other 29 days

Welcome and all sympathy for you bud, I&#39;m northern UK and the weather is pants for seeing the stars. But it&#39;s looking half clear here today, is it tonight that Venus will be near the moon in the sky? hope so.

Peter Canuck
2004-Feb-23, 05:13 PM
Howdy all,

I&#39;ve been in the group now for about a week and am very impressed with the give and take and the thought that goes into Universe Today.

Fraser, you are to be commended for a superb sight that creates alot of thought and discussion. :)

I am in the wide open Canadian Prairie where the skies are big and we have a gorgeous view of the heavens. Anyone who has never been through a good summer storm on a hot July night to see the lightning and cloud hasn&#39;t lived. Its especially exciting when it happens during a Rider game and 25- thousand people watch it roll south of the city instead of the game. :D

I am a very amatuer observer (I don&#39;t feel right calling myself any kind of astronomer) and get great joy out of catching the sights with my oldest son (age 9).

FYI, a reminder that tonight is the night Venus and the Man in the Moon go side by side in the early evening. Don&#39;t miss it.

2004-Feb-23, 05:23 PM
I am in the wide open Canadian Prairie where the skies are big and we have a gorgeous view of the heavens.

Well colour me green and give me a big stick to beat you with in a jealous rage&#33;

We&#39;re lucky to get a clear night, then you&#39;ve got the problems of city living, i.e. light polution. Makes viewing the stars a little tricky. :( (Cue violins&#33;)

Peter Canuck
2004-Feb-23, 09:02 PM

We would colour your GREEN AND WHITE before you were allowed to beat anyone out in these parts.

Tonite should be pretty nifty, its a beautiful clear day here right now and its supposed to stay clear tonite.
The boy and I will head outside, walk a block to get to the local park, and away from the streetlights and then take a peek at the horizon.

My sympathies for all folks who live in the big cities and don&#39;t get to see it all. I clearly recall walking home from the rink as a kid with my friends and you didn&#39;t even need streetlights, the stars were that bright in our town. Every kid knew where the big dipper and North star were. And we were up on the edge of the grainbelt so we got to see the Northern lights alot in the winter too.

2004-Feb-24, 11:49 AM
That sounds fantastic, I&#39;d love to see the Northern Lights.

When I finally have kids I want to be living in the country, aside from pollution, crime etc, I&#39;d want them to be able to see the stars. It gets a bit depressing sometimes when you can&#39;t&#33;

(Green and white aren&#39;t really my colours, perhaps something in blue? Only messing with you bud, I&#39;m a bit of a girly really&#33; ;) )

Peter Canuck
2004-Feb-25, 02:24 AM
http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/auror...ery_01feb04.htm (http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/aurora/gallery_01feb04.htm)

Thats a link off of spaceweather.com...

SOme of the pictures there are fantastic. WHere I was growing up we would only see the red lights on rare occasions. Blues and silver all the time.
Some of those pics come from Finland which is alot closer to you than Northern Saskatchewan.

2004-Feb-25, 02:31 AM
*waves to Peter Canuck*

Welcome to UT&#33; Hope you have a great time, and welcome to the family

2004-Feb-28, 04:30 AM
This here goes out to devilmech, thx for your input. Extrodinarily awesome :) , along with all the ones&#39; behind UT. :P

2004-Feb-29, 04:12 PM
Hi guys and Victoria, I think that beneath the fact I saw moon lightning (this is not the moon have become clear, but only then you see the globe of the moon in black if I remember well), I also saw northern light. But it was a kind of a high cumulus in red, the green wasn&#39;t there. The only thing that made me conclude it could be northern light was because it was after a series of amazing pictures from "spaceweather". Maybe it was the last day? :huh: In any case after that I bought a color negative. It is still unused because I also missed that picture of the moon and venus while moon lightning. :lol: maybe my first picture will be my mother in her old days or :unsure: who knows Bush and his wife when I do take the plane to Washington one day :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:


2004-Mar-01, 03:26 PM
I know where you&#39;re coming from. I take the pictures, fill up a film after God knows how long, then lose the film before i manage to get it developed&#33;... Oh, if I only had a brain&#33; :blink:

2004-Mar-01, 04:21 PM
Hi, I&#39;m Tom Wray, living in a quiet, dark sky(relatively) spot in Florida. Very nice group you have here, can&#39;t resist chatting with you.

