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Superstring
2002-Oct-19, 01:28 PM
This is my first post at the BABB. I have been lurking for a few months, but have now joined. I enjoy reading and discussing all astronomy-related topics, but I tend to focus mostly on planetary science. Anyways, I look forward to being apart of this board.





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Espritch
2002-Oct-19, 01:48 PM
Another Tar Heel. Excellent! Soon we will have sufficient numbers to take over the board. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Russ
2002-Oct-19, 03:28 PM
I don't mean to string you along but think it's super your here. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Welcome aboard. I hope the PUNishment is not too much to bear. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

David Hall
2002-Oct-19, 04:24 PM
Yes, you have to be careful when you read these threads. They can twist you right out of alignment. I hope you have the fiber to handle it. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Welcome aboard.

xriso
2002-Oct-19, 06:09 PM
Some of the threads here are simply old yarns that have been strung out for discussion yet again. Other times, it's simply a troll throwing out his line to bait unwary posters into a furious reply, so I would suggest that you knot try to tackle these ones. Occasionally it's a prankster who's just ribbon you.

Superstring
2002-Oct-19, 07:03 PM
LOL thanks for the welcome. I chose the screenname "Superstring" after the hypothetical small particles within the universe, as I'm sure you all know hehe. Thanks again. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif

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heliopause
2002-Oct-20, 12:47 AM
You Tar Heels wipe your feet on the mat before you even think of walking on my new rug!!!!

Superstring
2002-Oct-20, 01:05 AM
On 2002-10-19 20:47, heliopause wrote:
You Tar Heels wipe your feet on the mat before you even think of walking on my new rug!!!!



My, my aren't we feeling selfish today. Oh well, will do. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Kaptain K
2002-Oct-20, 01:35 PM
On 2002-10-19 20:47, heliopause wrote:
You Tar Heels wipe your feet on the mat before you even think of walking on my new rug!!!!


Yeah!! Keep your feet off his toupee! /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

PS Count the Texans before your attempted coup.

Superstring
2002-Oct-20, 04:59 PM
On 2002-10-20 09:35, Kaptain K wrote:
Yeah!! Keep your feet off his toupee! /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

PS Count the Texans before your attempted coup.



Hey, my feet aren't THAT tarry. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

GrapesOfWrath
2002-Oct-20, 05:04 PM
On 2002-10-20 09:35, Kaptain K wrote:
Count the Texans before your attempted coup.
OK, there seems to be 26 of them, if you count Jetmech0417. That's a lot less than the Brits--but regardless, the seven tarheels should be able to handle both. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Espritch
2002-Oct-21, 02:20 AM
7 to 26? Well, I guess we'll all just have to tie one hand behind our backs to give the Texans a fair shot. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

ToSeek
2002-Oct-21, 02:23 AM
On 2002-10-20 13:04, GrapesOfWrath wrote:


On 2002-10-20 09:35, Kaptain K wrote:
Count the Texans before your attempted coup.
OK, there seems to be 26 of them, if you count Jetmech0417. That's a lot less than the Brits--but regardless, the seven tarheels should be able to handle both. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif


You can count me as #8 - I may live in Maryland, but I was born in Charlotte. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

GrapesOfWrath
2002-Oct-21, 09:49 AM
Uh-oh, it's quiet, too quiet.

David Hall
2002-Oct-21, 12:28 PM
Well, count me as number 27, then. I'm from Big D. myself. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Doodler
2002-Oct-21, 02:05 PM
Just keep your phasers set to pun and they'll never stand a chance *ducks under cover in Maryland*

nebularain
2002-Oct-21, 06:25 PM
On 2002-10-21 10:05, Doodler wrote:
*ducks under cover in Maryland*

A typical turtle (http://umterps.ocsn.com/) ! /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif


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"But I can see the Covenant colors [that] the sun and the rain have woven against the blue of the sky"
- Rich Mullins, The Howling

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Russ
2002-Oct-21, 06:54 PM
On 2002-10-21 08:28, David Hall wrote:
Well, count me as number 27, then. I'm from Big D. myself. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif



Then I'm 28, as I hail from the greater Marfa - Alpine metropolitan area. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif One of the suburbs, Ft. Davis, has the McDonald Observeatory http://www.as.utexas.edu/mcdonald/het/het.html with the Hobby-Ebberly Telescope (HET). One of the new generation of giants. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Donnie B.
2002-Oct-21, 06:55 PM
We Yankees just love to sit back and watch you Rebs fighting amongst yourselves... /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Russ
2002-Oct-21, 07:05 PM
On 2002-10-21 14:55, Donnie B. wrote:
We Yankees just love to sit back and watch you Rebs fighting amongst yourselves... /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

It'd take somebody from Taxachussetts to miss the point like that. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Zathras
2002-Oct-21, 07:20 PM
On 2002-10-21 14:54, Russ wrote:


On 2002-10-21 08:28, David Hall wrote:
Well, count me as number 27, then. I'm from Big D. myself. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif



Then I'm 28, as I hail from the greater Marfa - Alpine metropolitan area. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif One of the suburbs, Ft. Davis, has the McDonald Observeatory http://www.as.utexas.edu/mcdonald/het/het.html with the Hobby-Ebberly Telescope (HET). One of the new generation of giants. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif



Wow. Marfa is an exotic locale to hale from (I'm also from Dallas). Have there been any discussion of the Marfa lights on this board?

Russ
2002-Oct-21, 08:10 PM
Wow. Marfa is an exotic locale to hale from (I'm also from Dallas). Have there been any discussion of the Marfa lights on this board?

