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Fraser
2004-Sep-24, 09:21 PM
SUMMARY: The da Vinci Project, a Canadian team of amateur rocket scientists, has pushed back the launch date of its Wildfire rocket. The Wildfire was originally scheduled to launch on October 2, which would put it only a few days after Scaled Composite's SpaceShipOne makes its launch attempt to win the $10 million X-Prize. The delay was required because the team was still waiting on some key components that they needed to install in the suborbital rocket. It's not known when they'll make their launch attempt.

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StarLab
2004-Sep-24, 09:22 PM
Well, it's nice to know the Canadians are at least trying! :P :D :rolleyes:

Duane
2004-Sep-24, 10:18 PM
Dang! I had taken the two days before and one after off to attend the launch site :(

Tom2Mars
2004-Sep-25, 04:09 AM
Since they were shooting for after the Spaceship One date, they may not have beaten Burt anyway. This way, when they do get their eqiupment, they might be able to take their time, and not rush things. Usually, bad things happen when people rush.

Spacemad
2004-Sep-25, 09:04 AM
Ive been following with great interest the different attempts being made by the various teams competing in the X-Prize. So it came as a bit of a disappointment to find out that the Da Vinci Project was having to put off its attempt on the prize money - but as Tom says
Usually, bad things happen when people rush.

I wish them the very best of luck with their attempt on getting up to space & hope they get things sorted shortly. :)

todd
2004-Sep-25, 05:58 PM
I am glad Da Vinci have delayed their attempt. Hopefully SS1 will win the prize before Da Vinci are ready to launch. That way Brian Feeney can legitimately step back and say there is no rush to launch straight away and they can do some real testing on their vehicle with remote control or dummies etc on board. We all know what happened to Stevie Austin "Stevie" the rubicon 1 test .. bang !!!

Stevie Austin (http://www.nighttrainfilms.net/StevieAustinProject/)

I fear that this is what will happen to Brian Feeney as well if he rushes an launch attempt ...

Burt has taken the right approach .. test test test .... even without the $20m he would still have taken this approach, not just put everything together then loaded it up with a real human and attempted to launch it

For some reason the Da Vinci guys think they can do it first attempt ... in my opinion it will be more luck than good engineering if it comes off. My engineering background tells me that it wont and that he will probably die in the attempt.

Lets hope that sense prevails and Da Vinci aim to be an ongoing part of the space industry and build a safe & reliable vehicle

My opinion is that if they attempt a launch before doing proper test flights that 50% chance that the balloon and launch vehicle wont get to 80,000 ft
35% chance that if they do get go for launch the vehicle wont clear the balloon
14% chance that if they do clear the balloon the vehicle will perform more than half the burn duration and hence not reach 100km
1% chance all will go as planned

I put Brians chance of stepping alive back out of the vehicle if they actually do fire the engines at less than 25%.

just my 2c . flame at will

-todd-

antoniseb
2004-Sep-25, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by todd@Sep 25 2004, 05:58 PM
just my 2c . flame at will
I'd surprised to see any flaming, but if there is any, the moderators will edit it.

Most of the people on the forum value safety, and those for whom pressing ahead takes priority over safety recognize that their's is not the only legitamite position. Thanks for the post, it put a useful spin on the Da Vinci article.

rynolds
2004-Sep-28, 12:30 PM
Glad to hear that they're trying, :D but i guess rutlan would have already claimed the prize by then.

however even if all does go well with rutlans mission (not like he needs it anymore what with this new signing of his craft to be used in branson space tourism effort) im all for teams to remain trying to get their project into space because in the end it all helps.
;)

rynolds
2004-Sep-28, 12:36 PM
Also just one last note
i find all this x prize cobblers really rather fasinating because if you step back and think about it, these guys trying to build space crafts are near enough just normal members of the public and doing a fine job. :)

now think about a major worldwide company like BA- i bet despite all of their avionic knowledge, they wouldn't even be able to touch these guys.


final thought: NASA finds it hard enough

Dr. James
2004-Sep-30, 02:13 AM
Greetings from Rubicon ICU/R,

I noticed the Stevie Austin Project was noted in your forum. Thank you for your interest. I felt your forum users may enjoy this update about Stevie. Best regards, Dr. James from Rubicon ICU/R.