I grew up on SAC bases where my father instructed in: Titan & Atlas, bomber navigation and how to properly care for and release the nukes to destroy the world. We used to borrow the staff telescope, watch the night sky and he would talk about how it would be a real shame to lose everything just because we were wasteful and had a war over oil. That was awhile back.

So, I became interested in energy-efficient housing. Conventional builders were skeptics or just didn&#39;t care. But, the space and Mars people could see the applications. I&#39;ve presented at conferences, got to meet and correspond with Carl Sagan, met some astronauts and had a couple members of the National Commision on Space(late 80&#39;s group) check out my plan, a synopsis of which follows.

This past year I&#39;ve actually built some structures, they work, they are innexpensive. One sizzleing day at the end of last summer, an unpowered house prototype with a dark green roof at 165F surface temperature was cooler inside than outside in the shade. I&#39;m currently heating and cooling it(down to 71F in ac mode) with an HVAC 6 times smaller than a conventional building the same size and volume would need. So far, I&#39;ve incorporated only about 1/2 of the energy saving features I have planned, so it should get better.

Currently working with some NASA/NSF guys to test one out in Antarctica as a Mars analog.

Keep up the good chats&#33;



The purpose of this paper is to describe the design and operation of a business community which will demonstrate cost-effective solutions needed to build and deploy remote research facilities and space habitats. The offices and homes in the community will be built using a modular habitat design integrated with environmental systems to provide energy, food, water and waste treatment. The structures are 100% self-sufficient with regard to utilities. No fossil fuels will be consumed, no pollution will be produced. In addition, the community will have its own internal transportation system based on non-polluting, tracked, electric vehicles.

Duplication of these efforts will provide quality offices and homes for commercial sale or lease, providing the funds necessary for research and emergency relief projects, Antarctic research and space habitats. Tens of thousands of homes & offices could be built before space habitats are constructed, and the resulting economies of scale will reduce the cost of the space programs.

In addition to providing a test bed for Lunar and Mars Base designs, the community design also serves as a full-size prototype of a 500 ft. diameter space station which will provide artificial gravity in the range of 1/10th G to 1/2 G, with zero-G available in the central hub. This makes it possible to test out the effects of Lunar and Mars base concepts in low-Earth orbit. Artificial gravity also simplifies the design of kitchens, showers, toilets, waste treatment systems and medical procedures. Soil mass for plant growth(for food, oxygen & medicines), located at the periphery of the habitation zone, will provide radiation protection and assist in passive thermal control of the space station.

The station design uses a system of stacked, modular components. A single space shuttle cargo bay of these materials will provide a final assembled volume over 250 times larger than the shipping volume, and can take advantage of robots to minimize human EVA.

2004-Mar-01, 06:16 PM
Hey Tom, welcome to the forums. Hope ya have a nice stay here. I&#39;m currently in Florida myself, stationed at an Air Force base here. Seems like you have some pretty interesting things going on with developing new technology, and I wish you the best of luck in it. Don&#39;t hesitate to ask if there&#39;s something a humble avionics technician/astrophysicist can help out with

2004-Mar-01, 07:11 PM
Hello back devilmech, thanks for the welcome.

And, nice quote from Carl. I&#39;m sorry he passed away. Soon after that...Contact was released and my girlfriend and I stayed through the credits, she was crying, my eyes were a little watered up(musta been dust in the air?) and as we were walking out, a woman a few rows behind was crying her head out, turns out she knew him too. He will be missed.

I will keep in touch with you re- the avionics skills. Hopefully, later this year, a few of us here will be putting together a scale version of a mostly solar thermal/electric powered, upper-atmospheric, hyper-ballistic, rigid-skinned, negative-pressured flying thingee. But, sshhhh, don&#39;t tell anyone.


2004-Mar-01, 07:53 PM
Hello, All.

My name is Roscoe. I live in North Bay in Northern Ontario, Canada. I work as a business application programmer by day and moonlight as a clerk in a local photography/telescope store and I am an amateur astronomer and belong to the North Bay Astronomy Club.

I&#39;m 48ish, married and have 3 grown kids.