Hey Z: No there has not.

What Z is talking about is this: http://www.marfalights.com/ which is about as yellow press, sensationalist as I have seen. "The Marf Ghost Lights" really are interesting in the right hands. I just couldn't find a site that told you more, quickly.

Even the scientists at the McDonald Observatory outside of Ft. Davis (near by) have looked into the cause of these lights. To the best of my knowledge they found out nothing about them.

I've seen them, and while I don't have a clue what they are, I can say they are not the following: ball lightening, static electricity, car headlights reflected through atmospheric conditions, stars through..ibid, town/city lights through...ibid. I've seen all of those and TMGL don't look like any of them. "IF" you can catch them them out, they put on a pretty good show. When they are out, they are out rain or clear, any time of the year. They did leave me with a kind of creapy feeling, I guess because I couldn't figure out what they are.

nebularain
2002-Oct-21, 08:25 PM
I've seen them, too! They are pretty cool. Little lights just pop up and vanish all over the place out in the distance. (Someone suggested there were atually little trolls or gnomes, or something along those lines, with lanterns that popped out of holes in the ground and disappeared back into them.)

Espritch
2002-Oct-22, 02:37 AM
Hmmm. These Marfa lights sound a lot like the Brown Mountain Lights here in North Carolina. A quick Google search turns up a number of links about these. Some are pretty hokey. The following is slightly less so.

http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Rodeo/4941/brownmtnlite.html

Russ
2002-Oct-22, 06:51 PM
On 2002-10-21 22:37, Espritch wrote:
Hmmm. These Marfa lights sound a lot like the Brown Mountain Lights here in North Carolina. A quick Google search turns up a number of links about these. Some are pretty hokey. The following is slightly less so.

http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Rodeo/4941/brownmtnlite.html

They do sound similar but I have never heard of a Marfa light ever coming near anyone. There has been much argument over whether they are close and small or far and large but no one whom I know has every been touched by one.

Argos
2002-Oct-22, 08:40 PM
What is a Tar Heel? Has it to do with tobacco plantation? I'm curious./phpBB/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Is it a nick for North Carolina people?]

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Superstring
2002-Oct-22, 08:57 PM
On 2002-10-22 16:40, Argos wrote:
What is a Tar Heel? Has it to do with tobacco plantation? I'm curious./phpBB/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Is it a nick for North Carolina people?]



LOL "Tar Heel State" is a nickname for NC. Thus, I'm considered a tar heel. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Argos
2002-Oct-22, 09:19 PM
On 2002-10-22 16:57, Superstring wrote:

LOL "Tar Heel State" is a nickname for NC. Thus, I'm considered a tar heel. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Thanks, Superstring.

So, the people of NC immerse their feet in tar. Still have one more question. The tar the nick refers to, is it that of petroleum or tobacco's? Thanks in advance.

I explain: in my native language the term corresponding to "tar" relates both to petroleum and tobacco derivatives.

(Excuse me for being somewhat out of topic. I have a genuine interest for cultural data)


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GrapesOfWrath
2002-Oct-22, 09:57 PM
On 2002-10-22 17:19, Argos wrote:
I explain: in my native language the term corresponding to "tar" relates both to petroleum and tobacco derivatives.
It does in our language (American English) too. But the tar in Tarheel refers to petroleum tar.

Espritch
2002-Oct-23, 02:24 AM
According to one story, North Carolinians got the nickname tar heels during a battle in the American Revolutionary War. A regiment from the Old North State held its ground while regiments from other states broke and ran, prompting a commanding officer to remark that “Those Carolina boys stand and fight like they have tar on there heels.” This story is probably apocryphal.

I suspect the real origin of the name is related to the production of pine tar (extracted from pine trees by burning the wood slowly in tar kilns). North Carolina produced a lot of tar this way up through the first half of the twentieth century. I think the industry was eventually supplanted by petroleum based tar.

GrapesOfWrath
2002-Oct-23, 05:05 AM
On 2002-10-22 22:24, Espritch wrote:
I suspect the real origin of the name is related to the production of pine tar (extracted from pine trees by burning the wood slowly in tar kilns). North Carolina produced a lot of tar this way up through the first half of the twentieth century.
That's almost surely right. When I answered "petroleum", I was just differentiating between that and tobacco tar. As to how it got applied to the heels of the feet, there are a lot of different versions (http://www.umt.edu/polsci/greene/psc364statenicknames.htm).

Argos
2002-Oct-23, 12:24 PM
I thank you fellow Tar Heels for the explanations. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

We learn in school about the 13 original American colonies. I thought that NC was a tobacco state like Virginia.

I think that this kind of regional designations and expressions are a human universal pattern.

Here in Brazil every state has its nickname too (we have "green bellies", "red feet", etc.), each one of them having to do with a traditional story, linked to colonization and/or independence and/or economic cycles of the past.

Cool./phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

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Argos
2002-Oct-23, 01:36 PM
Drifting way off topic but...

I've read Arthur Schlesinger's "Land Of The Free", a classic book on American history (which I keep with care - a 1951 edition). I would say it's like a "bible". Almost everything I know about the evolution of the USA as a nation comes from there. It was an important book to me. I think it's time to review it.

BTW are there still "carpetbags" in America? /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif





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Russ
2002-Oct-23, 07:56 PM
On 2002-10-23 09:36, Argos wrote:
Drifting way off topic but...
BTW are there still "carpetbags" in America? /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif


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Yes there are. There are still carpetbaggers and all that goes with them as well. I guess no place is perfect. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_frown.gif