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2005-Nov-13, 09:55 AM
2,750 miles across the Atlantic @ 'about' 2 knots in 1620...
partial transcription (http://members.aol.com/calebj/bradford_journal.html)

2005-Nov-13, 04:35 PM
Thanks, sarongsong. This thread helped me do something I've been wanting to do for a long time... figure out the connection to New Amsterdam (now New York) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Amsterdam). According to the link, they weren't Pilgrim's, though. I get so confused with history sometimes. :doh:

Halcyon Dayz
2005-Nov-13, 06:39 PM
New Amsterdam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Amsterdam) was established by the Dutch East India Company in 1624,
as a military stronghold to protect the local fur trade.

What I find mildly amusing about the Pilgrims, is that they fled
from England, were they were persecuted, to the United Republic,
where they were NOT persecuted.
And they didn't like that either.
There is no pleasing some people.

Edit: spelling

2005-Nov-13, 06:50 PM
Right, then they got to Massacheusetts where they persecuted every other religious group and hanged a bunch of innocent women in the Salem Witch Trials.

To quote Robin Williams:
"The Puritans, our ancestors. A group of people so stuck-up the British kicked them out."

2005-Nov-14, 02:39 PM
@ 2 knots per hour

Is it a measure of acceleration? [just kidding] :)

2005-Nov-14, 08:45 PM
Is it a measure of acceleration? [just kidding] :)

Sarong, just to clairify Argos' point. Your use of "2 knots per hour" was gramatically incorrect. A "knot" is a measure of speed per hour. So, you said, in effect. "2 knots per hour per hour."

Same as "ATM machine" or PIN number."

2005-Nov-14, 09:22 PM
oooh, picking nits!

Can I just add, then, that a knot is approximately equal to 1.15 miles per hour?


Bah. Ancestors. The only thing worthwhile ancestors ever did was produce me.

2005-Nov-14, 11:33 PM
Dang---and just when I thought I knew it all!---thanks, correction made.
Furthermore: (http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/sea.htm)
"...the international knot is very slightly less than the UK knot..."

2005-Nov-14, 11:39 PM
and all are inferior to the bowline knot