STEVIE AUSTIN PROJECT UPDATE:

Stevie returned to us briefly today, looking very well rested and ready for her next launch. She brought along the core members of the STC Team, for an in-person meeting with Dr. James and a tour of the Rubicon ICU/R Facility.

Stevie was very pleased to finally introduce Dr. James and the ICU/R Staff to STC Founders Phil Storm and Eric Meier, as well as STC Mission Specialists Martin Dillon and Greg Mika. Though they had all spoken many times by phone during Stevie's Recovery, they had not yet had the chance to meet face to face. Everyone enjoyed the day.

Dr. James examined Stevie one last time to ensure that she is fully prepared for the Rubicon II Mission, which is currently scheduled for launch on the weekend of October 9 & 10, 2004. Stevie is more than ready. This important Mission will blast Stevie and the Rubicon II Rocket to an altitude of approximately 4 miles high - which will fully test all vital rocket systems, including launch, flight, and a very exciting Apollo-style (http://www.nighttrainfilms.net/StevieAustinProject/Images/Apollo.jpg) ocean splash down by parachute (where Stevie and the Rubicon Space Capsule will be recovered from the ocean by boat.) Dr. James has agreed to attend the launch as Mission Medical Specialist to make sure Stevie stays in top shape throughout her Mission.

The Stevie Austin Project Web Site (http://www.nighttrainfilms.net/StevieAustinProject/) has been updated with new photos and text all about the recent STC Team Visit to Rubicon ICU/R. Please stop by for a web-visit yourself.

STAY TUNED IN OCTOBER FOR EPISODE SIX!

Episode Six, of the ongoing Stevie Austin Project Movie Series, is currently in the pre-production stage and will be filmed in October. Episode Six, the biggest and most exciting Episode yet, will include complete documentary footage of the Rubicon II Launch in October. There will be action-packed footage of the Launch, the Flight, the Splash Down and the Capsule Recovery from the ocean. There will also be actual footage of Stevie filmed from inside the Rubicon II Space Capsule during the entire Mission, Launch and Recovery! You will be able to "be right there" beside Stevie as she blasts off into the sky, rockets up to four miles high, then parachutes back to earth for a Splash Down in the Pacific! Episode Six will also include informative and entertaining interviews with the entire STC Team before, during and after the Rubicon II Mission.

Thanks to all for your continued interest in Stevie's story. It has been great fun to keep everyone up to date with her adventures and we'll continue to bring you full details as the Rubicon II Mission unfolds.

We'll see you at Launch Time!

Best regards,

Dr. James
Rubicon ICU/R
The Stevie Austin Project

Duane
2004-Oct-02, 12:21 AM
God-speed to you Dr James and the Rubicon Project! :)

damienpaul
2004-Oct-02, 01:17 AM
go get 'em Dr. J!

Spacemad
2004-Oct-02, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by todd@Sep 25 2004, 05:58 PM
I am glad Da Vinci have delayed their attempt. Hopefully SS1 will win the prize before Da Vinci are ready to launch. That way Brian Feeney can legitimately step back and say there is no rush to launch straight away and they can do some real testing on their vehicle with remote control or dummies etc on board. We all know what happened to Stevie Austin "Stevie" the rubicon 1 test .. bang !!!

Stevie Austin (http://www.nighttrainfilms.net/StevieAustinProject/)

I fear that this is what will happen to Brian Feeney as well if he rushes an launch attempt ...


Lets hope that sense prevails and Da Vinci aim to be an ongoing part of the space industry and build a safe & reliable vehicle

just my 2c . flame at will

-todd-


We all know what happened to Stevie Austin "Stevie" the rubicon 1 test .. bang !!!
I didn't know anything about Stevie till I read your post & followed the link to the website!

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments about rushing ahead with a flight before everything has been throughly tested - better safe than sorry - as the old adage goes! :P