Oh, and Carl Sagan was one of my heros.

2004-Mar-01, 10:15 PM
Hi blondin and Tom - welcome to UT&#33;&#33;

It&#39;s great to get new contributors and I&#39;m sure I speak for all the moderators when I say we look forward to reading your opinions and hearing about your experiences :)

Tom, you&#39;re a lucky guy, knowing Carl Sagan. To cut a long story short, I&#39;m good friends with Adolf Schaller, who worked on Cosmos with Carl - I came to know him when I wrote a piece for Astronomy magazine about the series. I would have loved to interview Ann Druyan but I wasn&#39;t able to speak to her until it was too late. I spoke to her on the phone 3 years ago. Lovely woman - from all that I know about Carl, had he been alive, it would have been him I&#39;d spoken to.

Anyway, when I was researching it I got in touch with some folks who were quite prominent in astronomy because I wanted to see how Sagan had influenced their careers... one replied with something to the effect that he couldn&#39;t see the fascination "with a man who&#39;s simply known for the phrase &#39;billions and billions&#39;" and I thought, oh man, were you asleep through that series?? LOL

All the same, I count myself lucky to know Adolf :)

2004-Mar-07, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Martha Herrera@Jul 18 2003, 10:26 PM
Hi everybody

My name is Martha Herrera. I&#39;m from Cartago. Colombia.
I&#39;m a Teacher in a Public High School, I teach my classes
using the Fraser&#39;s web site to my students, in two ways,first
as an English lesson second to create some interests to
the astronomy science. But personally I love to search
about the space, mars and a very interesting moon, like Io. :o

Thanks you,Frazer for the Forum and for Universetoday
Hi everybody

My name is zee shaan.
I&#39;m a Teacher .
Hey martha i like ur interests specialy that space and about moon Io B)
hey mail me at kachiyaan@hotmail.com we can be good friends i havel lot of information about space. its realy great
Thanks you,Frazer for the Forum and for Universetoday

2004-Mar-07, 10:39 PM
Hi Zee Shaan

Welcome to the forums&#33; I look forward to reading your posts... have fun&#33;

2004-Mar-08, 08:28 AM
Hello to all you fellow teachers, welcome to the forum&#33;

2004-Mar-08, 07:36 PM
Welcome, and thanks for your kinds words. :-)

2004-Mar-09, 08:31 AM
Fraser, you deserve the kind words&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; i think the post &#39;UT is really good&#39; tells that well&#33;

2004-Mar-13, 01:51 AM
Hello folks,

Stewart Collinge, from England.

An admirer of Frasers pages pre html and an avid amateur astronomer since my childhood. Privileged to have known TV in its best days, watching the Apollo programme :P

The space race is over, and "forum" races do not appeal to me either.

I am looking forward to active and lively contribution / participation in the forum.
Of course, you can always visit me on my home ground in England , at:
http://www.setiuk.com/ and look in the forum.

2004-Mar-13, 11:50 AM
Great name&#33;

Welcome fellow Brit. B)

2004-Mar-13, 03:28 PM
Hello everybody, this is Oliver, a student from the Philippines.

I just discovered this site recently, and I have followed it ever since. The site is just so great&#33; Very informative and interesting... I sometimes wonder why many people don&#39;t know this site yet. :huh:

I look forward to seeing more interesting news in the future, especially in these times, when the findings from Spirit and Opportunity are more than exciting.

Mr. Fraser, thank you for coming up with this site.

Good day to you all.

2004-Mar-14, 12:48 AM
Well, the only way for more people to know about it, is if you tell everyone you know. That&#39;s just good advice that everyone should follow. :-)

Seriously, though, thanks for your kind words Oliver, welcome to the forum.

2004-Mar-29, 11:15 PM
Nice going Fraser,

My name&#39;s Charlie, from Melbourne in Oz (the land down under).

I&#39;ve been getting my regular daily emails for ages now, and I always look forward to my daily dose. I don&#39;t always have time to follow up each article, but even the snippets of information in the emails are informative. They help quench my thirst for space information I&#39;ve had since I was a kid.

I don&#39;t get much time to browse the forums, but when I do I&#39;m suckered right in.

Keep up the good work. :P