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etvisitor7
2004-Apr-22, 03:56 AM
Some scientists have noticed that the Martian moons Phobos and Deimos reflect too much light to be made of earthy substance. Perhaps they are metallic in nature, in other words, of artificial construction! Mars as it exists today appears to be a world destroyed by some major catastrophe, a world that may have once supported life and possibly an alien civilisation thousands or even millions of years ago. Scientists are now discovering evidence of water that dried up aeons ago. Were the moons built by ancient Martian inhabitants in an attempt to readjust the planet's unstable condition caused by the catastrophe?
Ancient poets on Earth knew of these 2 moons before their discovery! And ancient astrological works mention them. How did people of those times know such things? Jonathan Swift in "Gulliver's Travels", year 1726, wrote that Mars had 2 satellites, and his complete description of them was most accurate. They were actually discovered as late as 1877 by Asaph Hall of the Naval Observatory in Washington. How did Swift know that Mars had 2 moons? How did he accurately guess their size and their short revolutions? The great philosopher and writer of "The Odyssey"and "The Iliad", Homer, knew about the "two steeds of Mars". The great philosopher Voltaire told of these moons in the story of Micromegas more than 100 years before their discovery! The name Phobos means "Fear", and Deimos means "Panic", which is very appropriate when we consider the possibility of an ancient catastrophe destroying all life on Mars.

galaxygirl
2004-Apr-23, 02:05 PM
Those are some really interesting observations, but I dont think Phobos and Deimos we built by ailens because if there was intelligent life on Mars, we'd probably know about it by now. The reason they might reflect so much light is because they could be M-type (metallic) asteroids that were caught into an orbit around Mars.

imported_Swift
2004-May-04, 03:52 AM
Woo..... to much reading I kinda feel like I'm in school and that's not good! :blink:

StarLab
2004-May-04, 04:09 PM
Let's not forget Clarke's 2001: A Space Odyssey. Humans had to dig under the moon to find that 1:4:9 thing. Then, in the book, it broadcast on some frequency to the mother 1:4:9 which did whatever...
I don't know if Phobos and Deimos are the Alien leftovers, but they sure exist somewhere in the Solar System.

VanderL
2004-May-04, 05:17 PM
Hi Etvisitor7,

Thanks for this information, fascinating stuff, do you have any references on Phobos and Deimos being known in ancient times?

Cheers.

zrice03
2004-May-15, 12:30 AM
Well, both Voltare and Swift guessed that there were two martian moons, but it was numerical luck, not paranormal.

At the time, the number of moons in the solar system were known to be so:
Mercury: 0
Venus: 0
Earth: 1
Mars: ?
Jupiter: 4
Saturn: 5

It seemed logical to give Mars two moons.

That Swift gave almost the correct orbital parameters for both is just blind luck (he was off by around seven thousand kilometers on both of them, though).

Here (http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/Swift.html)'s a site giving the most likely reason for Swift's "clairvoyance".

Magenta
2004-May-15, 07:57 PM
Ken Croswell's new book Magnificent Mars (http://KenCroswell.com) devotes an entire chapter to the moons of Mars, including rainbow-colored topographic maps of Phobos and Deimos.

It was actually Kepler who first assigned two moons to Mars. "Swift probably included the prediction in Gulliver's Travels to mock Kepler," Croswell writes on page 177 of Magnificent Mars. Among other things, Gulliver's Travels pokes fun at scientists and mathematicians, and--let's face it--Kepler's reasoning was pretty ridiculous!